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    1. Re: [GenConnecticut-L] CT 1790-1860 census
    2. Marion G Snedecor
    3. Dear Dorothy, I have the same problem of needing these same census indices for my ancestors: FERRIS, MOSHER, VOSS families in southern CT near to NYC in or around Greenwich, Fairfield County. Could you please tell me who I should be writing to or how to see these indices. Thank you in advance for any help that you may offer me. Marion Snedecor On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:25:44 EDT Boopatoo@aol.com writes: > Hello: I too am interested in the above census to locate my CT. >ancestors, >ROOT: CRAMER: BRONSON: BOOTH(E) family. > > Will you kindly send me any information that you have available. > > TYIA< Dorothy-Blakeley NY USA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ><< > The CT 1790 - 1860 census indices are online at the FTM > genealogylibrary.com site. Will send list under separate cover. > >> > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    04/23/1999 02:14:55
    1. [GenConnecticut-L] BRONSON
    2. Hi, I am replying to a message on GENCT-L. I have an Electa Bronson born in Farmington CT no date of birth- died August 1863 married to Geroge Hubbard that I am doing research on. Is this person in your family? I am sorry I do not have information to share as I am just beginning to do the research. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Carolyn Ederheimer

    04/23/1999 01:35:26
    1. Re: [GenConnecticut-L] Daniel BOTTUM/BOTTAM of Woodstock, CT
    2. Robert L. Ward
    3. At 07:22 PM 4/22/99 -0700, you wrote: >Dear Friends, > >Daniel BOTTUM/BOTTAM b. abt 1764 of Woodstock,Windham,CT d. 1831 Lister, CT > >+ Elizabeth HYDE b. 12 June 1766 Norwich,New London, CT > >I have more information on Elizabeth HYDE, but not her death date or place. > >I do not know who Daniel's parents, siblings were. > >It is my fervent hope that someone will now recognize this family since I >have found out that they were originally from Connecticut. > >Thanks so much for any help. > >Martha Sherman Winters >Oxnard CA >mswinters@mindspring.com Martha, There was a family by the name of LONGBOTTOM who also went by BOTTOM, and lived in the New London County and Windham County part of Connecticut. If you have no luck with the one name, try the other. I believe that it is well documented that they were one and the same family, descended from Daniel and Elizabeth (LAMB) LONGBOTTOM, who were m. 15 Feb 1692, Norwich, CT. According to dates, your Daniel could have been a great-grandson. I have no further information on this family, and no direct relationship to them. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward rlward1@erols.com <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/> 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

    04/22/1999 09:14:43
    1. [GenConnecticut-L] Daniel BOTTUM/BOTTAM of Woodstock, CT
    2. Martha S. Winters
    3. Dear Friends, Daniel BOTTUM/BOTTAM b. abt 1764 of Woodstock,Windham,CT d. 1831 Lister, CT + Elizabeth HYDE b. 12 June 1766 Norwich,New London, CT I have more information on Elizabeth HYDE, but not her death date or place. I do not know who Daniel's parents, siblings were. It is my fervent hope that someone will now recognize this family since I have found out that they were originally from Connecticut. Thanks so much for any help. Martha Sherman Winters Oxnard CA mswinters@mindspring.com

    04/22/1999 08:22:17
    1. [GenConnecticut-L] CT 1790-1860 census
    2. Hello: I too am interested in the above census to locate my CT. ancestors, ROOT: CRAMER: BRONSON: BOOTH(E) family. Will you kindly send me any information that you have available. TYIA< Dorothy-Blakeley NY USA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << The CT 1790 - 1860 census indices are online at the FTM genealogylibrary.com site. Will send list under separate cover. >>

