In a message dated 7/12/2004 12:25:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Who are Christopher and Phoebe Edwards? If I take my son up to Providence for college this fall, I will this time stop by in Hopkinton and again in Stonington to look further into everything HI Valerie, I really know little about Christopher and his wife Phebe. I ran across the couple while researching my sister-in-law's 2nd g grandmother who was named Phebe (Brown) Edwards and had to try to sort them all out. Her Edwards family lived in Scituate and then migrated to West Greenwich and Exeter, RI. I would say it would be worth it to stop off in Hopkinton and/or Westerly to research the Peleg I mentioned. It's possible his family never actually moved - he may have been born in the part of Westerly that is not Hopkinton so some records may be in Westerly. I have found more than a few "border dwellers' who went back and forth between Hopkinton or West Greenwich and the towns just to the west in CT. Do you know when the line for Peleg was approved/accepted by DAR? Some of the very old lines have been found to be incorrect so those lines need to be reevaluated for accuracy. Unless someone has had it approved within the last few years it would be worth it to reexamine the evidence and see where it takes you. I can look at some of my resources and see if there is anymore info on Peleg Edwards. Take care, Donna

In a message dated 7/11/2004 9:00:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Arnold's VR of RI show a Peleg Edwards born to Christopher and Phebe on 3 Sept 1741 in Westerly, RI and his marriage to Margaret King on 15 Aug 1770 in West Greenwich I have seen the 2 records and yes it makes Peleg 15 in marraige. So I don't know, the DAR took the 1755 birthdate. Peleg and family lived in Preston and Stonington. A Peleg Edwards owned land in Preston in 1799 and 1832. I have Peleg as the son of William Edwards and Mary Avery. I may have a revision of my ancestry to do? The Stonington record of their marraige states: I hereby certify that Peleg Edwards of Hopkinton in the County of Kings and Margaret King of West Greenwich daughter to Mary Alan King was lawfully married the 15th day of August 1770 by Samuel Hopkins Justice of the Peace. Who are Christopher and Phoebe Edwards? If I take my son up to Providence for college this fall, I will this time stop by in Hopkinton and again in Stonington to look further into everything Valerie

Hahahaha.... This story you passed on was funny! Another story is about Moses and the great plague of England in 1665. Moses had returned to England and became sick from the plaque. Supposing he was about to die, he dug his own grave and proceeded to lie in it. People thinking he was already dead went to bury him and almost buried him alive.

Versailles is a village in the town of Sprague, New London County, CT......but it doers have it's own post office. All records are in the town hall at Sprague. ----- Original Message ----- From: "sgoodwin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 6:41 PM Subject: [GenCT] Versailles, CT > Could someone tell me if Versaille is a town in and of itself, or is it a > village in either Lisbon or Norwich? Thanks. > Sandy >

Hi Valerie, Your question caught my eye as my sister-in-law's maiden name is Edwards, but I think her branch is different from yours. Arnold's VR of RI show a Peleg Edwards born to Christopher and Phebe on 3 Sept 1741 in Westerly, RI and his marriage to Margaret King on 15 Aug 1770 in West Greenwich. I know you said your Peleg was born in 1755 but if that is correct he would have been only 15 when he married Margaret. Is it possible he is the one born in 1741? That would seem to make a bit more sense. Good luck, Donna in RI

Could someone tell me if Versaille is a town in and of itself, or is it a village in either Lisbon or Norwich? Thanks. Sandy

