Are any of the standard genealogy programs significantly better when it comes to doing a one name study? For years I've happily used BrothersKeeper for my "regular" genealogy but it seems to be of little value for a one name study. Of course I guess would help if I knew exactly what I want the program to do for me other than just somehow making things easier. --
Wasn't it who wrote: >Of course I guess would help if I knew exactly what I want the program to >do for me other than just somehow making things easier. Some features that I find useful for an ONS that I almost never use in a conventional family tree: It must be easy to break links between individuals. In an ONS I find that it's much more common to discover that I've made Fred Hardiker the son of the wrong James Hardiker. It would also be nice to be able to do things like move various event entries from the wrong James Hardiker to the right one without having to retype them, and do things like merging what you previously thought were two different James Hardiker individuals into a single individual. It would be really nice to be able to open two unrelated individuals for editing at the same time. [The software I use doesn't do that.] I also find that I reorder the main display in unusual orders quite a lot. The default order of Surname,Firstname isn't very useful if you've got 852 entries for individuals with the Hardiker surname and you're looking for someone who might have been called James Hardiker or James Hardicker or James Hardicre who was born around 1852. The ability to sort by things like birth date, marriage date, death date or first name makes looking for someone easier. In a normal family tree you might only have a few dozen individuals with the same surname, so it's easy to scan by surname. Soundex and/or wildcard searches within the database would be nice for that purpose too. Software that stores a "mother's maiden name" in a searchable field would be useful. When you come across a birth certificate index entry for a William Hardiker that says that his mother's maiden name is Alston, but don't yet know who his parents actually were, it's useful to be able to store that information. Then when you later find a marriage between a Mr Hardiker and a Miss Alston you can quickly find individuals in your database that might be children of that marriage. [With the software I use, I write "mmn Alston" in a searchable note field.] It would also be nice to be able to store events that you can't yet associate with a particular individual. You might come across a parish register entry for the marriage of Mary Hardiker to Arthur Shuttleworth which doesn't state her age, and have several entries for Mary Hardikers who are of marriageable age who lived nearby. I don't know if there's any software that could store that information and then be able to attach it to the right Mary Hardiker when you find out which one that is. -- Mike Williams Gentleman of Leisure
Mike Williams wrote: > Wasn't it who wrote: > >> Of course I guess would help if I knew exactly what I want the program to >> do for me other than just somehow making things easier. > > Some features that I find useful for an ONS that I almost never use in a > conventional family tree: > > It must be easy to break links between individuals. In an ONS I find > that it's much more common to discover that I've made Fred Hardiker the > son of the wrong James Hardiker. I never make links unless certain far too many Mary Lapham in the same parish for example > > It would also be nice to be able to do things like move various event > entries from the wrong James Hardiker to the right one without having to > retype them, and do things like merging what you previously thought were > two different James Hardiker individuals into a single individual. in FTM 16 >> Menu >> People >> Fix Relationships >> detach Child detach Spouse Attach Child Attach spouse before doing this I add a temoraray surname Zz which means i can use thge "End" key to find them very quickly in the dialog box I delet Zz after Atthing the individual also Other PARENTS defines adoption or step children too > > It would be really nice to be able to open two unrelated individuals for > editing at the same time. [The software I use doesn't do that.] to link lose ends I use Ur-Lapham with a location as a first name see http://www.google.com/search?q=ur-LAPHAM&num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&filter=0 I estimate dates of birth of parents or spouses as 20 to 30 years before the event so the eleven year span shows that is inventeed but helps with chronological sorting If I have no age at death I do not estimate adate of birth because the range is too great to be useful > I also find that I reorder the main display in unusual orders quite a > lot. The default order of Surname,Firstname isn't very useful if you've > got 852 entries for individuals with the Hardiker surname and you're > looking for someone who might have been called James Hardiker or James > Hardicker or James Hardicre who was born around 1852. > The ability to > sort by things like birth date, marriage date, death date or first name > makes looking for someone easier. In a normal family tree you might only > have a few dozen individuals with the same surname, so it's easy to scan > by surname. FTM allowas surname or date of birth only > Soundex and/or wildcard searches within the database would be nice for > that purpose too. I standardize all spelling variations with an AKA / alias LAPHAM > Software that stores a "mother's maiden name" in a searchable field > would be useful. In FTM 16 any field maybe searched from the edit menu < When you come across a birth certificate index entry > for a William Hardiker that says that his mother's maiden name is > Alston, but don't yet know who his parents actually were, it's useful to > be able to store that information. Then when you later find a marriage > between a Mr Hardiker and a Miss Alston you can quickly find individuals > in your database that might be children of that marriage. [With the > software I use, I write "mmn Alston" in a searchable note field.] I use - -- for unkown people - Alston and - HARDIKER are what I would use in your example I also have many Mary - and John - the "-" looks better in trees than "Unknown" but still forces the creation of a box > It would also be nice to be able to store events that you can't yet > associate with a particular individual. You might come across a parish > register entry for the marriage of Mary Hardiker to Arthur Shuttleworth > which doesn't state her age, and have several entries for Mary Hardikers > who are of marriageable age who lived nearby. I use "before" baptiam or burial dates for births or deaths < I don't know if there's > any software that could store that information and then be able to > attach it to the right Mary Hardiker when you find out which one that is. > FTM 16 does - but manually of course Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:49:45 -0600, shmartonak@ticnet.com wrote: > Are any of the standard genealogy programs significantly better when it > comes to doing a one name study? > > For years I've happily used BrothersKeeper for my "regular" genealogy but > it seems to be of little value for a one name study. > > Of course I guess would help if I knew exactly what I want the program to > do for me other than just somehow making things easier. I use Legacy DeLuxe for my one name study as well as my one place study and normal research. Everything is kept in its own file so I can find things quickly and easily, no matter what it is. A one study, IMO, is little different from doing normal research. You just have a predominence of one name instead of dozens/hundreds of names.