    04/22/1999 05:25:44
    1. [GenConnecticut-L] Burnhams of Ashford
    2. Pat Hamp
    3. If anyone is out there who can provide some advice on the the following, please. My line of Henry S. Burnham looks to be descended from Joseph Burnham's son Rufus. I have searched as many public files as possible for birth information and cannot find anything on the birth of any of Rufus' and Sarah's children. In all the papers I have on Henry he states that he was born in CT but for one paper and it says Canada. What procedure's are needed to get ahold of a birth record from 1815 in CT. Are they stored at the state archives or at a town level? Will either place do a search by mail? 1 Joseph Burnham b: 19 April 1752 in Windham, Connecticutt d: 14 March 1837 in Willington , Tolland, CT . +Elizabeth Durkee b: 13 June 1754 in Windham , Windham, CT m: 13 June 1776 in New Haven Second Church, Windham, Hampton, Connecticut d: 13 April 1828 in Willington , Tolland, CT .... 2 Rufus Burnham b: 26 April 1784 in Ashford Twp., Windham Co., Conneticutt d: 04 March 1832 in Batavia, New York ........ +Sarah Rentham b: Abt. 1785 in Massachusettes .... 2 Alba Burnham b: 17 May 1786 in Ashford Twp, Windham, Connecticut ........ +Sally Snow m: 11 October 1809 in Ashford, Windham Co., Connecticut .... 2 Joseph Burnham b: 23 February 1782 in Ashford Twp., Windham Co., Conneticutt ........ +Sarah Brook Keyes Rufus Burnham b: 26 April 1784 in Ashford Twp., Windham Co., Conneticutt d: 04 March 1832 in Batavia, New York . +Sarah Rentham b: Abt. 1785 in Massachusettes (m. ? in ?) .... 2 Female2 Burnham (b. abt 1825-29) .... 2 Brother Burnham (b. abt. 1820-25) .... 2 Loise Burnham (b. abt. 1810-1815) ........ +Daniel Squers m: 10 November 1835 in Westminster Regular Baptist Church, Westminster, Middlesex Co., Ontario, Canada .... 2 Female3 Burnham (b. abt. 1815-1820) .... 2 Henry S. Burnham b: 31 August 1815 in Conneticutt d: 21 November 1905 in Avoca, St. Clair County , Michigan ........ +Mary Julia Freeman b: Abt. 1821 in Canada m: 26 December 1841 in Regular Baptist Church of Westminister, Westminister Twp., Middlesex Co., Ont. d: Aft. 1880 in Michigan Father: Curtis Freeman Mother: Cynthia Arms Thank you for any help or advice you can give on getting these and older records. Pat Hamp <hamp@voyager.net> -- AOL Messenger: "downbound2" -- to chat Houghton Co., MI USGenWeb <http://www.rootsweb.com/~mihought> Keweenaw Co., Mi USGenWeb <http://www.rootsweb.com/~mikeween> Gratiot Co., MI USGenWeb <http://www.rootsweb.com/~migratio/index1.html> G.L. Shipping Genealogy-Downward Bound <http://www.rootsweb.com/~migls/index.html> AUGER Family Surname Assoc. <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~augerfsa/> BURNHAM Surname <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hamp/index.html>

    04/22/1999 07:23:13
    1. [GenConnecticut-L] In Search Of - Edward O'Connell
    2. Ellie Earley
    3. Edward Michael O'Connell died Aug 30, 1935 St. Catherine's Cemetery Broadbrook (East Windsor) Hartford County CT

