Hi Tony, > I'm afraid the sleight in my previous post was aimed at those annoying folks > who say: it's not possible (it is), it'll never work (it will) I'm happy to be one of those. I've seen many efforts to unite people on a single idea, and as far as I know, most have failed. And the reason why they failed is simple: When you design a model, it is based on your view of the world, i.e., something in your head. That's not some scientific truth, if that could exist, it's YOUR view. Now, when I look at your model, like I did last week in our RootsDev hangout, I see things that I like, things that look way too complicated for my purposes, and I miss a few things that are essential to ME. And when I tell you about these things, there's a fat chance that you think the same way about my ideas, and that's why it can't work. It's like wanting all people in the world to think the same, act the same, and I find that a frightening idea. Thinking about one model is like expecting that all operating systems use the same file system (they don't), all people follow the same religion (they don't), or economists to think alike (they don't). I believe in standards for interfaces, like HDMI, and USB, but I don't believe in a single model that rules all computers in the world. There is too much variety in people's ideas, and that's how I like it to be. As far as I'm concerned, people (and genealogy) benefit the most when you don't try to force a standard model upon them, which is why I will not join the FHISO. For me, it's just as bad an idea as the Euro. thanks, Enno