I wanted to thank everyone for thier help, and suggestions, and let you all know that I solved the Smith line. Roger Smith is the son of Isreal Smith and Esther Andrews. So I can breathe alittle now. Now it is on to solving who, William Terrel, (Terrill) was that married Esther Smith, so far I have not been able to locate a marriage record on them. Esther Smith was from New Haven, CT. I have been told that some of the records were lost to a fire.. Clues like family names have not helped, in solving William Terrel mystery, as I found my great great grandfather did not have any Williams in his family. He had names like Le Grand Terrel, his name was James A. Terrel, and my Great Grandfather was also James A., there was Garland B. , Edward , Jane B., Lillie, Delores (first born) in 1853, and a Ida M. It is not to say that the names are not in his wife's family another hard name to research. I do find lots of these names in the Georgia, NC, and Virgina area, however Esther Smith was born in 1802 CT. Notes from the NARA also state William Terrel as being born in CT. Somehow I do not think so. The only possible match for Esther is William Terrill, born in 1781, son of James Terrill, and Sarah Bradshaw. I have not ruled this out, but I have not found a Marriage for this William either. So that is my new puzzle, and other ideas. I'm going to see if I can use the Barbour Collection, if I can find it at the LDS center. Thanks again for all who helped. Wanda Clowater