Denis Beauregard wrote: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:35:37 -0500, "T.M. Sommers" <tms@nj.net> wrote > in soc.genealogy.computing: > >> Denis Beauregard wrote: >>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:12:28 -0500, "T.M. Sommers" <tms@nj.net> wrote >>> in soc.genealogy.computing: >>> >>>> Are you able to modify the file in kPDF? What are the document's >>>> security settings? >>> kPDF is a viewer. >> Ah. My KDE installation is so old it doesn't have kPDF. It uses >> KGhostView to view PDFs, so I assumed that kPDF was a writer. >> >>> Since I **print** to a file, I don't see why the >>> settings would follow... >> I was thinking that it could be that the security settings are >> put in a comment in the ps file, and that the ps2pdf program >> respects them. Assuming that the security settings are the cause >> of your problem. > > Indeed, the ps file forwarding the settings makes sense and is a > good explanation to my problem. It is a shame that my version of > Acroread is 4 versions too old so that the Adobe site is of no > help to understand what the error message means. While reading > a google PDF file, I get often the error 9, which is also something > I don't understand. In both kPDF and the native PDF reader of > Konqueror, I can read those files with no error message and I > presume any PDF reader not from Adobe would do the same. > > Fortunately, I found an alternative mean to keep the images > I need, i.e. irfanview and the image capture. What I want is > a mean to copy data to my database... > > > Denis > The Foxit Reader I mentioned ealrier (which runs under Win98) will allow you to copy information as text for pasting in your database. The pdf995 tools will allow you to convert it the whole document to text, DOC, HTML

In article <o4qii39fkua8uh54iesb7j8epr1q40sl1m@4ax.com>, Denis Beauregard <denis.b-at-francogene.com@fr.invalid> writes: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:35:37 -0500, "T.M. Sommers" <tms@nj.net> wrote > in soc.genealogy.computing: > >>Denis Beauregard wrote: >>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:12:28 -0500, "T.M. Sommers" <tms@nj.net> wrote >>> in soc.genealogy.computing: >>> >>>>Are you able to modify the file in kPDF? What are the document's >>>>security settings? >>> >>> kPDF is a viewer. >> >>Ah. My KDE installation is so old it doesn't have kPDF. It uses >>KGhostView to view PDFs, so I assumed that kPDF was a writer. >> >>> Since I **print** to a file, I don't see why the >>> settings would follow... >> >>I was thinking that it could be that the security settings are >>put in a comment in the ps file, and that the ps2pdf program >>respects them. Assuming that the security settings are the cause >>of your problem. > > Indeed, the ps file forwarding the settings makes sense and is a > good explanation to my problem. It is a shame that my version of > Acroread is 4 versions too old so that the Adobe site is of no > help to understand what the error message means. While reading > a google PDF file, I get often the error 9, which is also something > I don't understand. In both kPDF and the native PDF reader of > Konqueror, I can read those files with no error message and I > presume any PDF reader not from Adobe would do the same. > > Fortunately, I found an alternative mean to keep the images > I need, i.e. irfanview and the image capture. What I want is > a mean to copy data to my database... > > > Denis > So, if I understand you correctly, you don't really care about the format, just the data. How about converting the pdf document to text? Handy tool for unix/linux called, appropriately, pdftk. Details at: http://www.accesspdf.com/pdftk/ There's also a tool, pdftotext, which appears to be a part of the xpdf package. Details at: http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/ HTH, Bob Melson -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas ----- "People unfit for freedom---who cannot do much with it---are hungry for power." ---Eric Hoffer

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:35:37 -0500, "T.M. Sommers" <tms@nj.net> wrote in soc.genealogy.computing: >Denis Beauregard wrote: >> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:12:28 -0500, "T.M. Sommers" <tms@nj.net> wrote >> in soc.genealogy.computing: >> >>>Are you able to modify the file in kPDF? What are the document's >>>security settings? >> >> kPDF is a viewer. > >Ah. My KDE installation is so old it doesn't have kPDF. It uses >KGhostView to view PDFs, so I assumed that kPDF was a writer. > >> Since I **print** to a file, I don't see why the >> settings would follow... > >I was thinking that it could be that the security settings are >put in a comment in the ps file, and that the ps2pdf program >respects them. Assuming that the security settings are the cause >of your problem. Indeed, the ps file forwarding the settings makes sense and is a good explanation to my problem. It is a shame that my version of Acroread is 4 versions too old so that the Adobe site is of no help to understand what the error message means. While reading a google PDF file, I get often the error 9, which is also something I don't understand. In both kPDF and the native PDF reader of Konqueror, I can read those files with no error message and I presume any PDF reader not from Adobe would do the same. Fortunately, I found an alternative mean to keep the images I need, i.e. irfanview and the image capture. What I want is a mean to copy data to my database... Denis -- 0 Denis Beauregard - /\/ Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - www.francogene.com/genealogie--quebec/ |\ French in North America before 1721 - www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/ / | Maintenant sur cédérom, début à 1765 oo oo Now on CD-ROM, beginnings to 1765

