Many thanks Tim, Lesley and Jeff for the assistance. It is very much appreciated. Maud "Jeff" <jorg826@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eZQMi.117055$Pd4.93057@edtnps82... > Maud Flink wrote: >> I created certain folders on Outlook Express in order to save some >> important messages. >> >> I am not sure whether I inadvertently deleted the folder, but I don't >> recall doing this. Is there some way that I can retrieve my information? >> >> Many thanks >> Maud > You may have created it as a sub-folder which isn't showing (this is quite > common). > > For instance, double click on INBOX and if there are sub folders they will > show. Repeat the process for all your other folders.

Charlie Hoffpauir wrote: > On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:12:20 GMT, Wes Groleau > <groleau+news@freeshell.org> wrote: > >> Charlie Hoffpauir wrote: >>> I'm looking for software, preferable a small (free or inexpensive) >>> program that will generate a pedigree chart that is interactive...... >>> >>> The intended use of this software is that a copy be included on the CD >>> that my family association distributes. I've found that many of the >>> family cousins buy the CD for the family information it provides, but >>> don't have the technical computer knowledge to get everything that is >>> available on the CD. So I'm looking at a simple way to allow people to >>> "browse" through the family lines without having to use a real >>> genealogy program. >> I haven't tried it, but if you don't mind a Windows-only item, >> you might get the PhpGedView CD version. Supposedly it is >> self-contained, having Apache, PHP, MySQL, and PhpGedView in >> the image. If you can mount the image, add your GEDCOM, and >> make a new image, ..... > > Wes, > > Thatks for that suggestion. I've searched, but can't find any link to > a CD. Is it available somewhere as an image to download, or do you > have information on where I can order it if it's only available via > order? > CH: Try http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=55456 and scroll down to pane 1 - under PhpGedView v4.1.1 The first entry... The demo can be run from your hard drive or a CD. Nothing to install. As noted by others, PGV is nice, but maybe a bit tough for non-computer people. But judge that for yourself. Paul

Charlie Hoffpauir wrote: > Thatks for that suggestion. I've searched, but can't find any link to > a CD. Is it available somewhere as an image to download, or do you > have information on where I can order it if it's only available via > order? http://wiki.phpgedview.net/en/index.php/Download Look for Windows Demo (the name confirms my suspicion regarding O.S.) If you're _really_ brave, you could probably fiddle with the PHP to make some functions unavailable, and remove them from the menus, thereby simplifying the package. -- Wes Groleau There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them. -- George Orwell

Robert Melson wrote: > Dave Hinz <DaveHinz@gmail.com> writes: >> On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:12:20 GMT, Wes Groleau <groleau+news@freeshell.org> wrote: >> >>> I haven't tried it, but if you don't mind a Windows-only item, >>> you might get the PhpGedView CD version. Supposedly it is >>> self-contained, having Apache, PHP, MySQL, and PhpGedView in >>> the image. If you can mount the image, add your GEDCOM, and >>> make a new image, ..... > >> PhpGedView runs quite well under OS's other than Windows. But the no-install run-from-CD version doesn't. (I think) > I think Wes missed the OP saying he's running Linux. I haven't What the OP is running (I assumed) is irrelevant because he's looking for something he can include on a CD to send to non-geeky relatives. (Even the version I mentioned might be a little too geeky for some folks) -- Wes Groleau http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~wgroleau/Wes

"Maud Flink" <natco@globesky.com> wrote in message news:luGdnf8rzch0IJ7anZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@saix.net... >I created certain folders on Outlook Express in order to save some >important messages. > > I am not sure whether I inadvertently deleted the folder, but I don't > recall doing this. Is there some way that I can retrieve my information? > Maud, You should actually be looking for files, not folders. Each "folder" is to be found in a *.dbx file. If you haven't already done so - do a file/folder search for *.dbx over all your hard disks. If that does not turn up the files that you are looking for, then you may still not have lost everything. It could be worth your while downloading a trial copy of Search and Recover from http://www.iolo.com/sr/4/download.aspx. I seem to remember that the trial version will do a full search, tell you if it has found traces of the relevant *.dbx file(s), and indicate the chances of full recovery. However, to actually recover the file(s) may cost you the price of a full version (US$39.95). HTH, -- Tim S. (please delete myfairlyobviousspamtrap if you wish to reply directly)