    04/22/1999 06:57:07
    1. [GenConnecticut-L] Fwd: [RIGENWEB-L] The "Good Old Days"
    2. --part1_9806565.24504aed_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_9806565.24504aed_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <RIGENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zc03.mx.aol.com (rly-zc03.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.3]) by air-zc03.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:52:52 -0400 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by rly-zc03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id OAA08871; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29995; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371CCC03.C61CB0EA@maine.rr.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:48:35 -0400 From: Bud Dorr <rdorr1@maine.rr.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: "RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com" <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [RIGENWEB-L] The "Good Old Days" Resent-Message-ID: <M4tmwC.A.OUH.PwMH3@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/9509 X-Loop: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: RIGENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com I received this on another site. I thought it was really interesting. ========================== Life in the 1500's ----- Anne Hathaway was the wife of William Shakespeare. She married at the age of 26. This is really unusual for the time. Most people married young, like at the age of 11 or 12. Life was not as romantic as we may picture it. Here are some examples: ============================= Anne Hathaway's home was a 3 bedroom house with a small parlor, which was seldom used (only for company), kitchen, and no bathroom. =============================== Mother and Father shared a bedroom. Anne had a queen sized bed, but did not sleep alone. She also had 2 other sisters and they shared the bed also with 6 servant girls. (this is before she married) They didn't sleep like we do lengthwise but all laid on the bed crosswise. At least they had a bed. ============================== The other bedroom was shared by her 6 brothers and 30 field workers. They didn't have a bed. Everyone just wrapped up in their blanket and slept on the floor. They had no indoor heating so all the extra bodies kept them warm. ============================ They were also small people, the men only grew to be about 5'6" and the women were 4'8". ============================ SO in their house they had 27 people living. Most people got married in June. Why? They took their yearly bath in May, so they were still smelling pretty good by June, although they were starting to smell, so the brides would carry a bouquet of flowers to hide their b.o. =============================== Like I said, they took their yearly bath in May, but it was just a big tub that they would fill with hot water. The man of the house would get the privilege of the nice clean water. Then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. ======================== Last of all the babies. By then the water was pretty thick. Thus, the saying, "don't throw the baby out with the bath water," it was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. I'll describe their houses a little. ========================== You've heard of thatch roofs, well that's all they were. Thick straw, piled high, with no wood underneath. They were the only place for the little animals to get warm. So all the pets; dogs, cats and other small animals, mice, rats, bugs, all lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery so sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Thus the saying, "it's raining cats and dogs," Since there was nothing to stop things from falling into the house they would just try to clean up a lot. ============================== But this posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings from animals could really mess up your nice clean bed, so they found if they would make beds with big posts and hang a sheet over the top it would prevent that problem. That's where those beautiful big 4 poster beds with canopies came from. ========================= When you came into the house you would notice most times that the floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt, that's where the saying "dirt poor" came from. ===================== The wealthy would have slate floors. That was fine but in the winter they would get slippery when they got wet. So they started to spread thresh on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on they would just keep adding it and adding it until when you opened the door it would all start slipping outside. SO they put a piece of wood at the entry way, a "thresh hold". ======================== In the kitchen they would cook over the fire, they had a fireplace in the kitchen/parlor, that was seldom used and sometimes in the master bedroom. They had a big kettle that always hung over the fire and every day they would light the fire and start adding things to the pot. Mostly they ate vegetables, they didn't get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner then leave the leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. =============================== Sometimes the stew would have food in it that had been in there for a month! Thus the rhyme: peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old." ============================ Sometimes they could get a hold on some pork. They really felt special when that happened and when company came over they even had a rack in the parlor where they would bring out some bacon and hang it to show it off. That was a sign of wealth and that a man "could really bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and they would all sit around and "chew the fat." ============================= If you had money your plates were made out of pewter. Sometimes some of their food had a high acid content and some of the lead would leach out into the food. They really noticed it happened with tomatoes. So they stopped eating tomatoes, for 400 years. ============================= Most people didn't have pewter plates though, they all had trenchers, that was a piece of wood with the middle scooped out like a bowl. They never washed their boards and a lot of times worms would get into the wood. After eating off the trencher with worms they would get "trench mouth." ============================== If you were going traveling and wanted to stay at an Inn they usually provided the bed but not the board. =========================== The bread was divided according to status. The workers would get the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family would get the middle and guests would get the top, or the "upper crust". ======================== They also had lead cups and when they would drink their ale or whiskey. The combination would sometimes knock them out for a couple of days. They would be walking along the road and here would be someone knocked out and they thought they were dead. So they would pick them up and take them home and get them ready to bury. They realized if they were too slow about it, the person would wake up. Also, maybe not all of the people they were burying were dead. So they would lay them out on the kitchen table for a couple of days, the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. That's where the custom of holding a "wake" came from. =============== Since England is so old and small they started running out of places to bury people. So they started digging up some coffins and would take their bones to a house and re-use the grave. They started opening these coffins and found some had scratch marks on the inside. One out of 25 coffins were that way and they realized they had still been burying people alive. So they thought they would tie a string on their wrist and lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night to listen for the bell. That is how the saying "graveyard shift" was made. If the bell would ring they would know that someone was "saved by the bell" or he was a "dead ringer". Health and Human Services heads would spin, as well as would our own! I have no idea how much of this was true, but it certainly seems some of it was. Bud ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== Search the RIGenWeb Mailing List http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/mailsrch.html RIGenWeb Surname And Query List http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/state/qryindex.htm --part1_9806565.24504aed_boundary--