Another ancestor is Peleg Edwards. I do not have much on this man but he fought in the Revolution and had the rank of corporal. Peleg was born in 1755 in Preston, CT and he married Margaret King from West Greenwich, RI (any info on her would be helpful) When they married, Peleg may have been living in Hopkinton, RI. They married Aug 15, 1770 in Stonington, CT Below is a description of Peleg's regiment: RECORD OF SERVICE OF CONN MEN- WAR OF THE REVOLUTION, WAR OF 1812 AND MEXICAN WAR- 1889 8TH Regiment Col Huntingdon p89 served July 12 1775- Dec 10 1775 Regiment raised by order of the Assembly at the July session 1775. recuited mainly in New London, Hartford and Windham Counties. The regiment was stationed on the Sound until Sept 14, when on requisition from Washington, it was ordered to the Boston Camps and took post at Roxbury in Gen Spencer's Brigade. Remainded until expiratoin of term of service in Dec '75 . Adopted as Continental. Re-organized under Col Huntingdon for service in '76 Col Huntingdon's regiment- 17th Continental 1776 p102 After the seige of Boston, the regiment marched under Washington to NY by way of New London and the Sound in schooners- and remained in that vicini y from April to the close of that year. Assisted in fortifying the City; ordered Aug 24 to the Brooklyn front; engaged in the Battle of Long Island Aug 27 in and near Greenwood Cemetary; was surrounded by the enemy and lost heavily in prisoners; moved with the main army until after the Battle of White Plains; disbanded under Gen Heath, near Peekskill, Dec 31, 1776 Corporal Peleg Edwards became a prisoner of war during the Battle of Long Island. Jan 1, 1777 he was in a prisoner exchange and left in Milford without food or shelter. From other sources, I can gather these men only had summer clothing. In 1790, Peleg lived in Woodbridge, CT. When he died I don't know. Peleg's daughter Phoebe married, as his second wife, William White III. William had been in the revolution, as well, at age 14. He was from Mass. Valerie in NJ

Some of my ancestors were kind enough to be colorful characters or up to something. This means I can find them in the records or local history books. One such person is Moses Wheeler (1898-1698), the first White centenarian in New England. Moses and his sister, Jane came over from England. Jane was married to the Stratford minister Adam Blakeman/Blackman. Moses married Miriam Hawley. Moses was Stratford's first ferryman, a job he did into his 90's. He was also a ship's carpenter and farmer. To quote the book The History of Stratford, by Wm Howard Wilcoxson, 1939 "Moses Wheeler was a picturesque character of indomitable courage, incredible height adn remarkable strength........" "He was a strong powerful man of whom the Indians are said to have stood in mortal terror. The Milford Indians were thought to be unfriendly to him. One day as some of them came to attack him, he took a big dipper of boiling soap, which his wife was then making, and threatened to throw it on them. They dared not advance and left immediately. Another tradition relates that Mr Wheeler was one morning in the cellar of his house, when 3 Indians with tomahawks appeared in the doorway. Realizing his helplessness if attacked, he raised a half-emptied cider cask, saying has he did so 'Let's all have a drink" pretending at the same time to drink from the bunghole. The Indians seeing this and supposing the barrel to be full went away, saying they did not want to fight with such a strong man." Another story is about Moses and the great plague of England in 1665. Moses had returned to England and became sick from the plaque. Supposing he was about to die, he dug his own grave and proceeded to lie in it. People thinking he was already dead went to bury him and almost buried him alive. Another story is Moses originally lived in New Haven. After months of being at sea as a carpenter, he returned home. He kissed his wife and children on a Sunday. Problem: kissing on Sunday was banned and he was chased out of New Haven and moved to Stratford. I can't find the details but I recall that Moses was over 6ft tall and quite muscular. He may have come over with John Davenport and Theophilus Eaton I descend from Moses Wheeler's daugther Miriam who married her first cousin James Blackman. Valerie

Betty, There is an author by the name of Jane Kidder. I don't know if it's a pseudonym or not since she also writes under Charlotte Simms. Stefanie

