Steve Hayes <[email protected]> wrote: >On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:33:51 +0300, Renia <[email protected]> wrote: > >>As with the others, it wanted me to log in. As a subscriber to Ancestry, >>I logged in with what I thought was my Ancestry login. But it was the >>login for one particular tree which a correspondent had "invited" me to >>ages ago. I can't get away from this particular tree or search for any >>others. The only other option, is for me to start my own new family >>tree, which I will not do. > >Very wise. > >They keep urging you to enter you own tree and invite your family, and I will >do neither of those things because of the problems I see with their site, and >also because of their terms and conditions (which say you should not put any >content there unless you agree with them). > >But uou can, with much difficulty, get out of the place where they urge you to >enter your tree, and do some searches on the site. > >I'm not sure if Ancestry.com users know if their data is being used in this >way, but still. I haven't used Mundia, but I just looked at the Mundia FAQs from the standpoint of being such an ancestry.com user. So far as I can tell, it looks like it is just a new interface to allow non-ancestry-subscribers free access to the "Ancestry Public Trees", that I think are only searchable for subscribers, and allows them to build or upload trees as a subscriber can (though the functionality is pretty limited if they don't have the ancestry subscription that allows linking the tree to ancestry records). The result of putting up such a tree, so far as I can tell, is functionally not significantly different from uploading a tree to Rootsweb, which is also owned by ancestry. Rootsweb trees are of course accessible to non-ancestry subscribers via the rootsweb interface, and Mundia would appear to be an attempt to create the same sort of functionality for the ancestry public trees, probably on the assumption that the more people who do genealogy, the bigger the market for ancestry's paid services. The description to "green leaf" hints makes it pretty clear that this will work more or less the same way as the current ancestry public tree "hints" service, which works the same way that they describe (but also gives hint links into the ancestry databases). I can't imagine why an ancestry.com user would not want expect their public tree data to be used this way. That is, after all, the whole point of making the tree "public" since Ancestry also has the option of making a tree private, in which case only invited people can see it (the Mundia FAQ indicates that this will be the case within Mundia as well). It is also presumably why someone would upload their tree to Rootsweb. What you apparently cannot do with Mundia is create such private tree. Well, that is the tradeoff for getting the service for free. They seem to be adding some bells and whistles from the social media paradigm, which would update the rather barebones Rootsweb tree interface (though in many ways I prefer that old interface to the public tree "profiles" interface), and they allow someone to override the display of "living" people in a tree by making their profile (and apparently only theirs) visible in such trees. This seems like a pretty trivial and mostly useless change. Seeing me in a tree tells the typical person rather little of genealogical interest if my (living) parents, spouse, kids, and siblings, are kept hidden because they haven't enrolled. But it does fit with the social media aspect. I've heard that there is another social media site centered on genealogy (though I've never looked), and Mundia may merely be ancestry's attempt to compete with that site in addition to making their public trees as available as their rootsweb trees. (Their claimed 2.5 billion profiles almost certainly includes rootsweb trees as well as ancestry public trees, so perhaps those are being more fully integrated into the new service than they currently are in ancestry). lojbab --- Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist [email protected] Lojban language www.lojban.org

On 06-16-2011 14:45, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > I've heard that there is another social media site centered on > genealogy (though I've never looked), and Mundia may merely be geni.com -- Wes Groleau There are two types of people in the world … http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett?itemid=1157

On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:58:44 -0400, Wes Groleau <[email protected]> wrote: >On 06-16-2011 14:45, Bob LeChevalier wrote: >> I've heard that there is another social media site centered on >> genealogy (though I've never looked), and Mundia may merely be > >geni.com And MyHeritage -- Steve Hayes Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/ http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/