On 01-02-2013 21:49, singhals wrote: > Otherwhere, the question was raised of how to indicate that between a > person's divorce from Spouse A and the marriage to Spouse B, the person > had a sex-change procedure. > > Does ANY genealogy program presently known to exist allow for such an > occurrence? If so, please share the name of that program and where to > find it. 0 @P123@ 1 NAME John /Doe/ 2 DATE BEF 1980 1 NAME Jane /Doe/ 2 DATE AFT 1980 1 SEX M 2 DATE BEF 1980 1 SEX F 2 DATE AFT 1980 :-) How webtrees handles it: http://unigen.us/individual.php?pid=P2703&ged=HHH How WorldConnect handles it: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=wgroleau&id=P2703 -- Wes Groleau “Lewis's case for the existence of God is fallacious.” "You mean like circular reasoning?” “He believes in God. Therefore, he's fallacious."

On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 21:49:28 -0500, singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote: >Otherwhere, the question was raised of how to indicate that >between a person's divorce from Spouse A and the marriage to >Spouse B, the person had a sex-change procedure. > >Does ANY genealogy program presently known to exist allow >for such an occurrence? If so, please share the name of >that program and where to find it. > >Thanks. > >Cheryl You might have to perform a little surgery on the program you use. Hugh

Otherwhere, the question was raised of how to indicate that between a person's divorce from Spouse A and the marriage to Spouse B, the person had a sex-change procedure. Does ANY genealogy program presently known to exist allow for such an occurrence? If so, please share the name of that program and where to find it. Thanks. Cheryl

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:55:22 -0000, "Trevor Rix" <trevor@trevorrix.co.uk> wrote in soc.genealogy.computing: >That's what you may get with Ancestry new search. Use old search and >exact for exact results. Point to Search, click Search All Records, click >Go To Old Search top right. Old search is way better than new search! I don't subscribe to Ancestry so use it only when I go to my local genealogical society, about once a month... But how can I made a search for names with variations, i.e. I would accept Adam and Adams. On other search sites, I have usually that possibility. PRDH and Fichier Lafrance on www.genealogiequebec.com (Quebec records) allows to search with standardized names, not soundex but names as read are standardized and when you search for example ADAMS, it can be standardized to ADAM and if a record has ADAME it would be also standardized as ADAM so that ADAMS will find ADAME. The ancestry search finds too many unrelated names. Nonetheless, I will try that old search the next time. France's geneabank has a similar feature. Denis -- Denis Beauregard - généalogiste émérite (FQSG) Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - www.francogene.com/genealogie--quebec/ French in North America before 1722 - www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/ Sur cédérom à 1780 - On CD-ROM to 1780

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 18:23:32 +1100, Robert G Eldridge <robert.eldridge@hunterlink.net.au> wrote in soc.genealogy.computing: >On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 14:59:44 +1100, "Di Maloney" <sascar@tpg.com.au> >wrote: > >>My cousin doesn't have Professional - and she had no trouble at all. > >The Digger CDs will install and run OK in Windows 7 provided it's the >32 bit version (as distinct from the 64 bit version) so your cousin >may be using the 32 bit version. I understand now which I shouldn't have that 64-bit Windows 7... I already have trouble with the French version (main directories have an English name when reading the directory under the DOS Prompt but a French name from the Windows explorer, i.e. "pictures" is "Mes Images". Now that I could eventually run some old softwares if I was under the 32 bit version... Perhaps my good old DOS compiler ? And I am trying to backup my computer which has more that 3 millions of files (I kept many copies of the CD-ROM I sell and it has 100,000 files in each release). Windows Explorer can't do the job and I just find that some files have a bit "not readable by everybody" so I have to detect them manually to correct that so I could use XCOPY. I am trying to backup my computer, it copied files overnight but I have to restart it again since some files weren't copied... Denis -- Denis Beauregard - généalogiste émérite (FQSG) Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - www.francogene.com/genealogie--quebec/ French in North America before 1722 - www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/ Sur cédérom à 1780 - On CD-ROM to 1780

