I have Denison and Griswold. Carole CT

Hi Abby, I apologize for changing Joseph's name to George. It was late and I was very tired so I guess that's what happened. I can't figure out any other reason. I checked the rest of the info I send you and did not find any other "tired" mistakes. June ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 5:06 AM Subject: Re: [GenCT] TIBBALS > That is a relief. You had me worried there for a while. I guess old > ggrandfather James was fairly careful. Ithink I am all set now. The rest of it > seems to agree with you. > BTW, John Talcott's father was governor Joseph, probably a typo. It is > too early for me to go digging in files, but I know one of the sources I used > was the online CT governor bios. > Abigail Clarke's mother was Deborah Gold. There is a lot of stuff on > the Gold and Phippen names in CT records and I think that is what I used. I > remember corresponding with an avid Phippen researcher. > Sorry not to be more exact. > Abby > > > > In a message dated 2/2/05 12:30:51 AM, [email protected] writes: > > > > Yes, I have your Abigail. She was the dtr. of Thomas, son of Thomas & > > Abigail Stream. He m. Sarah Briscoe, first wife, 8 Apr. 1703 (MVR) who was > > baptized 27 Feb. 1681 and died 25 Jan. 1718, dtr. of Nathaniel Briscoe & > > Mary Camp. Abigail Tibbals b. 3 June 1704, baptized 27 Apr. 1718 (First > > Church of Milford), died 16 Feb. 1784. Mar. Hartford, CT 30 Dec. 1725 John > > Talcott bpt. 27 Feb. 1698/9 died 1772 s of Gov. George & Abigail Clark. > > I think that someone just got mixed up on the names of Tibbals & > > Theobold. Maybe they couldn't quite remember it and settled on Theobold. > > Was Abigail Clarke easy to verify because of her marriage or do you have > > an inside tie to Clark lines? > > > >

Griswolds listed in "Genealogical History of the Redfield Family in the United States", by John Howard Redfield, 1860. Page 66: Phebe Ann Redfield, 7th dau. of Sylvester, was married in 1827 to Edward Griswold of Clinton, Conn., son of Levi and Abby (Kelsey) Griswold. She died February 25, 1843, aged 34 years. Children: Clarissa H. Griswold, b. Jan 30, 1828; Levi E. Griswold, b. Oct 21, 1832; Eliza A. Griswold, b. Jan 11, 1837. Page 75: Thankful Redfield, 2d dau. of Eliakim, was married December 25, 1794, to David Griswold of Killingworth, Conn, who was b. November 20, 1768. He was county surveyor for Middlesex county, Conn., and d. March 12, 1833. His widow died December 22, 1858, aged 88 years. Child: David Martin Griswold, b. April 23, 1797, m. April 24 1817 Mary Lord, dau. of Wm. and Esther (Parmelee) Lord, by whom he has had 11 children, all born in Killingworth. He now resides in West Haven, Conn. (1860) Page 134: Lucy Redfield, 2d dau. of Ebenezer, was married March 3, 1822, to Martin Griswold, farmer, Clinton, Conn. Children: Maria Griswold and Charles Griswold. (no vital dates given). Page 180: Albert Francis Redfield, 4th son of Luther, resides at Clyde, NY, merchant. He m. March 9, 1853, Susan A. Griswold, dau of Aaron and Hannah Griswold. Child: Mary Griswold Redfield, b. at Clyde, April 27, 1854.

I think I have a Deborah Griswold, 1696-1731, who married Robert Dennison in 1721. Abby