Hello, While looking for information on a JARRY family in the 1900-1930 timeframe in the Springfield, MA, area in Census information, I came across a list of women who seem to have been in the "Convent of Mary Immaculate" in West Hartford, CT, in 1920. There seems to have been almost 50 women living there with ages varying from 17 to 50+. And, they seem to have come to Hartford from many different areas. So, if any of you are having trouble finding a daughter or sister of a loved one, she could have become "a Sister." FYI: My grandfather, Silas "Dean" LEWIS, was living in Windsor Locks, CT, during the 1940's. He lived there with his second wife, the former Mrs. Hazel BEDELL, and her four children from a previous marriage. She died in 1947. Sometime between 1948 and 1952 he moved to the Springfield, MA, area. In 1952, he married a widow, Mrs Yvonne JARRY. I believe she had an adult son and daughter, and I believe they were "French-Canadian." My grandfather died in 1961, and my parents did not remain in contact with .. Mrs. Yvonne LEWIS.. after the 1960's. Last month I heard from one of the BEDELL grandchildren, and now I am hoping to hear from one of the JARRY grandchildren. I remember meeting them in the 1950's when they were living in or near Chicopee or Holyoke, MA. FYI: I don't know whether my grandfather met .. Mrs. Yvonne JARRY in Windsor Locks, CT, or in Holyoke or Chicopee, MA. But, for the almost 10 years they were married, they lived in Chicopee, MA. Thank you for your time. Betty (near Lowell, MA) (Always looking for KIDDER information from 1700's into early 1800's; especially one Sanforth KIDDER who left CT for TX around 1820.)

In a message dated 7/10/2004 12:00:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Roger: hey cousin :) Yes, cousins for sure! Steve, this has been both a very interesting line for me trying to prove Stephen's parentage. My citation for the descent of Stephen Orcutt from Daniel Orcutt was a genealogy of Florence Julia Brown (which cited Stafford VR's, though didn't give a book or page). Steve, the Stafford, CT VR for Stephen Orcutt as s/o Calem and Mehitabel Orcutt is Volume A, Page 6. Do you have a copy of the Florence Julia Brown genealogy that could be sent to me as an attachment? Ellery Bicknell Crane gives Stephen's birth date as 19-May-1757, one week before the Stephen son of Caleb that you cited...could there be two? Crane's "Genealogical and Personal Memoirs of Worchester County Vol. 1 gives Stephen Orcutt's birth as May 13, 1757. The Commemorative Biographical Record of Tolland and Windham Counties Connecticut (1903) gives Stephen's birth as May 19, 1757. Bible and Family Records, Vol. 2, Compiled by Lucius B. Barbour (1931) as gives the May 19, 1757 birth date for Stephen. This record (at the CT State Library) was a notebook kept by Stephen Orcutt & Mary (Molly) Orcutt's "grand-daughter Aurelia Frances (Orcutt) Maine, of data collected principally by her sister, Maria Celenda (Orcutt) Fletcher." So I really don't know the reliability of any of those works. Maybe there were two Stephen Orcutts born in May 1757 in Stafford, CT -- if so I do not have primary proof of a record as Daniel & Lydia Orcutt being Stephen's parents. The vital record that Florence Julia Brown used would be key. Having said that, however, if your first goal is a Mayflower descent, you can trace Molly Washburn back through her father Solomon, his father Solomon and beyond to Experience Mitchell who arrived on the Mayflower. Yes, I do have two proven line already through Mary (Molly) Washburn as you noted to Francis Cooke and to James Chilton. So I'm really more concerned with just getting Stephen's parentage proven regardless of who the parents are. This, of course, means you have goaded me into checking out Stephen's Pension Records at the Archives to see if the records mention his parents (if you have seen the records, please let me know if I am following a dead end). If I find anything, I wil let you know. I do not have the Pension Records, so if you have that it could be very important. Yes, please let me know what you find. I have some DAR records that state Daniel & Lydia as Stephen parents, but again, I don't know how reliable the DAR records are from that time period. Roger Steve

