On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:45:45 -0400, Jim Elbrecht <elbrecht@email.com> wrote: >I don't seem to be having any luck finding recent discussions of this- >so I'll throw this out and see if there is a better way. > >I use Steed's Brother's Keeper and recently started using a laptop. at >some point I added some data to my desktop -- then I added some to my >laptop. Now I'm not sure what I added to either. >[and somewhere along the line I must have unchecked 'put changes in >bkaudit.txt file' in BK's options, so I can't go that way] I know it's too late in your case, but I avoid such problems by tansferring my data from desktop to laptop and back again. I originally used floppy disks, then stiffies, then a Zip disk, now a flash drive. A simple batch file does it. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:45:26 -0700, "Maud" <natco@globesky.com> wrote: >I did backups of all my families on the Legacy 6.0 program and today when I >attempted to transfer the zip files on to my new computer, I was unable to >do so. I get a message stating : > >"you are trying to open a Legacy Family File that requires a newer build of >Legacy" > >I am quite happy with my program as is. I require advice please. It sounds like you have an older version of Legacy on your new computer. You should first get the latest Legacy update and then try "restoring" using the backup (.zip) that you copied to your new pc. -- Dennis

I did backups of all my families on the Legacy 6.0 program and today when I attempted to transfer the zip files on to my new computer, I was unable to do so. I get a message stating : "you are trying to open a Legacy Family File that requires a newer build of Legacy" I am quite happy with my program as is. I require advice please. Many thanks, Maud Flink

Jim Elbrecht wrote: > Is there something that will look at the 2 gedcoms- and say 'you added > info to person 3800' or 'you added person #3892', or 'deleted #16'? I have a program that will split up the GEDCOM, putting each level zero record into a file name after its xref ID. Then you can do a 'diff -rq' to find out which records differ or are added/deleted. BUT this won't work if the xref IDs are renumbered by the program on output. GIM has a pretty good comparison function that finds similar records by the actual data (birthdays, similar relatives, etc) -- Wes Groleau Alive and Well http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.com/~wgroleau/

singhals <singhals@erols.com> schrieb: >Nicholas Adams wrote: > >> Ian Goddard <goddai01@hotmail.co.uk> schrieb: >> >> >>>Nicholas Adams wrote: >>> >>>>David Harper <devnull@obliquity.u-net.com> schrieb: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Nicholas Adams wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Test >>>>> >>>>>Sorry, you failed :-p >>>>> >>>>>You should have posted to the alt.test newsgroup. That's what it's >>>>>there for. >>>>> >>>>>David Harper >>>>>Cambridge, England >>>> >>>> >>>>just wanted to make a bit of traffic :-)) >>>> >>>>Nick >>> >>>Yup. Apart from the spammers it's getting lonely here. Shall we start >>>another thread about the merits and demerits of GEDCOM? >> >> >> >> Wouldn't know what you are talking (writing) about. >> >> Nick > > >ROTFL! Then you'd be a fresh voice to the discussion. > >Cheryl GEDCOM, an acronym for GEnealogical Data COMmunication, is a specification for exchanging genealogical data between different genealogy software. GEDCOM was developed by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as an aid to genealogical research. A GEDCOM file is plain text (usually either ANSEL or ASCII) containing genealogical information about individuals, and meta data linking these records together. Most genealogy software supports importing from and/or exporting to GEDCOM format. However, some genealogy software programs incorporate the use of proprietary extensions to the GEDCOM format, which are not always recognized by other genealogy programs. The GEDCOM TestBook Project evaluates how well popular genealogy programs conform to the GEDCOM 5.5 standard. Additionally, many tools exist to convert GEDCOM files to HTML pages. Contents [hide] * 1 GEDCOM model * 2 GEDCOM file structure o 2.1 Example * 3 Versions * 4 Limitations * 5 See also * 6 External links GEDCOM model GEDCOM uses a lineage-linked data model. This data model is based on the nuclear family and the individual. This contrasts with evidence models, where data is structured to reflect the discovered and supporting evidence. In the GEDCOM lineage-linked data model, all data is structured to reflect the believed reality, that is, actual (or hypothesized) nuclear families and individuals. Commsoft[1], the authors of the Roots series of genealogy software and Ultimate Family Tree, defined a version called Event GEDCOM[2]. Although it is event based it is still a model built on assumed reality rather than evidence. Event GEDCOM was more flexibile as it allowed some separation between believed events and the participants. Roots and Ultimate Family Tree are no longer available, so now very few people are using Event GEDCOM. [edit] GEDCOM file structure GEDCOM files are somewhat similar to MARC, an interchange format for bibliographic data. A GEDCOM file consists of a header section, records, and a trailer section. Records represent people (INDI record), families (FAM records), sources of information (SOUR records), and other miscellaneous records, including notes. Every line of a GEDCOM file begins with a level number. All top-level records (HEAD, TRLR, SUBN, and each INDI, FAM, OBJE, NOTE, REPO, SOUR, and SUBM) begin with a line with level 0. All other level numbers are positive integers. Although it is theoretically possible to write a GEDCOM file by hand, the format was designed to be used with software and thus is not especially human-friendly. A GEDCOM validator that can be used to validate the structure of a GEDCOM file is included as part of PhpGedView project, though it is not meant to be a standalone validator. Example The following is a sample GEDCOM file. The first column indicates an indentation level. The header (HEAD) includes the source program and version (Reunion, V8.0), the GEDCOM version (5.5), and the character encoding (MACINTOSH). The individual records (INDI) define Bob Cox(ID 1—@I1@), Joann Para (ID 2), and Bobby Jo Cox (ID 3). The family record (FAM) links the husband (HUSB), wife (WIFE), and child (CHIL) by their ID numbers. WiKi's real nice..... Nick