    04/21/1999 11:50:37
    1. [GenConnecticut-L] 1860 CT Census
    2. Hello, Sandy Contrary to another reponse that you have received, there IS an index for the CT 1860 census. I shall look up the names that you mentioned and send you the results within a few days. Bill Stansfield: wtstans@aol.com Volunteer Genealogy Reseascher - Fairfield Historical Society

    04/21/1999 10:11:08
    1. Re: [GenConnecticut-L] 1860 CT Census Lookup
    2. Robert H. Ferree
    3. Sandy, There is no Soundex for CT 1860; meaning that you will need the entire roll. To know which microfilms you need, you consult the "Catalogue of 1790-1890 Federal Population Census Data" which should be available from whomever orders your microfilms. The 1860 Census is numbered M653. The CT, Hartford rolls are 77, 78 and 79. The CT, New London rolls are 89, 90 and 91. Good hunting, Bob Sandy St. Martin wrote: > > I need a lookup in the 1860 CT census index. I want to order some film > from LDS and don't know what to ask for. I have access here in Ohio to > CT up to and including 1850 only. So, the names I am looking for are > Oldershaw and Wilkinson. They would probably be in New London or > Hartford County. Would someone have the time to check on this for me? > Thanks! > >Snip..... -- Robert H. & Doris A. Ferree P.O. Box 116 Grizzly Flats California 95636 U.S.A. robertf@innercite.com

    04/21/1999 09:18:55
    1. Re: [GenConnecticut-L] 1860 CT Census Lookup
    2. Kathleen Pantano
    3. Hi Sandy, The CT 1790 - 1860 census indices are online at the FTM genealogylibrary.com site. Will send list under separate cover. Kathleen Pantano >From: "Sandy St. Martin" <sstmarti@hotmail.com> >To: GenConnecticut-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [GenConnecticut-L] 1860 CT Census Lookup >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:30:04 PDT > >I need a lookup in the 1860 CT census index. I want to order some film >from LDS and don't know what to ask for. I have access here in Ohio to >CT up to and including 1850 only. So, the names I am looking for are >Oldershaw and Wilkinson. They would probably be in New London or >Hartford County. Would someone have the time to check on this for me? >Thanks! > > >Sandy St. Martin >sstmarti@hotmail.com > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

    04/21/1999 04:29:48
    1. [GenConnecticut-L] 1860 CT Census Lookup
    2. Sandy St. Martin
    3. I need a lookup in the 1860 CT census index. I want to order some film from LDS and don't know what to ask for. I have access here in Ohio to CT up to and including 1850 only. So, the names I am looking for are Oldershaw and Wilkinson. They would probably be in New London or Hartford County. Would someone have the time to check on this for me? Thanks! Sandy St. Martin sstmarti@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