Denis Beauregard wrote: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:12:28 -0500, "T.M. Sommers" <tms@nj.net> wrote > in soc.genealogy.computing: > >>Are you able to modify the file in kPDF? What are the document's >>security settings? > > kPDF is a viewer. Ah. My KDE installation is so old it doesn't have kPDF. It uses KGhostView to view PDFs, so I assumed that kPDF was a writer. > Since I **print** to a file, I don't see why the > settings would follow... I was thinking that it could be that the security settings are put in a comment in the ps file, and that the ps2pdf program respects them. Assuming that the security settings are the cause of your problem. -- Thomas M. Sommers -- tms@nj.net -- AB2SB

On Oct 31, 4:44 am, john <deo-c...@myamail.com> wrote: > Denis Beauregard wrote: > > Hi: > > > Is it possible to repair a Google ebook downloaded from > > books.google.com ? > > > I run a computer with Windows 98 with an original and paid > > Adobe Acrobat release 5 (I think the current release is 9). > > So I get continuously an error 9 (Acrobat is expensive but > > they forget to hire a good programmer to write the error > > messages at long...). > > > Then I sent one file to a Linux computer, read it with kPDF, > > printed it to a postcript file, converted back the file to > > PDF format using ps2pdf12 and imported it back to the Win 98 > > computer. > > > The file is readable but when I try to change it, I get the > > error 130 (no idea what it is). I tried to remove white pages > > (won't save) or to add some bookmark (won't save). > > > Any hint ? Since I completely rebuilt the file with the > > PDF -> ps -> PDF process, I thought I could do what I want > > with the book (in my case, adding bookmarks and read it from > > Window 98 and Acrobat 5)... > > > Denis > > There are other PDF readers. > > I use the free Foxit Readerhttp://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/ > There are versions for Windows (including Win98) and Linux > > There is other software for converting PDF files e.g. the free PDF995 > suitehttp://www.pdf995.com/which will extract text, DOC or HTML and > has many other functions. SOURCEFORGE.NET has tons of great pdf manipulators for different purposes for linux and windows. some great tools. i found one that even manipulates the rights so you can edit them. Hope this helps http://www.bifano.us

Denis Beauregard wrote: > Hi: > > Is it possible to repair a Google ebook downloaded from > books.google.com ? > > I run a computer with Windows 98 with an original and paid > Adobe Acrobat release 5 (I think the current release is 9). > So I get continuously an error 9 (Acrobat is expensive but > they forget to hire a good programmer to write the error > messages at long...). > > Then I sent one file to a Linux computer, read it with kPDF, > printed it to a postcript file, converted back the file to > PDF format using ps2pdf12 and imported it back to the Win 98 > computer. > > The file is readable but when I try to change it, I get the > error 130 (no idea what it is). I tried to remove white pages > (won't save) or to add some bookmark (won't save). > > Any hint ? Since I completely rebuilt the file with the > PDF -> ps -> PDF process, I thought I could do what I want > with the book (in my case, adding bookmarks and read it from > Window 98 and Acrobat 5)... > > > Denis > There are other PDF readers. I use the free Foxit Reader http://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/ There are versions for Windows (including Win98) and Linux There is other software for converting PDF files e.g. the free PDF995 suite http://www.pdf995.com/ which will extract text, DOC or HTML and has many other functions.