Charlie Hoffpauir <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > I'm looking for software, preferable a small (free or inexpensive) > program that will generate a pedigree chart that is interactive. > Ideally, I'd like something that works just like the pedigree chart > that was included in GEDCOM Explorer version 2.02.11d. This program > generated a pedigree chart from your GEDCOM file. What initially shows > on the screen is a 5 generation pedigree. However, click on any name > in the chart, and the screen (instantly) displays a 5 generation chart > for that individual. In GEDX 2.02.1d there were no options available > for this chart, but I think Gary intended to add them with later > revisions. The chart as provided lists the name, birth date, marriage > date, death date and locations for each. It also lists all the > children for the person in the #1 position on the chart. Ideally, I'd > like more options.... > > The intended use of this software is that a copy be included on the CD > that my family association distributes. I've found that many of the > family cousins buy the CD for the family information it provides, but > don't have the technical computer knowledge to get everything that is > available on the CD. So I'm looking at a simple way to allow people to > "browse" through the family lines without having to use a real > genealogy program. > > My thought is that Gary didn't actually "program" all that went into > GEDX 2.02.11d, particularly the chart generating capabilites that are > missing in earlier versions of GEDX. Rather I think he simply added > some charting package(s)... so my guess is that there is other > software "out there" with similar capabilities... at least I hope so. Another contender is Dynamic Family Tree (Dftg). Have a look at my website http://www.wonk.demon.co.uk/ under genealogy. Can't remember their URL; try Google. -- Thanks and regards, Shane. "A closed mouth gathers no feet!" Email: Beware the invalid word! shane at wonk dot demon dot co dot uk Website: http://www.wonk.demon.co.uk/

"Charlie Hoffpauir" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message news:hmb7g390rbqvq8qu282ug6q8m4t3blaa3i@4ax.com... > I'm looking for software, preferable a small (free or inexpensive) > program that will generate a pedigree chart that is interactive. > Ideally, I'd like something that works just like the pedigree chart > that was included in GEDCOM Explorer version 2.02.11d. This program > generated a pedigree chart from your GEDCOM file. What initially shows > on the screen is a 5 generation pedigree. However, click on any name > in the chart, and the screen (instantly) displays a 5 generation chart > for that individual. In GEDX 2.02.1d there were no options available > for this chart, but I think Gary intended to add them with later > revisions. The chart as provided lists the name, birth date, marriage > date, death date and locations for each. It also lists all the > children for the person in the #1 position on the chart. Ideally, I'd > like more options.... > > The intended use of this software is that a copy be included on the CD > that my family association distributes. I've found that many of the > family cousins buy the CD for the family information it provides, but > don't have the technical computer knowledge to get everything that is > available on the CD. So I'm looking at a simple way to allow people to > "browse" through the family lines without having to use a real > genealogy program. > > My thought is that Gary didn't actually "program" all that went into > GEDX 2.02.11d, particularly the chart generating capabilites that are > missing in earlier versions of GEDX. Rather I think he simply added > some charting package(s)... so my guess is that there is other > software "out there" with similar capabilities... at least I hope so. > > -- > Charlie Hoffpauir Take a look at Mudcreek Software GENviewer. http://www.mudcreeksoftware.com/index.htm There is also a free lite version and a free CD-Rom version. Kevin