    04/21/1999 01:30:04
    1. [GenConnecticut-L] Bristol Press
    2. Sheila
    3. If you go to http://www.ctcentral.com. and then click on Local News, you will get to the Bristol Press. (Anyone searching for a newspaermy use http://www.ecola.com) -- Sheila Walsh Bankhead http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/5163 "Life is like stepping onto a boat, which is about to sail out to sea and sink." --Shunryu Suzuki Roshi

    04/20/1999 05:02:41
    1. [GenConnecticut-L] Wm. L Gilbert Clock Co.- Winsted, Conn
    2. Trying to find out info on the Wm. L Gilbert Clock Co. Winsted, Conn. wanting to know when he started company and when it closed its doors. Also how to find out away to date the age of a mantel clock that has been passed down to my husband as a family history piece. Thank you Diana

    04/19/1999 10:50:09
    1. [GenConnecticut-L] THOMAS FOSTER of Voluntown, New London, CT. circa 1718
    2. Allen John Mallory
    3. Help with parents and line of Thomas Foster, husband of Mercy Gates (daughter of Stephen Gates III and Jemima Benjamin). Need their family as only have one daughter: Sarah Foster b. Jul 31, 1717 Preston, New London, CT. (she married Jonathan Harrington, Sr. Allen John Mallory Allen.Mallory@ibm.net Danbury, Fairfield County, Connecticut

    04/19/1999 05:27:21
    1. Re: [GenConnecticut-L] New York
    2. Ray Brown
    3. The Following site list all the Gen. mail list in the countre, it is run by John Fuller. http://users.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html CLWhitford wrote: > Somebody asked the question the other day about a Rootsweb for New York. I > deleted her message but I found one today. GEN-NYS-L-request@rootsweb.com > You need to write SUBSCRIBE in the message box. > Cynthia > clwhitford@msn.com

    04/19/1999 04:49:47
    1. [GenConnecticut-L] Free Cemetery Search
    2. A new project has been formed called In Search Of..... It is a free offer being made for anyone needing a search done in a cemetery for genealogy purposes. If there is a cemetery you would like to have someone do a search for you, please send the request to URSearch@aol.com. This will be matched with a volunteer willing to do the search. The hope is that along with requests for searches, you will be able to offer to search a cemetery in your town for someone else. This will be a free service to connect the "requests" and the "volunteers". To request a cemetery search: In the subject line please put In Search Of...... In the message, please put the state, the county and town you would like searched, being sure to mention that it is for a search. To volunteer to do a search in your town's cemetery: Include in the subject line: In Search Of........ In the message, please include the state, the county and town you are willing to search, being sure to mention that it is to volunteer. I do not need any other information on the search, since that will be given to the volunteer by the person making the request. Please feel free to "volunteer" and "request" for more than one cemetery, town, county, or state. This offer will extend to all states, although I am posting to one state at a time. You will receive a brief reply that your message has been recorded. Going on vacation? Take someone's request with you! You never know who you may find - even your own lost relative. Desiree M Webber (FL)

    04/19/1999 03:35:57
    1. [GenConnecticut-L] New York
    2. CLWhitford
    3. Somebody asked the question the other day about a Rootsweb for New York. I deleted her message but I found one today. GEN-NYS-L-request@rootsweb.com You need to write SUBSCRIBE in the message box. Cynthia clwhitford@msn.com

    04/19/1999 11:35:10
    1. [GenConnecticut-L] Putnam churches
    2. Th Schott Family
    3. You could try writing to the Putnam Historical Society, School Street, P. O. Box 465, Putnam, CT 06260-0465. Or perhaps someone in the library would know: Putnam Public Library, 225 Kennedy Drive, Putnam, CT 06260. Telephone is: 860-963-6826 nancy Schott

    04/19/1999 09:19:42
    1. [GenConnecticut-L] NEWSPAPERS
    2. Hi Could someone send me the website for the Bristol Press in Bristol, CT? Thank you in advance Sharon

    04/19/1999 07:12:59