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:12:28 -0500, "T.M. Sommers" <tms@nj.net> wrote in soc.genealogy.computing: >Are you able to modify the file in kPDF? What are the document's >security settings? kPDF is a viewer. Since I **print** to a file, I don't see why the settings would follow... Denis -- 0 Denis Beauregard - /\/ Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - www.francogene.com/genealogie--quebec/ |\ French in North America before 1721 - www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/ / | Maintenant sur cédérom, début à 1765 oo oo Now on CD-ROM, beginnings to 1765

"Denis Beauregard" <denis.b-at-francogene.com@fr.invalid> wrote in message news:ortfi39tu5ml4m7tmkqlb1erahk1s6682a@4ax.com... > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:25:31 +0000, Hugh Watkins > <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote in soc.genealogy.computing: > >>why not get the reader? > > Because if I get the reader, I will lose the writer. This kind > of software won't allow someone to have on the same computer both > the editor (Adobe Acrobat) and the reader (Acroread). And I need > the editor to add bookmarks. > Are you sure? I have both Reader and Acrobat installed on this pc and running well. Lesley Robertson

"david" <nospam@nospam274503> wrote in message news:J96dnQTNN6kGGbranZ2dnUVZ8surnZ2d@bt.com... > Am trying to choose my first prog, either FTM or some other (Legacy?). I > can't work out the difference between these two... > > Who Do You Think You Are Standard Edition CD-ROM £9.99 > > Who Do You Think You Are? Family Tree Maker Deluxe V2 (CD-ROM) £23.99 > > http://www.bbcshop.com/bin/venda?ex=co_wizr-xapian&threshold=1&synall=1&bsref=bbc&searchfld=&searchpage=&searchinvt=1&searchstry=&searchlike=1&srchopt=V&itemsperpage=10&bklist1=&searchex=who+do+you+think+you+are&V=software&submit.x=11&submit.y=9 > > Same versions on Amazon, one much cheaper. > > What's the difference in terms of features? > > I have read that the latest FTM 2008 should be avoided as buggy? I have the impression that you're in the UK, in which case you may be able to still get the earlier versions of FTM at places such as PC World. I found copies at less than half price in a discount bin in Debenhams last summer. I'm using ver 2005 quite happily - have been with FTM since ver 4, tried others and gone back to it. Will not be going to 2008 as they've removed too many features I like. Try the free ones as well, such as Legacy. The main thing is that as long as whichever programme you choose can produce gedcom files (and you don't load the system with photos), if you then find another programme you like better, it will be easy to transfer your data. Lesley Robertson

"Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robertson@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message news:4ae43$47284e7e$83b4502b$13703@news2.tudelft.nl... > > "david" <nospam@nospam274503> wrote in message > news:J96dnQTNN6kGGbranZ2dnUVZ8surnZ2d@bt.com... >> Am trying to choose my first prog, either FTM or some other (Legacy?). I >> can't work out the difference between these two... >> >> Who Do You Think You Are Standard Edition CD-ROM £9.99 >> >> Who Do You Think You Are? Family Tree Maker Deluxe V2 (CD-ROM) £23.99 >> >> http://www.bbcshop.com/bin/venda?ex=co_wizr-xapian&threshold=1&synall=1&bsref=bbc&searchfld=&searchpage=&searchinvt=1&searchstry=&searchlike=1&srchopt=V&itemsperpage=10&bklist1=&searchex=who+do+you+think+you+are&V=software&submit.x=11&submit.y=9 >> >> Same versions on Amazon, one much cheaper. >> >> What's the difference in terms of features? >> >> I have read that the latest FTM 2008 should be avoided as buggy? > I have the impression that you're in the UK, in which case you may be able > to still get the earlier versions of FTM at places such as PC World. I > found copies at less than half price in a discount bin in Debenhams last > summer. > I'm using ver 2005 quite happily - have been with FTM since ver 4, tried > others and gone back to it. Will not be going to 2008 as they've removed > too many features I like. > Try the free ones as well, such as Legacy. The main thing is that as long > as whichever programme you choose can produce gedcom files (and you don't > load the system with photos), if you then find another programme you like > better, it will be easy to transfer your data. > Lesley Robertson > With respect to photos, note that FTM is one of the few programs that will not export media references to a gedcom file. If you have a lot of group photos and wish to assign individual "mugshots" from them, then Family Tree Builder (My Heritage, free) and Family Historian (Calico Pie) each have advanced features to do this. If you just wish to include photos (without "cutout" assignment features), then almost all programs, with the exception of F-ZIP and FTM, will transfer the media references via gedcom transfer. Nigel www.tcgr.bufton.org