As promised, here is the ancestry of Thomas Trowbridge as given in "Ancestral Roots" Unlike AR, I am working backwards from latest to earliest. The first number is the Line number of the person and his/her place in line. As you'll note, Thomas Trowbridge is number 46, so I will be breaking the lineage up into pieces. Citation: Weis, Frederick Lewis (1992/2002). "Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700," Seventh Edition, The Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore Maryland. 246G-42 Thomas Trowbridge, [note: Thomas and his wife Elizabeth are well covered in an NEHGR article, Vol. 59, p. 291-297 for which I have created a PDF version if anyone wants it, so I will shorten the relatively long entry here] b. ca. 1600, and named in his father John's will. He married Elizabeth Marshall, bapt. at St. Mary's Arches Church, Exeter on 24 March 1562. 246G-41. Agnes (or Annis) Prowse, was bapt. Tiverton 15 April 1576 and m. to John Trowbridge, bapt. St. Mary Magdelen Church 25 Mar. 1570, son of Thomas Trowbridge. The marriage was preceded by a settlement made by Thomas which granted to Agnes an annuity of 30 pounds for life issuing from all his lands at Rowbarton, occupied by his mother-in-law Alice Hutchings for her life. On the same day, Thomas was admitted to a life interest in his father's properties at Obridge and Staplegrove and Pyrland, partly occupied by Thomas' wife Johanne (nee Hutchins). Agnes' marriage took place at St. Peter's, Tiverton, 31 July 1597, 13 1/2 months before her father's death. Agnes herself was buried Taunton 6 June 1622. The above Thomas Trowbridge, Sr. was a leading citizen and charitable founder, a mercer, with a Tudor mansion extant, in the high street and had served as constable and porttreve of the castle manor. Agnes' husband John Prowse was sole son and h. at his father's death 1620, and served Taunton as Mayor & Magistrate 1629 & 1637 also as warden of St. Mary Magdelen, constable & portreve of Taunton castle manor. He m. (2) 11 March 1623/4 Alice reed of Tiverton. 246G-40. John II Prowse, gent. of Tiverton, who, according to his father's I.P.M. was 39 at his death, received from feoffees the large Plymouth manor of Western Peverel, worth, by the year 18 pounds 7s, 2d, with Chevythorn and Tiverton property worth a further 5 pounds 10s. But at John II's own death, 111 September 1598, his I.P.M. taken in 1601 showed that, by then, all the property was entail upon descendants and relatives with tenure for life. John m. 1 June 1567 Elizabeth, h. to Robert Colwick, her father, merchant taylor and clothier and lord of the manor of West More, Tiverton, whose wife, and mother of Elizabeth, his heir, was Richarda Gover, a widow, whose 1st h. and parentage has not been established. He was bur. St. Peter's 8 Aug. 1564. 246G-39. John Prowse, clothier, s. & h. inherited copyhold land in the manor of Chevythorn, Tiverton from his father, which he granted to Robert, his brother of age in 1524 when taxed on 2 pounds worth of goods, by 1546, paid tax in Tiverton on over 40 pounds. At his death, he left 5 manors in Devon & Cornwall, with much other property, by fine, entail for his 5 sons. His wife, Alice White, given as an heiress in Tiverton, perhaps daughter of Christopher Whyte, taxed on 10 pounds of goods 1546. His memorial slab in St. Peter's Church, Tiverton, reads: "Here lyeth John Prowse, Merchante, who departed the third daye of September 1585. And Alice his wife which he had in marriage 47 years, who departed the 13 daye of August ano dni 1583" 246G-38. Robert Prowse, b. ca 1475, dead 6 Aug. 1529, founder of the Tiverton Devon branch was named as yr. son of John & Joan in Pole's "Description" His Prowse shield of arms with 4th son's martlet for difference:, hung in St. Peter's Church, Tiverton, where he and his unnamed wife are buried, according to will of his yr. son Robert. Henry VIII's general pardon at his ascension named Robert Sr. as of Chevythorn Manor. The lord of this manor was Philip Champernown. (some stuff snipped here). 246G-37. John Prowse, s & h., b. ca. 1436, d. 1526, lord of Chagford, m. ca. 1467 Joan Orchard, dau. of John Orchard, d. 1480 "custos rotularum" for Devon under Edward IV. Three published I.P.M.'s cover his heritage and that of his other wife Joan Calwoodley, and son William, who died d.s.p. The ultimate heir to N. Devon holdings in Northam, Bydeford, Abbotsham, and Dodescomb in Bampton was John Prowse's s. & h. Lawrence. 246G-36. Richard Prowse, s. & h. of Chagford, b. ca. 1407, m. ca. 1435 to Margaret, dau. of William Norton, by Elizabeth Crowys of the Morchard, Devon, branch. William was King's Esquier and Usher to the Council Chamber under Henry IV and V with property near Exeter, Devon, and elsewhere. 246G-35. Agnes Bamfield, one of Thomas's five children was probably born betw. 1377 and 1386, and m. ca. 1406 to John Prowse of Chagford, Devon, b. ca. 1377, liv. 1477, s. & h. of John Prowse and Maud Cruwys, who all authorities agree was a dau.. & heiress of the cadet Prowse family of East Anstey, Devon. She and her husband received f rom trustees Chagford lands 1435. 246G-34. Thomas Bamfield, b. by 1345, liv. 1392/3, became the "domicellus" of Huxham Manor, with his mother Joan presenting the priest, by license of elder brother John, who d.s.p. Thos. m. by 1376 Agnes, dau. of Adam Coplestone, by Alice Frerrers of Churston Ferrers, Devon, dau. of Sir John and h. of Hugh Ferrers. 246G-33. John Bamfield III of Poltimore and later Huxham, seen 1361 on presenting the priest, but d. by 1362. He m. Joan, dau. of Geoffrey, sister of WIlliam Gilbert, ancestors of the Elizabethan colonial explorers to N. America, Sir Humphrey and Ralph Gilbert. Geoffrey founded Compton Castle, Marldon, Devon. He was M.P. Totnes 1626, Commissioner, and tax gatherer for Edward II. John and Joan received from her father's feoffees 60 acres of Huxham land with a reversion to their s. & h. John and yr. son Thomas. 246G-32. John Bamfield II of Poltimore, suc. by 1329 when Babcary, Soberest lands conveyed to him by Fine, naming his first wife Isabel, dau. of Lord Henry Cobham's yr. brother Sir John Cobham of Blackborough, by Amicia de Bolhay,, dau. of Sir James of Poltimore Manor, Devon. By 1337, Bamfield had m. (2) Joan, dau. of Wm. Huxham of that Devon manor, who d.s.p. as Bamfield's widow. He also paid homage to his cousin John, Lord Beauchamp of Hatch for lands held of him. 246G-31. Eleanor Beauchamp, dau of Sir Humphrey Beauchamp (246B-30 [see next post]) by Sybil Oliver. He first served overseas 1274 and by military summons against the Scots, as holding 40 pounds Som. & Dorset lands. Knight of the Shire in parliament for Devon 1312, Devon & Dorset 1313. Eleanor probably b. ca. 1275 as seen m. 1292 in deed 395 of Sir Wm. Pole's collection, when her husband John Bamfield of psh of Weston Somerset, permanently moved the family seat, by purchase, to the manor of Poltimore, Devon. (See TAG, 57:32 (1981) and The Genealogist IX:9-10 (1988))