So that's why it wont go on mine, thank you. Di "Robert G Eldridge" <robert.eldridge@hunterlink.net.au> wrote in message news:8snad8lvikqs29l6rerbcakhu0diq2bi2c@4ax.com... > On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 14:59:44 +1100, "Di Maloney" <sascar@tpg.com.au> > wrote: > >>My cousin doesn't have Professional - and she had no trouble at all. > > The Digger CDs will install and run OK in Windows 7 provided it's the > 32 bit version (as distinct from the 64 bit version) so your cousin > may be using the 32 bit version. > > -- > Robert G. Eldridge Toronto NSW Australia > http://www.eldridgegenealogy.org > Now researching ELDRIDGE families world wide > 1000s at my Web site *Wanted* Any Eldridge related information > > This newsgroup post is not an invitation to reply by email.

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 14:59:44 +1100, "Di Maloney" <sascar@tpg.com.au> wrote: >My cousin doesn't have Professional - and she had no trouble at all. The Digger CDs will install and run OK in Windows 7 provided it's the 32 bit version (as distinct from the 64 bit version) so your cousin may be using the 32 bit version. -- Robert G. Eldridge Toronto NSW Australia http://www.eldridgegenealogy.org Now researching ELDRIDGE families world wide 1000s at my Web site *Wanted* Any Eldridge related information This newsgroup post is not an invitation to reply by email.

My cousin doesn't have Professional - and she had no trouble at all. Di "Denis Beauregard" <denis.b-at-francogene.com@fr.invalid> wrote in message news:t96ad8hbus1trg3dbisc4ruc3le77akthp@4ax.com... > On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:58:33 +1100, "Di Maloney" <sascar@tpg.com.au> > wrote in soc.genealogy.computing: > >>There is a feature in Windows 7 to enable you to install older programs - >>I >>have XP on this computer but my cousin has used this feature to install >>her >>Aust Digger series CDs. > > Windows professional only. > > But there are stuff like Virtual Box (which I failed to install > anyway). > > > Denis > > -- > Denis Beauregard - généalogiste émérite (FQSG) > Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - www.francogene.com/genealogie--quebec/ > French in North America before 1722 - > www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/ > Sur cédérom à 1780 - On CD-ROM to 1780

It doesn't work on my laptop - darn it. Di "Brian" <drmorrisnospam@comcast.net> wrote in message news:2u7ad850jt0c1rar6m9pao1eh7hf2akj2v@4ax.com... > On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:58:33 +1100, "Di Maloney" <sascar@tpg.com.au> > wrote: > >>There is a feature in Windows 7 to enable you to install older programs - >>I >>have XP on this computer but my cousin has used this feature to install >>her >>Aust Digger series CDs. >> >>Di > > Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

Trevor Try Find My Past far superior indexes and they are free to search - you only pay for the images .... Regards Bill -----Original Message----- From: gencmp-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gencmp-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Trevor Rix Sent: 22 December 2012 10:55 To: gencmp@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Using old FTM CD data set Charlie Hoffpauir wrote: > I have a set of old CDs from way back when I used FTM that consists of > marriage indexes for many states. I don't remember exactly how they > were used, but I think they could be used without actually having FTM > installed. You need the Family Archive Viewer download from http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/abtffiv.html > And I've been using Ancestry, but their search engine is so poor that > I get MANY ridiculous hits, like looking for births in the 1820's and > getting people in the 1900's. That's what you may get with Ancestry new search. Use old search and exact for exact results. Point to Search, click Search All Records, click Go To Old Search top right. Old search is way better than new search! Trevor Rix ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENCMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a feature in Windows 7 to enable you to install older programs - I have XP on this computer but my cousin has used this feature to install her Aust Digger series CDs. Di "Charlie Hoffpauir" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message news:5ai9d8pqcbav123spai7fekdim0na6ff3v@4ax.com... >I have a set of old CDs from way back when I used FTM that consists of > marriage indexes for many states. I don't remember exactly how they > were used, but I think they could be used without actually having FTM > installed. When I try to load a CD using the install.exe on the CD, I > get a message that the program isn't compatible with this version of > windows (I"m running Win 7 64 bit). Does anyone remember what it takes > to access these CDs? Any way to get at the actual data without using > the FTM program? > > In case it's important, the files on the CD are: > CDINFO.CTL 2,155 > DATA.DIR 13,487 > DATA.INX 18,713,614 > DATA.QLF 32,768 > DATA.TRI 33,360 > DATA.TRT 4,640,670 > INSTALL.EXE 71,317 > LICENSE.TXT 5,930 > > and a couple of directories called CATALOG and GRS > > TIA > > Charlie