Denis Beauregard wrote: > Hi: > > Is it possible to repair a Google ebook downloaded from > books.google.com ? > > I run a computer with Windows 98 with an original and paid > Adobe Acrobat release 5 (I think the current release is 9). > So I get continuously an error 9 (Acrobat is expensive but > they forget to hire a good programmer to write the error > messages at long...). > > Then I sent one file to a Linux computer, read it with kPDF, > printed it to a postcript file, converted back the file to > PDF format using ps2pdf12 and imported it back to the Win 98 > computer. > > The file is readable but when I try to change it, I get the > error 130 (no idea what it is). I tried to remove white pages > (won't save) or to add some bookmark (won't save). Are you able to modify the file in kPDF? What are the document's security settings? -- Thomas M. Sommers -- tms@nj.net -- AB2SB

"Denis Beauregard" <denis.b-at-francogene.com@fr.invalid> wrote in message news:ortfi39tu5ml4m7tmkqlb1erahk1s6682a@4ax.com... > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:25:31 +0000, Hugh Watkins > <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote in soc.genealogy.computing: > >>why not get the reader? > > Because if I get the reader, I will lose the writer. This kind > of software won't allow someone to have on the same computer both > the editor (Adobe Acrobat) and the reader (Acroread). And I need > the editor to add bookmarks. > Nonsense. I have multiple versions of both Acrobat Reader and Adobe Acrobat Professional installed on my computer. They all work just fine. Only one application can be set as the default application for PDFs, but you can force a file to open in your choice of app by selecting "Open With" (shift-Right click) or by running the application first, then opening the file through the File > Open menu selection. The main problem you will have is that Adobe stopped supporting Windows 98 somewhere around Acrobat 5 or 6. Regards, -David

Denis Beauregard wrote: > Hi: > > Is it possible to repair a Google ebook downloaded from > books.google.com ? > > I run a computer with Windows 98 with an original and paid > Adobe Acrobat release 5 (I think the current release is 9). > So I get continuously an error 9 (Acrobat is expensive but > they forget to hire a good programmer to write the error > messages at long...). > > Then I sent one file to a Linux computer, read it with kPDF, > printed it to a postcript file, converted back the file to > PDF format using ps2pdf12 and imported it back to the Win 98 > computer. > > The file is readable but when I try to change it, I get the > error 130 (no idea what it is). I tried to remove white pages > (won't save) or to add some bookmark (won't save). > > Any hint ? Since I completely rebuilt the file with the > PDF -> ps -> PDF process, I thought I could do what I want > with the book (in my case, adding bookmarks and read it from > Window 98 and Acrobat 5)... why not get the reader? or use a libaray computer and copy paste the text into a webmail program Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:11:33 -0500, Denis Beauregard <denis.b-at-francogene.com@fr.invalid> wrote in soc.genealogy.computing: >Is it possible to repair a Google ebook downloaded from >books.google.com ? I found a solution. I use the screen capture feature of Irfanview and view the pages I want to keep. I start the capture gizmo, set with a 5 seconds delay, then I display the pages on the google web site by sliding them. Later, I will load them to a paint software to remove the borders and to erase each town/parish as I enter it in my database. Denis -- 0 Denis Beauregard - /\/ Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - www.francogene.com/genealogie--quebec/ |\ French in North America before 1721 - www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/ / | Maintenant sur cédérom, début à 1765 oo oo Now on CD-ROM, beginnings to 1765

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:25:31 +0000, Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote in soc.genealogy.computing: >why not get the reader? Because if I get the reader, I will lose the writer. This kind of software won't allow someone to have on the same computer both the editor (Adobe Acrobat) and the reader (Acroread). And I need the editor to add bookmarks. >or use a libaray computer and copy paste the text into a webmail program To do this I can use directly the Web interface to search and read the books. And I can printscreen any single page or half page. Not efficient when I can find long lists. My project is to complete a database of parishes in French dioceses and provinces. For that purpose, I look for books having this kind of lists. Some dioceses are rather easy to process (a part of France has a list of all parishes) but I just can't find lists easy to process so I try to do it indirectly. I already can use books from the French national library in usable PDF format but they are not text searchable like the Google books. I have a similar project for German places. Both projects are for places in 1600-1800 period. I can read the google books when I am in Linux but not in Windows 98. Denis -- 0 Denis Beauregard - /\/ Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - www.francogene.com/genealogie--quebec/ |\ French in North America before 1721 - www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/ / | Maintenant sur cédérom, début à 1765 oo oo Now on CD-ROM, beginnings to 1765