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"Maud Flink" <natco@globesky.com> wrote in message news:luGdnf8rzch0IJ7anZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@saix.net... >I created certain folders on Outlook Express in order to save some >important messages. > > I am not sure whether I inadvertently deleted the folder, but I don't > recall doing this. Is there some way that I can retrieve my information? > If you think you've deleted it, have a look in the recycle bin (unless you'e emptied it recently). Lesley Robertson

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:12:20 GMT, Wes Groleau <groleau+news@freeshell.org> wrote: >Charlie Hoffpauir wrote: >> I'm looking for software, preferable a small (free or inexpensive) >> program that will generate a pedigree chart that is interactive...... >> >> The intended use of this software is that a copy be included on the CD >> that my family association distributes. I've found that many of the >> family cousins buy the CD for the family information it provides, but >> don't have the technical computer knowledge to get everything that is >> available on the CD. So I'm looking at a simple way to allow people to >> "browse" through the family lines without having to use a real >> genealogy program. > >I haven't tried it, but if you don't mind a Windows-only item, >you might get the PhpGedView CD version. Supposedly it is >self-contained, having Apache, PHP, MySQL, and PhpGedView in >the image. If you can mount the image, add your GEDCOM, and >make a new image, ..... Wes, Thatks for that suggestion. I've searched, but can't find any link to a CD. Is it available somewhere as an image to download, or do you have information on where I can order it if it's only available via order? -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 05:46:57 -0000, melsonr@aragorn.rgmhome.net (Robert Melson) wrote: >In article <5mj4vqFdpaviU1@mid.individual.net>, > Dave Hinz <DaveHinz@gmail.com> writes: >> On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:12:20 GMT, Wes Groleau <groleau+news@freeshell.org> wrote: >> >>> I haven't tried it, but if you don't mind a Windows-only item, >>> you might get the PhpGedView CD version. Supposedly it is >>> self-contained, having Apache, PHP, MySQL, and PhpGedView in >>> the image. If you can mount the image, add your GEDCOM, and >>> make a new image, ..... >> >> PhpGedView runs quite well under OS's other than Windows. >> > >I think Wes missed the OP saying he's running Linux. I haven't >looked at the CD version of phpGedView he mentions, but I wouldn't >be surprised if there were not something like that exclusively for >Gates' Universal Computer Virus. That notwithstanding, I would >rank my recommendations as (1) Gramps, (2) pGV+apache+php+MySQL, >(3) genj, (4) lifelines + gdbi-ll. Gramps because it's an easy >install using rpm, pGV because it's a damned nice program and >getting nicer as John Finley and crew refine it, the latter two >because they're interesting. I like FTree but wouldn't recommend >it because it appears to me to be at end of life or near it and >it really doesn't have a good reporting structure. > >Swell Ol' Bob Hmm, Either your newsreader is screwing up the messages, or you're replying to the wrong thread. I mentioned GEDX (GEDCOM Explorer) in my original post in this thread, and it's a Windows program, now almost useless because of the sudden death of it's developer, Gary Bonham. I mentioned Linux in another thread where another OP was asking for a genealogy program that runs under Linux. Perhaps you got the two threads crosslinked? I do appreciate the comments about pGV... I'll be looking into that. -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

Robert Melson wrote: > In article <pan.2007.10.03.18.45.57@gmail.com>, > John Aldrich <maxxexcaliber@gmail.com> writes: >> I was thinking of trying to pick up where my mom left of several years ago >> when she passed away. I much prefer linux to Windows, not to mention my >> wife gripes if I try to install anything on "her" PC, so I was wondering >> if there is any good software out there like Family Tree Maker? > > John, > > As you might expect, there aren't a lot of native *ix > genealogy applications out in the wild. Gramps is about the > fullest featured or your can do > lifelines + gdbi-ll; lifelines is a strictly textmode/curses-based > application, while gdbi-ll is a BrothersKeeper-like graphic > frontend for ll. Advantage of ll is is reports and the scripting > language they're written in - gives almost infinite possibilities > for whatever reports you want. > > If you want to get a bit more complicated, look into the combination > of Apache + MySql + phpGedView - all opensource, all free, a bit more > difficult to load/configure/maintain but not outrageously so. A > shareware alternative to phpGedView is The Next Generation. > > If you're really a masochist, you can install a Windows emulator > such as Wine on your machine and run just about any of the current > crop of apps for Gates Universal Computer Virus. > > HTH, > Bob Melson > Just to add my 2c to Bob's comment. I'd never seen/used Linux until recently. After a few false starts, I got it running, added Gramps, then Apache etc and phpGedView. I had done all these things before with XAMPP and IIS (separately) so had a bit of background. But, even so, you will be as adequately served for genie work in Linux as you are in Windows - just less bad software to try! Paul