Roger: hey cousin :) My citation for the descent of Stephen Orcutt from Daniel Orcutt was a genealogy of Florence Julia Brown (which cited Stafford VR's, though didn't give a book or page). Ellery Bicknell Crane gives Stephen's birth date as 19-May-1757, one week before the Stephen son of Caleb that you cited...could there be two? Having said that, however, if your first goal is a Mayflower descent, you can trace Molly Washburn back through her father Solomon, his father Solomon and beyond to Experience Mitchell who arrived on the Mayflower. This, of course, means you have goaded me into checking out Stephen's Pension Records at the Archives to see if the records mention his parents (if you have seen the records, please let me know if I am following a dead end). If I find anything, I wil let you know. Steve > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: Stephen ORCUTT > From: > [email protected] > Date: > Fri, 9 Jul 2004 19:48:25 EDT > To: > [email protected] > > >In a message dated 7/9/2004 9:00:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: >Other lines include Washburns through Connecticut (Molly, wife of >Stephen Orcutt, who fought in the Rev. War -- she descended through >Solomon of Bridgewater and Tolland CO.), and Cushman's (Lydia who was >dau. of William Cushman and married Stephen Orcutt's father Daniel).. > >Always looking for cousins > >Steve Donahue >Steve, > >I have the same Stephen ORCUTT & Molly WASHBURN line in my genealogy that you >mentioned. I have done alot of studying on this along with another person >who is also studying this line because I have not been able to sufficiently >prove it for a Mayflower line through Lydia CUSHMAN to Isaac ALLERTON and Degory >PRIEST. So far there is nothing that we have found that is conclusive that >Stephen ORCUTT b. 175_ in Stafford, CT, who married Mary (Molly) WASHBURN is the >son of Daniel and Lydia (CUSHMAN) ORCUTT. There is alot of stuff out there >that lends support to Lydia CUSHMAN as Stephen's mother, but it is all secondary >-- nothing primary that we have found. I believed the information on Daniel >& Lydia as Stephen's parents for a long time, but I found Stephen ORCUTT's >birth record in the Stafford, CT vital records listed as follows: "Stephen >Orcutt Son of Calem and Mehitabel Orcutt was Born May 26th 175_." There was a typo >in the VRs and it should have been Caleb ORCUTT (rather than "Calem"). Caleb >ORCUTT was married to Mehitable HARVEY, and he was s/o William ORCUTT II & >Hannah SMITH. There are also probate records from the Town of Stafford on >microfilm at the CT State Library in Hartford, CT that show that following Caleb's >death in 1758, his sons Stephen, John, and Job were minors and guardians were >assigned to them. In Stephen's case, David Orcutt was assigned as guardian of >Stephen ORCUTT in 1860 when Stephen was "about five years of age." In 1769 >probate records, Seth JOHNSON became Stephen ORCUTT's guardian -- Stephen being >"aged about fourteen years." Perhaps David ORCUTT, the former guardian, >died. If there is any better primary documentation out there I would love to know >of it. Thanks > >Roger > >

