On 18/06/2011 18:06, Ian Goddard wrote: > Bob Melson wrote: >> Following the gramps-users mailing list, however, I do >> see that there's an "aio installer" for gramps 3.2.1 and will soon be one >> for 3.3.0. As I understand it, the "aio installer" installs everything >> needed to run gramps on a windows box. Keep in mind, however, that the >> foregoing is worth exactly what you paid for it. Further deponent saith >> not. > > And, FWIW, do you have a download link for that, Bob? It will be useful > if the attendees at next term's FH workshop can run the same > genealogical S/W as me without having to make the great leap from > darkness into light. In fact, I might even see if I can get the library > IT staff to install it on their machines. > Information on GrampsAIO at http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_Software_Bundle_for_Windows which leads to http://rapidshare.com/users/K65PY0 - which is a pain as, unless you have a RapidPro account, you have to wait a few minutes (why aren't they using sourceforge?). The versions are about 40 Mb downloads. Personally, I can't find anything special in Gramps which would make me want to use it - not even the price! I do not find it very intuitive or easy to use (but then I've only played with it for a couple of hours). It may be some operating systems have very little choice of genealogy programs so some users have to use Gramps? I've been happy to pay something for a good program which I knew I was going to use a lot over many years. I did an evaluation for my own use five or more years ago of most of the Windows programs then available and opted for The Master Genealogist (TMG). I've not regretted my decision as it has done just about all I've needed and has good support. The only other program I use very occasionally is Genbox, not for data entry, etc but because it has an "everyone" chart option not available in TMG v7 (Genbox has also not been updated for many years).

john wrote: > Personally, I can't find anything special in Gramps which would make me > want to use it - not even the price! I do not find it very intuitive or > easy to use (but then I've only played with it for a couple of hours). OK, there's one navigational issue which is a PITA and I've suggested changing it as a feature request. But I do use it a lot. > It may be some operating systems have very little choice of genealogy > programs so some users have to use Gramps? The other side of the coin is would I switch OS just to use some other genealogy program? Shudders.... -- Ian The Hotmail address is my spam-bin. Real mail address is iang at austonley org uk

On 18/06/2011 22:25, Ian Goddard wrote: > john wrote: >> Personally, I can't find anything special in Gramps which would make >> me want to use it - not even the price! I do not find it very >> intuitive or easy to use (but then I've only played with it for a >> couple of hours). > > OK, there's one navigational issue which is a PITA and I've suggested > changing it as a feature request. But I do use it a lot. > >> It may be some operating systems have very little choice of genealogy >> programs so some users have to use Gramps? > > The other side of the coin is would I switch OS just to use some other > genealogy program? Shudders.... > And the OP was using Family Tree Maker on Windows .......

On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:25:54 +0100, Ian Goddard wrote: > OK, there's one navigational issue which is a PITA and I've suggested > changing it as a feature request. But I do use it a lot. I find the entire program to be an unintuitive PITA. :) Todd