In article <5mj4vqFdpaviU1@mid.individual.net>, Dave Hinz <DaveHinz@gmail.com> writes: > On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:12:20 GMT, Wes Groleau <groleau+news@freeshell.org> wrote: > >> I haven't tried it, but if you don't mind a Windows-only item, >> you might get the PhpGedView CD version. Supposedly it is >> self-contained, having Apache, PHP, MySQL, and PhpGedView in >> the image. If you can mount the image, add your GEDCOM, and >> make a new image, ..... > > PhpGedView runs quite well under OS's other than Windows. > I think Wes missed the OP saying he's running Linux. I haven't looked at the CD version of phpGedView he mentions, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were not something like that exclusively for Gates' Universal Computer Virus. That notwithstanding, I would rank my recommendations as (1) Gramps, (2) pGV+apache+php+MySQL, (3) genj, (4) lifelines + gdbi-ll. Gramps because it's an easy install using rpm, pGV because it's a damned nice program and getting nicer as John Finley and crew refine it, the latter two because they're interesting. I like FTree but wouldn't recommend it because it appears to me to be at end of life or near it and it really doesn't have a good reporting structure. Swell Ol' Bob -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas ----- "People unfit for freedom---who cannot do much with it---are hungry for power." ---Eric Hoffer

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:12:20 GMT, Wes Groleau <groleau+news@freeshell.org> wrote: > I haven't tried it, but if you don't mind a Windows-only item, > you might get the PhpGedView CD version. Supposedly it is > self-contained, having Apache, PHP, MySQL, and PhpGedView in > the image. If you can mount the image, add your GEDCOM, and > make a new image, ..... PhpGedView runs quite well under OS's other than Windows.

Charlie Hoffpauir wrote: > I'm looking for software, preferable a small (free or inexpensive) > program that will generate a pedigree chart that is interactive...... > > The intended use of this software is that a copy be included on the CD > that my family association distributes. I've found that many of the > family cousins buy the CD for the family information it provides, but > don't have the technical computer knowledge to get everything that is > available on the CD. So I'm looking at a simple way to allow people to > "browse" through the family lines without having to use a real > genealogy program. I haven't tried it, but if you don't mind a Windows-only item, you might get the PhpGedView CD version. Supposedly it is self-contained, having Apache, PHP, MySQL, and PhpGedView in the image. If you can mount the image, add your GEDCOM, and make a new image, ..... -- Wes Groleau He that complies against his will is of the same opinion still. -- Samuel Butler, 1612-1680

On 2007-10-03, Charlie Hoffpauir <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:45:57 +0000, John Aldrich ><maxxexcaliber@gmail.com> wrote: > >>I was thinking of trying to pick up where my mom left of several years ago >>when she passed away. I much prefer linux to Windows, not to mention my >>wife gripes if I try to install anything on "her" PC, so I was wondering >>if there is any good software out there like Family Tree Maker? > > If you like Family Tree maker, then probably anything will look good > to you. Admittedly, software especially for Linux is pretty sparse. > I'd say your best bet would be to try Gramps. Of course, it's possible > to run a Windows genealogy program under Linux, I know several people > do, I just don't know the details of how that's done. Gramps is quite a decent program, from what I have seen of it. While a lot of people don't think much of PAF, it does run quite well under Wine. If perhaps you want details, the AppDB page is at http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1706 -- Robert Riches spamtrap42@verizon.net (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