I too, have a couple of Griswold.... I have two indirect ones. Mary Griswold, m. Timmothy Phelps, son William Phelps m. Abigail Mudge, who was sister to my Ebenezer Mudge which is my direct Mary Griswold, b. October 05, 1644, Windsor, Connecticut, British Colonies, d. February 07, 1716/17, Windsor, Connecticut, British Colonies, m. March 19, 1661/62, Timothy Phelps, she was the dau of Edward Griswold and Margaret ? NOTES: vi. Timothy. Born on 1 Sep 1639 in Windsor, Hartford Co., CT. Timothy died in CT bef 28 Sep 1719; he was 80. On 19 Mar 1661/1662 when Timothy was 21, he married Mary GRISWOLD, daughter of Edward GRISWOLD & Margaret ?, in Windsor, Hartford Co., CT. Born on 5 Oct 1644 in Windsor, Hartford Co., CT. Mary was baptized in Windsor, Hartford Co., CT on 13 Oct 1644. Mary died in Windsor, Hartford Co., CT on 7 Feb 1717; she was 72. These appear to be two different Mary Griswold and Timothy Phelps. Hope this might help someone Cheryl

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Have many Griswolds. May we have more info ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 4:29 AM Subject: Re: [GenCT] surnames in CT > Anyone connected to Morarty/Morrarty,Denison,Griswold,or Young out there? > If so, please let me know. Thanks, Donna > >

I have many Griswolds in my line. Could we have more info. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 7:13 AM Subject: Re: [GenCT] surnames in CT > I have Griswold in my tree, but I would have to look up the names. > >

I have a Young married to a Struzinski. The family ranges from Branford out to Old Saybrook, Ct. Cindy lou Burgess Bristol, Ct Researching Hay,Bacon, Lawler, Stannard, Struzinski,Dziemit, Spak, Burgess,Singer Smith, Wentworth,Paterson ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [GenCT] surnames in CT > Anyone connected to Morarty/Morrarty,Denison,Griswold,or Young out there? > If so, please let me know. Thanks, Donna > >

I have Griswold in my tree, but I would have to look up the names.

Anyone connected to Morarty/Morrarty,Denison,Griswold,or Young out there? If so, please let me know. Thanks, Donna

That is a relief. You had me worried there for a while. I guess old ggrandfather James was fairly careful. Ithink I am all set now. The rest of it seems to agree with you. BTW, John Talcott's father was governor Joseph, probably a typo. It is too early for me to go digging in files, but I know one of the sources I used was the online CT governor bios. Abigail Clarke's mother was Deborah Gold. There is a lot of stuff on the Gold and Phippen names in CT records and I think that is what I used. I remember corresponding with an avid Phippen researcher. Sorry not to be more exact. Abby In a message dated 2/2/05 12:30:51 AM, [email protected] writes: >   Yes, I have your Abigail.  She was the dtr. of Thomas, son of  Thomas & > Abigail Stream.  He m. Sarah Briscoe, first wife, 8 Apr. 1703 (MVR) who was > baptized  27 Feb. 1681 and died 25 Jan. 1718, dtr. of Nathaniel Briscoe & > Mary Camp.  Abigail Tibbals b. 3 June 1704, baptized 27 Apr. 1718 (First > Church of Milford), died 16 Feb. 1784.  Mar. Hartford, CT 30 Dec. 1725 John > Talcott bpt. 27 Feb. 1698/9 died 1772 s of Gov. George & Abigail Clark. >    I think that someone just got mixed up on the names of Tibbals & > Theobold.  Maybe they couldn't quite remember it and settled on Theobold. >    Was Abigail Clarke easy to verify because of her marriage or do you have > an inside tie to Clark lines? >

Hi Abby, Yes, I have your Abigail. She was the dtr. of Thomas, son of Thomas & Abigail Stream. He m. Sarah Briscoe, first wife, 8 Apr. 1703 (MVR) who was baptized 27 Feb. 1681 and died 25 Jan. 1718, dtr. of Nathaniel Briscoe & Mary Camp. Abigail Tibbals b. 3 June 1704, baptized 27 Apr. 1718 (First Church of Milford), died 16 Feb. 1784. Mar. Hartford, CT 30 Dec. 1725 John Talcott bpt. 27 Feb. 1698/9 died 1772 s of Gov. George & Abigail Clark. I think that someone just got mixed up on the names of Tibbals & Theobold. Maybe they couldn't quite remember it and settled on Theobold. Was Abigail Clarke easy to verify because of her marriage or do you have an inside tie to Clark lines? I have Clarks and can't get beyond 1829! If you need more information on her father, grandfather & gg'father ( the immigrant), let me know and I will send it on to you. June ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:32 AM Subject: Re: [GenCT] TIBBALS > I appreciate your looking into this. My sources are old family stuff and > most of the Talcott stuff came from my great grandfather back in the late 1800s. > I am pretty sure of the Talcott line since they were fairly prominent and > easy to trace, John's father was a governor of CT and he was a product of a > first marriage to Abigail Clarke ... another easy one to verify. What I have > on John is born 1698/99 and died 1771 and marrying Abigail Theobold on > December 30, 1725. Her dates are given as 1703-1784, which would make her 22 when > she was married and it seems unlikely that John was her second husband at that > age. I amnot sure where the Tibbals popped up from. Let me know what you > think. > Abby >