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:22:13 -0000, david wrote: > Am trying to choose my first prog, either FTM or some other (Legacy?). I > can't work out the difference between these two... > > Who Do You Think You Are Standard Edition CD-ROM £9.99 > > Who Do You Think You Are? Family Tree Maker Deluxe V2 (CD-ROM) £23.99 > > http://www.bbcshop.com/bin/venda?ex=co_wizr-xapian&threshold=1&synall=1&bsref=bbc&searchfld=&searchpage=&searchinvt=1&searchstry=&searchlike=1&srchopt=V&itemsperpage=10&bklist1=&searchex=who+do+you+think+you+are&V=software&submit.x=11&submit.y=9 > > Same versions on Amazon, one much cheaper. > > What's the difference in terms of features? > > I have read that the latest FTM 2008 should be avoided as buggy? I think you'll find the Standard edition has "reduced functionality", in particular you can't export to gedcom. BobC -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Hi: Is it possible to repair a Google ebook downloaded from books.google.com ? I run a computer with Windows 98 with an original and paid Adobe Acrobat release 5 (I think the current release is 9). So I get continuously an error 9 (Acrobat is expensive but they forget to hire a good programmer to write the error messages at long...). Then I sent one file to a Linux computer, read it with kPDF, printed it to a postcript file, converted back the file to PDF format using ps2pdf12 and imported it back to the Win 98 computer. The file is readable but when I try to change it, I get the error 130 (no idea what it is). I tried to remove white pages (won't save) or to add some bookmark (won't save). Any hint ? Since I completely rebuilt the file with the PDF -> ps -> PDF process, I thought I could do what I want with the book (in my case, adding bookmarks and read it from Window 98 and Acrobat 5)... Denis -- 0 Denis Beauregard - /\/ Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - www.francogene.com/genealogie--quebec/ |\ French in North America before 1721 - www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/ / | Maintenant sur cédérom, début à 1765 oo oo Now on CD-ROM, beginnings to 1765

Dale DePriest wrote: > > > Steve Hayes wrote: > >> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:43:40 +0100, No Spam <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> I've been given a pdf file which I wish to add to my FTM 16 database. >>> However FTM doesn't recognise this version of the pdf. >>> Opening the pdf in PAF 5.s is no problen but PAF doesn't offer an >>> alternative to saving in other than pdf ie GEDCON isn't an option. >>> >>> Any suggestions please? >> >> >> Print it out and type it in. >> > Adobe has a save text option for disabled persons. You do not need to > type it in again but may need to reformat the data. I would just copy each name and date one by one unless a pdf tree to gedcom program exists? normally never ever import or merge trees unless only one person is common to both trees yes ONE Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

david wrote: > Am trying to choose my first prog, either FTM or some other (Legacy?). I > can't work out the difference between these two... > > Who Do You Think You Are Standard Edition CD-ROM £9.99 OUT OF STOCK !!! > > Who Do You Think You Are? Family Tree Maker Deluxe V2 (CD-ROM) £23.99 > > http://www.bbcshop.com/bin/venda?ex=co_wizr-xapian&threshold=1&synall=1&bsref=bbc&searchfld=&searchpage=&searchinvt=1&searchstry=&searchlike=1&srchopt=V&itemsperpage=10&bklist1=&searchex=who+do+you+think+you+are&V=software&submit.x=11&submit.y=9 > > Same versions on Amazon, one much cheaper. > > What's the difference in terms of features? supposedly FTM 2006 in a UK version 90 day free* subscription Ancestry.co.uk Most features on Family Tree Maker are unaffected by the new version of Microsoft Windows, Windows Vista. However, certain aspects (like exporting a view, book, or tree to PDF) will not function without an important update for your copy of Family Tree Maker. This update is completely free, * Release Date: 05/12/2005 > > I have read that the latest FTM 2008 should be avoided as buggy? only for old users it is a new concept using MS .net technology and is good enough for small trees in 2 or 3 years it should be good again I use the US FTM 16 Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

On Oct 30, 1:22 pm, "david" <nospam@nospam274503> wrote: > Am trying to choose my first prog, either FTM or some other (Legacy?). I > can't work out the difference between these two... > > Who Do You Think You Are Standard Edition CD-ROM £9.99 > > Who Do You Think You Are? Family Tree Maker Deluxe V2 (CD-ROM) £23.99 > > http://www.bbcshop.com/bin/venda?ex=co_wizr-xapian&threshold=1&synall... > > Same versions on Amazon, one much cheaper. > > What's the difference in terms of features? > > I have read that the latest FTM 2008 should be avoided as buggy? And Legacy is free. Give it a try and see what you think. I upgraded to the deluxe as it has a couple bells and whistles that I found convenient.