How can I find who is buried there? My tree the Griffis, Griffee should be there. Rev. Jim Griffis

In a message dated 7/9/2004 9:00:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Other lines include Washburns through Connecticut (Molly, wife of Stephen Orcutt, who fought in the Rev. War -- she descended through Solomon of Bridgewater and Tolland CO.), and Cushman's (Lydia who was dau. of William Cushman and married Stephen Orcutt's father Daniel).. Always looking for cousins Steve Donahue Steve, I have the same Stephen ORCUTT & Molly WASHBURN line in my genealogy that you mentioned. I have done alot of studying on this along with another person who is also studying this line because I have not been able to sufficiently prove it for a Mayflower line through Lydia CUSHMAN to Isaac ALLERTON and Degory PRIEST. So far there is nothing that we have found that is conclusive that Stephen ORCUTT b. 175_ in Stafford, CT, who married Mary (Molly) WASHBURN is the son of Daniel and Lydia (CUSHMAN) ORCUTT. There is alot of stuff out there that lends support to Lydia CUSHMAN as Stephen's mother, but it is all secondary -- nothing primary that we have found. I believed the information on Daniel & Lydia as Stephen's parents for a long time, but I found Stephen ORCUTT's birth record in the Stafford, CT vital records listed as follows: "Stephen Orcutt Son of Calem and Mehitabel Orcutt was Born May 26th 175_." There was a typo in the VRs and it should have been Caleb ORCUTT (rather than "Calem"). Caleb ORCUTT was married to Mehitable HARVEY, and he was s/o William ORCUTT II & Hannah SMITH. There are also probate records from the Town of Stafford on microfilm at the CT State Library in Hartford, CT that show that following Caleb's death in 1758, his sons Stephen, John, and Job were minors and guardians were assigned to them. In Stephen's case, David Orcutt was assigned as guardian of Stephen ORCUTT in 1860 when Stephen was "about five years of age." In 1769 probate records, Seth JOHNSON became Stephen ORCUTT's guardian -- Stephen being "aged about fourteen years." Perhaps David ORCUTT, the former guardian, died. If there is any better primary documentation out there I would love to know of it. Thanks Roger