On 19/10/2007 17:08, Ian Goddard wrote: > Yup. Apart from the spammers it's getting lonely here. Shall we start > another thread about the merits and demerits of GEDCOM? > What's wrong with GEDCOM? I'm new here :D Ian PS I _am_ new here and that _was_ a joke. -- work - http://www.talis.com/platform play - http://iandavis.com/blog callto:ian_davis

Ian Goddard <goddai01@hotmail.co.uk> schrieb: >Nicholas Adams wrote: >> David Harper <devnull@obliquity.u-net.com> schrieb: >> >>> Nicholas Adams wrote: >>>> Test >>> Sorry, you failed :-p >>> >>> You should have posted to the alt.test newsgroup. That's what it's >>> there for. >>> >>> David Harper >>> Cambridge, England >> >> >> just wanted to make a bit of traffic :-)) >> >> Nick > >Yup. Apart from the spammers it's getting lonely here. Shall we start >another thread about the merits and demerits of GEDCOM? Wouldn't know what you are talking (writing) about. Nick

Nicholas Adams wrote: > David Harper <devnull@obliquity.u-net.com> schrieb: > >> Nicholas Adams wrote: >>> Test >> Sorry, you failed :-p >> >> You should have posted to the alt.test newsgroup. That's what it's >> there for. >> >> David Harper >> Cambridge, England > > > just wanted to make a bit of traffic :-)) > > Nick Yup. Apart from the spammers it's getting lonely here. Shall we start another thread about the merits and demerits of GEDCOM? -- Ian Hotmail is for spammers. Real mail address is igoddard at nildram co uk

David Harper <devnull@obliquity.u-net.com> schrieb: >Nicholas Adams wrote: >> Test > >Sorry, you failed :-p > >You should have posted to the alt.test newsgroup. That's what it's >there for. > >David Harper >Cambridge, England just wanted to make a bit of traffic :-)) Nick

I don't seem to be having any luck finding recent discussions of this- so I'll throw this out and see if there is a better way. I use Steed's Brother's Keeper and recently started using a laptop. at some point I added some data to my desktop -- then I added some to my laptop. Now I'm not sure what I added to either. [and somewhere along the line I must have unchecked 'put changes in bkaudit.txt file' in BK's options, so I can't go that way] So I want to compare them. I exported gedcoms from each- and went to Word to do a compare. The document is 1100 pages long, so it will take some time to scroll through for a 1/2 dozen inconsistencies. I downloaded a 30 day trial of Compare suite which promised to create a "report". The report does show the changes a little more boldly than word- but it is still a 1100 page doc to scroll through. Is there something that will look at the 2 gedcoms- and say 'you added info to person 3800' or 'you added person #3892', or 'deleted #16'? [this must be more difficult than it seems to me-who-isn't-a-programmer because John steed has had a compare tool in the works for quite a while, but hasn't added it yet] Thanks, Jim

Nicholas Adams wrote: > Ian Goddard <goddai01@hotmail.co.uk> schrieb: > > >>Nicholas Adams wrote: >> >>>David Harper <devnull@obliquity.u-net.com> schrieb: >>> >>> >>>>Nicholas Adams wrote: >>>> >>>>>Test >>>> >>>>Sorry, you failed :-p >>>> >>>>You should have posted to the alt.test newsgroup. That's what it's >>>>there for. >>>> >>>>David Harper >>>>Cambridge, England >>> >>> >>>just wanted to make a bit of traffic :-)) >>> >>>Nick >> >>Yup. Apart from the spammers it's getting lonely here. Shall we start >>another thread about the merits and demerits of GEDCOM? > > > > Wouldn't know what you are talking (writing) about. > > Nick ROTFL! Then you'd be a fresh voice to the discussion. Cheryl

Nicholas Adams wrote: > Test Sorry, you failed :-p You should have posted to the alt.test newsgroup. That's what it's there for. David Harper Cambridge, England

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I've set up a mailing list, think of it as a 'users group' for anyone and everyone involved in the FamilySearch Indexing. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fsindexing/ First message has to be approved, this is to stop driveby spammers, once that is approved it will work like any other mailing list. 115 members so far in the first 30 hours it's been active, and growing.