In article <13g7rdjnm81rfdb@corp.supernews.com>, melsonr@aragorn.rgmhome.net (Robert Melson) writes: > In article <pan.2007.10.03.18.45.57@gmail.com>, > John Aldrich <maxxexcaliber@gmail.com> writes: >> I was thinking of trying to pick up where my mom left of several years ago >> when she passed away. I much prefer linux to Windows, not to mention my >> wife gripes if I try to install anything on "her" PC, so I was wondering >> if there is any good software out there like Family Tree Maker? > > John, > > As you might expect, there aren't a lot of native *ix > genealogy applications out in the wild. Gramps is about the > fullest featured or your can do > lifelines + gdbi-ll; lifelines is a strictly textmode/curses-based > application, while gdbi-ll is a BrothersKeeper-like graphic > frontend for ll. Advantage of ll is is reports and the scripting > language they're written in - gives almost infinite possibilities > for whatever reports you want. > > If you want to get a bit more complicated, look into the combination > of Apache + MySql + phpGedView - all opensource, all free, a bit more > difficult to load/configure/maintain but not outrageously so. A > shareware alternative to phpGedView is The Next Generation. > > If you're really a masochist, you can install a Windows emulator > such as Wine on your machine and run just about any of the current > crop of apps for Gates Universal Computer Virus. > > HTH, > Bob Melson > Ummm. Forgot to mention genj, which is a pure java - and very idiosyncratic - genealogy app available through the same folks that offer gdbi. Also, there's the by-now-ancient FTree, which offers limited reporting but a nice presentation of your tree; data entry/editing is moderately easy, but there aren't many bells and whistles. Bob Melson -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas ----- "People unfit for freedom---who cannot do much with it---are hungry for power." ---Eric Hoffer

In article <pan.2007.10.03.18.45.57@gmail.com>, John Aldrich <maxxexcaliber@gmail.com> writes: > I was thinking of trying to pick up where my mom left of several years ago > when she passed away. I much prefer linux to Windows, not to mention my > wife gripes if I try to install anything on "her" PC, so I was wondering > if there is any good software out there like Family Tree Maker? John, As you might expect, there aren't a lot of native *ix genealogy applications out in the wild. Gramps is about the fullest featured or your can do lifelines + gdbi-ll; lifelines is a strictly textmode/curses-based application, while gdbi-ll is a BrothersKeeper-like graphic frontend for ll. Advantage of ll is is reports and the scripting language they're written in - gives almost infinite possibilities for whatever reports you want. If you want to get a bit more complicated, look into the combination of Apache + MySql + phpGedView - all opensource, all free, a bit more difficult to load/configure/maintain but not outrageously so. A shareware alternative to phpGedView is The Next Generation. If you're really a masochist, you can install a Windows emulator such as Wine on your machine and run just about any of the current crop of apps for Gates Universal Computer Virus. HTH, Bob Melson -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas ----- "People unfit for freedom---who cannot do much with it---are hungry for power." ---Eric Hoffer

I was thinking of trying to pick up where my mom left of several years ago when she passed away. I much prefer linux to Windows, not to mention my wife gripes if I try to install anything on "her" PC, so I was wondering if there is any good software out there like Family Tree Maker?

Maud Flink wrote: > I created certain folders on Outlook Express in order to save some important > messages. > > I am not sure whether I inadvertently deleted the folder, but I don't recall > doing this. Is there some way that I can retrieve my information? > > Many thanks > Maud > > You may have created it as a sub-folder which isn't showing (this is quite common). For instance, double click on INBOX and if there are sub folders they will show. Repeat the process for all your other folders.