Hello listers, Recently, over the last 60 days, I have been requesting applications that were filed to the New York Bureau of Indian Affairs in 1901 from NARA. I started with a private researcher in the area who is really a nice person to work with. Peggy, my researcher actually went to NARA and "hand wrote in" the application names, numbers, of folks who were claiming to be affiliated with "Brothertown" Indians. The "remnants of New England Tribes" migrated out of New England about 1760s...they went to upstate New York. They became the Brothertown Tribe there, later migrating and moving off their lands to Wisconsin. The applications I have, which detail wonderful genealogy are posted here for your review, in reviewing the names, please keep in mind many of the folks may not have recorded their genealogy in these applications correctly back to 1838, but made an attempt to file the claim with their information as best they could recall. When I first approached my list, I looked for surnames that would have "been" in 1901...perhaps this list will help. To date I have received 3 batches of 10/12 applications I have requested, along with the actual "rejection" report in full from NARA. If anyone would like information from these files, the ones listed below, just email me privately, in the subject line of your email put Brothertown, Application #, etc. and I'll not consider it a spam email. Thanks. Here is the list: Louisa Gardner (i.e., Welch) Application #183 grandparents: father's side William Welch, a Narragansett mother's side: Shipio a Brothertown Maria Blunt Application#2797 descends from: Betsy Primus Peters Charles N. Sands Application #2970 descends from: Christopher Harry, a Narragansett who moved to Brothertown Alvado Gardiner, Application #2862 descends from: John Sekator, who was a Brothertown Town Marshall Florence B. Cheats, Application #3319 descends from: John Paul who removed to Brothertown 1784 Amelia Ann Hall, Application #3341 descends from: Christopher Harry, a Narragansett Indian removed to Brothertown Nathan J. Brooks, Application #3109 descends from: Sampson Potter Wealthy Hall, Application #3135 descends from: Christopher Harry Mary M. Gardiner, Application #3189 descends from: John Sekator I will post more later, I have a conference call right now. Nancy-Jo Nunez A genealogy enthusiast; researching Weampee, Walmesley/Wamsley/Womsley and Onsley in New England.

My oldest known CT ancestors: My web pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~scperkins/ cover the following New Haven Colony families: Edward PERKINS, probably, London, Eng. >CT>NC>VA>KY>IL>KY; married Elizabeth BUTCHER Perkins, CT; Thomas BARNES, ENG>MA>CT; married Mary/Elizabeth ????? Barnes CT, William CHATTERTON, CT; married Mary CLARK Chatterton, CT, James CLARK, CT; married Sarah ????? Clark, CT; Timothy FORD, ENG>MA>CT; married Elizabeth HIPKINS Ford, CT; John FROST, ENG>NY>CT; married Mercy PAYNE Frost CT, Samuel HOTCHKISS, Doddington Whitchurch Parish, Shropshire, ENG>CT; married Elizabeth CLEVERLY Hotchkiss, CT; Mathew MOULTHROP, Wraby, Lincolnshire, ENG>CT; married Jane NICHOLL Moulthroup, Wraby, Lincolnshire, Eng, CT, Deputy William PARKER, CT; married Margery PRITCHARD? Parker, CT, William Payne, CT; married Unknown? Deacon William PECK, CT; married Elizabeth ????? Peck, CT, Henry PECK, CT; married Joan ????? Peck CT, Richard SPERRY, Bedforshire ENG?>CT>NC; married Dennise ?????? Sperry CT, John THOMPSON, CT; married Dorothy ????? Thompson CT, Appreciate any info on these persons and their families. Please look at my web pages: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~scperkins/ select the link for Jabez Perkins to see all of my CT families with wills, deeds, etc., for most of them. Later, Steven C. Perkins