Charlie Hoffpauir wrote: > I have a set of old CDs from way back when I used FTM that consists of > marriage indexes for many states. I don't remember exactly how they > were used, but I think they could be used without actually having FTM > installed. You need the Family Archive Viewer download from http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/abtffiv.html > And I've been using Ancestry, but their search engine is so poor that > I get MANY ridiculous hits, like looking for births in the 1820's and > getting people in the 1900's. That's what you may get with Ancestry new search. Use old search and exact for exact results. Point to Search, click Search All Records, click Go To Old Search top right. Old search is way better than new search! Trevor Rix

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:55:22 -0000, "Trevor Rix" <trevor@trevorrix.co.uk> wrote: >Charlie Hoffpauir wrote: > >> I have a set of old CDs from way back when I used FTM that consists of >> marriage indexes for many states. I don't remember exactly how they >> were used, but I think they could be used without actually having FTM >> installed. > >You need the Family Archive Viewer download from > >http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/abtffiv.html > >> And I've been using Ancestry, but their search engine is so poor that >> I get MANY ridiculous hits, like looking for births in the 1820's and >> getting people in the 1900's. > >That's what you may get with Ancestry new search. Use old search and >exact for exact results. Point to Search, click Search All Records, click >Go To Old Search top right. Old search is way better than new search! > >Trevor Rix Thanks Trevor, I'll give that a try.

Charlie Hoffpauir wrote: > Ancestry has stated that they no longer support the family archive CDs > as they claim that the information is on their databases. Which, give or take the indexing issues, is fine if you have an Ancestry subscription. If you don't then it's a matter of the now-traditional media industry standard of expecting the customer to pay again and again for the same data. I had some CD with local data on it encoded with a propitiatory format which was Windows specific. I now use Linux almost all the time. I had two options open. One was to use Windows in a virtual machine and the other to run in Wine. I forget which worked for me but in your case only a VM would be available. If your disks are anything like mine once you have the data accessible it just looks like a normal text file in which case you can copy & paste the relevant excerpts into a real text file. It's an annoyance and it requires you to have a copy of an old Windows version to run in the VM but you only have to do it once. This, of course, assumes that you are in a country where you're actually allowed to do this with a copy of data you've already paid for. -- Ian The Hotmail address is my spam-bin. Real mail address is iang at austonley org uk

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:58:33 +1100, "Di Maloney" <sascar@tpg.com.au> wrote: >There is a feature in Windows 7 to enable you to install older programs - I >have XP on this computer but my cousin has used this feature to install her >Aust Digger series CDs. > >Di Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:58:33 +1100, "Di Maloney" <sascar@tpg.com.au> wrote in soc.genealogy.computing: >There is a feature in Windows 7 to enable you to install older programs - I >have XP on this computer but my cousin has used this feature to install her >Aust Digger series CDs. Windows professional only. But there are stuff like Virtual Box (which I failed to install anyway). Denis -- Denis Beauregard - généalogiste émérite (FQSG) Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - www.francogene.com/genealogie--quebec/ French in North America before 1722 - www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/ Sur cédérom à 1780 - On CD-ROM to 1780