On Feb 27, 5:49 pm, shmarto...@ticnet.com wrote: > Are any of the standard genealogy programs significantly better when it > comes to doing a one name study? > > For years I've happily used BrothersKeeper for my "regular" genealogy but > it seems to be of little value for a one name study. > > Of course I guess would help if I knew exactly what I want the program to > do for me other than just somehow making things easier. > > -- I have a one-name study on Brebner/Bremner and have found that using typical genealogy software such as BK is ideal for the creation of family trees (of which I have about 400), and using database software for the collection of events, such as births/christenings, marriage, deaths, census, gravestones etc. I use dbase IV (old but perfectly serviceable) as a database backend, which allows for sorting on any field criteria, such as maiden names, locations, dates and so-on. As an individual is linked to a family, the number assigned by the genealogy software is entered into each occurrence of that individual in the separate databases. I have about 25,000 births and a similar number of other events that are web-searchable via Mivascript. If a searched individual is linked to a genealogy, then the user has an option to view the descendency report in .pdf format. As the project progresses, and as genealogies are connected, it is a simple matter to replace the individual identifier number in all the databases to reflect the current relationships. Having ALL occurrences of a name listed in databases makes it much easier to see if there is duplication or omission in the corresponding family genealogies. Have a look at http://www.brebner.com to get an idea of the system. John I
shmartonak@ticnet.com wrote: > Are any of the standard genealogy programs significantly better when it > comes to doing a one name study? > > For years I've happily used BrothersKeeper for my "regular" genealogy but > it seems to be of little value for a one name study. > > Of course I guess would help if I knew exactly what I want the program to > do for me other than just somehow making things easier. I use FTM 16 for the data base I upload it to http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=lapham which leads to regular contacta I have a google alert running for LAPHAM which feeds me obituaries and more news and black sheep because rootsweb would not give me a third web space I used blogger for the web site # LAPHAM 1 links to LAPHAM sites around the world http://lapham36.blogspot.com/ # LAPHAM 2 sources and work done in the LAPHAM one-name study http://lapham2005.blogspot.com/ # LAPHAM 3 one-name study blog http://kilmington.blogspot.com/ I own Custodian but because it cannot export a gedcom I did not use it for more know how join http://www.one-name.org.uk/ which includes an exce3llent list too I was a memeber for a year but get more contacts from the web Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG
shmartonak@ticnet.com wrote: > Are any of the standard genealogy programs significantly better when it > comes to doing a one name study? > > For years I've happily used BrothersKeeper for my "regular" genealogy but > it seems to be of little value for a one name study. > > Of course I guess would help if I knew exactly what I want the program to > do for me other than just somehow making things easier. > > -- > > For my one name study I use Legacy and keep documents on web. So the web site is really my research database. Items found about people kept by year. Then I can have a page comparing events for people of same name. Hopefully to work out who is who. Of course there are not that many people spelling their name LANKSHEAR but even then surprising how many were called William or Robert. The is also specific database tools for large studies such as Custodian but there is Bygones which is free http://home.utah-inter.net/bygones/ Bygones Home Page: Genealogical Research Note-Keeping Freeware In a gedcom keeping program you might want one that will print or create a web site of everyone in the program not just ancestors or descendants of a selected person -- Ron Lankshear - Sydney Aust (from London- Shepherds Bush & Chiswick) http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~lankshear/