"Charliec" <charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote in message news:g7dtg31dm44aqsf2v4it108rdfrj5vbm6m@4ax.com... >I have FTW 2006 and am looking at upgrading to FTW 2008. But I can't > seem to find an "upgrade" path on their site. Is there not a reduced > upgrade price for previous users of FTW or do you have to pay the > entire purchase price as any new user would? > Charlie Those who are seriously thinking of such an upgrade may like to read: <http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2007/08/family-tree-mak.html> before making up their minds. Keith

Himself wrote: > "Charliec" <charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote in message > news:g7dtg31dm44aqsf2v4it108rdfrj5vbm6m@4ax.com... > >>I have FTW 2006 and am looking at upgrading to FTW 2008. But I can't >>seem to find an "upgrade" path on their site. Is there not a reduced >>upgrade price for previous users of FTW or do you have to pay the >>entire purchase price as any new user would? >>Charlie > > > > Those who are seriously thinking of such an upgrade may like to read: > <http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2007/08/family-tree-mak.html> > before making up their minds. don't yet still under development OK for newbies with tiny trees see rootsweb list and board for help and discussions Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

On Oct 7, 10:55 pm, Paul Blair <pbl...@pcug.org.au> wrote: > Hi folk.... > > Appreciate any views on use of this system. > > Paul Geni is a family-oriented social networking site using genealogy as the hook. When I looked at it a few months ago, the security sucked. You had very little control over who was allowed to see your tree. Although it uses a username/password, your in-laws can invite their out-laws, so you have no idea who is looking at your information. GEDCOM upload and download is rudimentary, so you have to enter information by hand. Unless they have improved both significantly, stay away if you are worried about identity theft.

Charliec wrote: > I have FTW 2006 and am looking at upgrading to FTW 2008. But I can't > seem to find an "upgrade" path on their site. Is there not a reduced > upgrade price for previous users of FTW or do you have to pay the > entire purchase price as any new user would? > > Thanks > Charlie > ****************************************************** > Charliec Charlie FTW 2008 is not a simple continuation of previous versions. Under the bonnet it is quite different, and represent an 'upgrade' in name only. So it would seem there is only an install path. And you need to be fairly recent with your computer software. The change in software design has not been without incident. The initial offering was slow, clunky and missing some features that users had come to like. "Repairs" are underway and ongoing to rectify this. If you Google, you will get plenty of feedback on the product. There are numerous complaints from users about speed, missing features etc. There seems to be a strong attempt to "tie" you to after-market features as well, which might be fine if your family is USA-based, but not much use elsewhere. Paul

Thanks you both for the advice. I will google and see what I find. Thanks again Charlie >On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 07:16:41 +1000, Paul Blair <pblair@pcug.org.au> wrote: >Charliec wrote: >> I have FTW 2006 and am looking at upgrading to FTW 2008. But I can't >> seem to find an "upgrade" path on their site. Is there not a reduced >> upgrade price for previous users of FTW or do you have to pay the >> entire purchase price as any new user would? >> >> Thanks >> Charlie >> ****************************************************** >> Charliec > >Charlie > >FTW 2008 is not a simple continuation of previous versions. Under the >bonnet it is quite different, and represent an 'upgrade' in name only. >So it would seem there is only an install path. And you need to be >fairly recent with your computer software. > >The change in software design has not been without incident. The initial >offering was slow, clunky and missing some features that users had come >to like. "Repairs" are underway and ongoing to rectify this. > >If you Google, you will get plenty of feedback on the product. There are >numerous complaints from users about speed, missing features etc. There >seems to be a strong attempt to "tie" you to after-market features as >well, which might be fine if your family is USA-based, but not much use >elsewhere. > >Paul ****************************************************** Charliec

raylopez99 wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/3a2prr > > See the above thread. I'm writing this as a programming exercise, not > commercially. Are you taking into account hyphenated last names or people changing their last name to something else or men who take women's last names or gay marriage ? Jonathan