On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:54:03 -0600, Charlie Hoffpauir <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >I have a set of old CDs from way back when I used FTM that consists of >marriage indexes for many states. I don't remember exactly how they >were used, but I think they could be used without actually having FTM >installed. When I try to load a CD using the install.exe on the CD, I >get a message that the program isn't compatible with this version of >windows (I"m running Win 7 64 bit). Does anyone remember what it takes >to access these CDs? Any way to get at the actual data without using >the FTM program? > >In case it's important, the files on the CD are: >CDINFO.CTL 2,155 >DATA.DIR 13,487 >DATA.INX 18,713,614 >DATA.QLF 32,768 >DATA.TRI 33,360 >DATA.TRT 4,640,670 >INSTALL.EXE 71,317 >LICENSE.TXT 5,930 > >and a couple of directories called CATALOG and GRS > >TIA > >Charlie Well, Google searching has yielded this bit of information, posted back in 2009: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Ancestry has stated that they no longer support the family archive CDs as they claim that the information is on their databases. I suggest you go to the FTM Knowledge base at http://ftm.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ftm.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.... and in the keyword search, look for article 5073 There are a couple of links there that take you back into the old FTM knowledge base. You may end up having to set up a Windows XP or Windows 98 computer and use the Family Archive Viewer. ------------------------------------------------------------------ I do have the means to get an old computer and OS up, but want to avoid that if possible. And I've been using Ancestry, but their search engine is so poor that I get MANY ridiculous hits, like looking for births in the 1820's and getting people in the 1900's.

I have a set of old CDs from way back when I used FTM that consists of marriage indexes for many states. I don't remember exactly how they were used, but I think they could be used without actually having FTM installed. When I try to load a CD using the install.exe on the CD, I get a message that the program isn't compatible with this version of windows (I"m running Win 7 64 bit). Does anyone remember what it takes to access these CDs? Any way to get at the actual data without using the FTM program? In case it's important, the files on the CD are: CDINFO.CTL 2,155 DATA.DIR 13,487 DATA.INX 18,713,614 DATA.QLF 32,768 DATA.TRI 33,360 DATA.TRT 4,640,670 INSTALL.EXE 71,317 LICENSE.TXT 5,930 and a couple of directories called CATALOG and GRS TIA Charlie

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:58:13 -0500, Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote: >On 12-19-2012 10:57, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote: >> Why do you keep every paper? I record the info and source in my >> program and discard the paper. I hasten to add I don't have originals. >> I'm not in the business of doing the research of others for them. I'll >> give them fact and source - if they want to check, have at it. I have >> every fact and source that I have found for VA and NC recorded by >> State year and county on about 30 computer pages, single spaced. Why >> do I need to pack rat the source they were copied from? > >I do a full transcription of anything that _might_ be useful, and if the >source is handwritten or poor quality, I keep a scan of it. > >There is a copy embedded in my website and my local copy has a daily backup. > >All of these I can find when I need them. There is a lot of paper >copies that I haven't thrown away (yet) but find them I cannot. It is my presumption, right or wrong, that is the situation for most people who find it impossible to draw a clear distinction between essential and non-essential. > Guidelines for judging others: > 1. Don't attribute to malice that which > can be adequately explained by stupidity. > 2. Don't attribute to stupidity that which > can be adequately explained by ignorance. > 3. Don't attribute to ignorance that which > can be adequately explained by misunderstanding. > 4. Don't attribute to misunderstanding that which > can be adequately explained by alcohol. Thanks for that. But, when I repeat it no one will ever know where it came from. It's on a paper somewhere that I can't find. Hugh

On 12-19-2012 10:57, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote: > Why do you keep every paper? I record the info and source in my > program and discard the paper. I hasten to add I don't have originals. > I'm not in the business of doing the research of others for them. I'll > give them fact and source - if they want to check, have at it. I have > every fact and source that I have found for VA and NC recorded by > State year and county on about 30 computer pages, single spaced. Why > do I need to pack rat the source they were copied from? I do a full transcription of anything that _might_ be useful, and if the source is handwritten or poor quality, I keep a scan of it. There is a copy embedded in my website and my local copy has a daily backup. All of these I can find when I need them. There is a lot of paper copies that I haven't thrown away (yet) but find them I cannot. -- Wes Groleau Guidelines for judging others: 1. Don't attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. 2. Don't attribute to stupidity that which can be adequately explained by ignorance. 3. Don't attribute to ignorance that which can be adequately explained by misunderstanding. 4. Don't attribute to misunderstanding that which can be adequately explained by alcohol.