My earliest dates are a marriage in 1743/44, so a lot of your details are way before mine (at the moment). Please do keep the info coming. Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [GenCT] TIBBALS > I appreciate your looking into this. My sources are old family stuff and > most of the Talcott stuff came from my great grandfather back in the late 1800s. > I am pretty sure of the Talcott line since they were fairly prominent and > easy to trace, John's father was a governor of CT and he was a product of a > first marriage to Abigail Clarke ... another easy one to verify. What I have > on John is born 1698/99 and died 1771 and marrying Abigail Theobold on > December 30, 1725. Her dates are given as 1703-1784, which would make her 22 when > she was married and it seems unlikely that John was her second husband at that > age. I amnot sure where the Tibbals popped up from. Let me know what you > think. > Abby > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 1/28/05 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.3 - Release Date: 1/31/05

I appreciate your looking into this. My sources are old family stuff and most of the Talcott stuff came from my great grandfather back in the late 1800s. I am pretty sure of the Talcott line since they were fairly prominent and easy to trace, John's father was a governor of CT and he was a product of a first marriage to Abigail Clarke ... another easy one to verify. What I have on John is born 1698/99 and died 1771 and marrying Abigail Theobold on December 30, 1725. Her dates are given as 1703-1784, which would make her 22 when she was married and it seems unlikely that John was her second husband at that age. I amnot sure where the Tibbals popped up from. Let me know what you think. Abby

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Hi Abby, It seems that everyone in the "Milford" Tibbals had a daughter named Abigail. I haven't found any with a Theobold name, though. Is it possible it might have been a 1st marriage name? I have the book "Early Families of Milford, Connecticut" which is probably where I got most of my information from. Like you, my sources leave a lot to be desired. When I first started doing this, 30+ years ago, I knew nothing about the protocol and was just happy to find my lines. Eventually, I found my way into a genealogical society and have since learned a lot. Unfortunately, I have a lot of information that I have no idea where it came from. For instance, I have a Thomas Tibbals b. 1575, Ellesborough, Buckingham, Eng. m. Avis (?) as father of Thomas (the immigrant). I can't even imagine where that came from unless someone sent it to me. Anyway, if you can provide me with more information on your Abigail, perhaps I can unearth something for you. June ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [GenCT] TIBBALS > > In a message dated 1/28/05 11:01:04 PM, [email protected] writes: > > > > Do > > you happen to know Sarah's maiden name? > > > > Hi June. > I never never found a surname of either of Thomas's wives. It is fun to > share but I don't a lot of information. My files start from some very old > family material and some of the sources are a bit shaky, either missing or from the > period when genealogy contained a lot of wishful thinking. I may spend the > rest of my life trying to get them accurate and sourced. One of my questions > has been how Abigail Theobold had a father named Tibbals. Maybe we can help > each other. > Abby >

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In a message dated 1/28/05 11:01:04 PM, [email protected] writes: > Do > you happen to know Sarah's maiden name? > Hi June. I never never found a surname of either of Thomas's wives. It is fun to share but I don't a lot of information. My files start from some very old family material and some of the sources are a bit shaky, either missing or from the period when genealogy contained a lot of wishful thinking. I may spend the rest of my life trying to get them accurate and sourced. One of my questions has been how Abigail Theobold had a father named Tibbals. Maybe we can help each other. Abby