In a message dated 7/10/2004 12:00:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Roger: hey cousin :) Yes, cousins for sure! Steve, this has been both a very interesting line for me trying to prove Stephen's parentage. My citation for the descent of Stephen Orcutt from Daniel Orcutt was a genealogy of Florence Julia Brown (which cited Stafford VR's, though didn't give a book or page). Steve, the Stafford, CT VR for Stephen Orcutt as s/o Calem and Mehitabel Orcutt is Volume A, Page 6. Do you have a copy of the Florence Julia Brown genealogy that could be sent to me as an attachment? Ellery Bicknell Crane gives Stephen's birth date as 19-May-1757, one week before the Stephen son of Caleb that you cited...could there be two? Crane's "Genealogical and Personal Memoirs of Worchester County Vol. 1 gives Stephen Orcutt's birth as May 13, 1757. The Commemorative Biographical Record of Tolland and Windham Counties Connecticut (1903) gives Stephen's birth as May 19, 1757. Bible and Family Records, Vol. 2, Compiled by Lucius B. Barbour (1931) as gives the May 19, 1757 birth date for Stephen. This record (at the CT State Library) was a notebook kept by Stephen Orcutt & Mary (Molly) Orcutt's "grand-daughter Aurelia Frances (Orcutt) Maine, of data collected principally by her sister, Maria Celenda (Orcutt) Fletcher." So I really don't know the reliability of any of those works. Maybe there were two Stephen Orcutts born in May 1757 in Stafford, CT -- if so I do not have primary proof of a record as Daniel & Lydia Orcutt being Stephen's parents. The vital record that Florence Julia Brown used would be key. Having said that, however, if your first goal is a Mayflower descent, you can trace Molly Washburn back through her father Solomon, his father Solomon and beyond to Experience Mitchell who arrived on the Mayflower. Yes, I do have two proven line already through Mary (Molly) Washburn as you noted to Francis Cooke and to James Chilton. So I'm really more concerned with just getting Stephen's parentage proven regardless of who the parents are. This, of course, means you have goaded me into checking out Stephen's Pension Records at the Archives to see if the records mention his parents (if you have seen the records, please let me know if I am following a dead end). If I find anything, I wil let you know. I do not have the Pension Records, so if you have that it could be very important. Yes, please let me know what you find. I have some DAR records that state Daniel & Lydia as Stephen parents, but again, I don't know how reliable the DAR records are from that time period. Roger Steve