This Samuel(Hotchkiss) is my ancestor's brother. Elizabeth Phelps has a very convoluted line and have researched it in the past as it ties in with my Crow-Gilman line. If anyone would like to know more let me know. Janice Betsey Hotchkiss' parents, Samuel and Elizabeth Phelps are my gggg-grandparents. I don't have a lot on her, but do have some on her siblings. I had her husband as Pixley with no 1st name so you have filled in a blank for me. I'd love to know more about the Pixleys' if you can help. Let me know what you'd like on Betsey and her siblings. Lin

Betsey Hotchkiss' parents, Samuel and Elizabeth Phelps are my gggg-grandparents. I don't have a lot on her, but do have some on her siblings. I had her husband as Pixley with no 1st name so you have filled in a blank for me. I'd love to know more about the Pixleys' if you can help. Let me know what you'd like on Betsey and her siblings. Lin

I don't have information on Nathaniel Turner, however, George Lamberton was my G-Grandfather. For your general information H. W. Longfellow wrote a poem "The Phantom Ship" which concerned the missing ship. I have other information giving background on the ship, why it was built, etc. If you are interested, I can either send it to the list or contact me at my E-Mail address. Wally Baker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Johnson Witt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 3:55 PM Subject: [GenCT] July Challenge - Nathaniel Turner and Lamberton's Ship > My eighth great grandfather was Capt. Nathaniel Turner, who was born in England, and died in 1646 or 1647 (on Lamberton's ship). His eldest daughter Mary Turner, my > ancestor, married Thomas Yale in 1645. > > Nathaniel Turner came, probably from London, with the Winthrop Fleet in 1630 and settled in Saugus. He became a freeman on July 3, 1632. He evidently married after arriving in America but the name of his wife is not recorded in my main source for this family, The Lineage of Jeremiah Mead of Greenwich, Connecticut, Soldier of the American Revolution - written by Mary Beeler Sawers in 1958. > > He was one of the first settlers of the New Haven Colony in 1638. He was lost at sea in 1646 or 1647 on Lamberton's ship when it foundered on its maiden voyage to England. In January 1646 or 1647 the ship sailed from New Haven with several planters of New Haven aboard, including George Lamberton, master, Thomas Gregson, and Captain Nathaniel Turner. The ship was never heard from again. > > My questions: > 1. Who was his wife, the mother of Mary Turner? I have the name Margaret Leachland as a possibility but have no solid documentation. > 2. I don't have the dates of Nathaniel Turner's birth or death. Much has been written about the tragic voyage of this ship. I have seen the date of its voyage listed as January 1646 and January 1647. Does anyone know which date is correct? Or perhaps his birth date? > > I appreciate any information that can be provided about these ancestors. > > Sandy Johnson Witt > Gainesville, Florida > > New England Ancestors: Anderson, Bosch, Bostwick, Brinsmead, Brown, Carter, > Curtis, Ferris, Groves, Hardy, Hobby, Holmes, Husted, Kitchell, Knapp, > Lockwood, Mead, Pardee, Peat/Peet/Peake, Peck, Porter, Potter, > Scholey/Schooley, Sheaffe, Sherman, Turner, Waterbury, Yale CT, NJ <England, > Scotland & Wales 1600s > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! > >