"Enno Borgsteede" <ennoborg@gmail.com> wrote in message news:879fd$512f8408$5ed1100c$27686@cache80.multikabel.net... > Hi Tony, > >> Thanks for posting this Enno because you're very wrong here. FHISO >> standards >> are developed collaboratively. There is no such thing as "my model". >> Neither >> I, nor any other individual, is developing a standard that all others are >> expected to use. >> >> All members are invited to list requirements, recommendations, and even >> proposals for design elements. If you're not there then how can FHISO >> accommodate your own personal requirements? > > I'm not there, because I know that the governing body of the FHISO > consists of people who spent most of their time rejecting other peoples > ideas on better gedcom, like the idea of personas. > > When you want standards, you need people who are open minded, i.e. that > they accept that someone wants to use a technique that they personally > reject as a waste of time. FHISO is not like that. > > Look: I personally think that putting templates from evidence explained > into genealogy is a waste of time. Programs that implement it scare me > away, but I know that if enough people support it, it will be part of the > standard, so I will have to accept that it's there. > > In better gedcom, I saw that people rejected a simple model like DeadEnds, > saying that they saw no need to collect data, and that nominal record > linking was a silly idea. And at the same time, they spent a lot of time > advocating things that I think are silly too. > > My point is, if you believe in cooperation, you can't reject things that > way. You will have to accept that there are parts in the model or standard > that you will probably never use yourself. If you can't, as some members > of the FHISO have proven on the better gedcom wiki, and on stack exchange, > you don't belong in a standards organisation. > > And as long as these people are there, I won't join. > > cheers, > > Enno > Enno, there is no "governing body". FHISO has "organising members" (of which I am one) until we manage a transition to an elected and self-governing organisation. It's sad that you do not accommodate others having differing opinions but no one person is calling the shots here. If you're one of the many people supporting the idea of personae then join us and make some good use-cases for them. Surely that's not too onerous. Tony Proctor