GEDCOM is a perfectly good standard. It may be old, but the kilogram is an old standard and enjoys widespread modern use. Export your (deceased only) data into a GEDCOM 5.5 file, convert your transcription project to a home-made GEDCOM file, and post these on your own website or any website offering free space. These can be compiled together. I have a site, GedcomIndex.com where millions of GEDCOM file entries are listed by town. Note the importance, however, of entering the place name correctly, not putting notes in the place fields. Basically, I have run out of downloadable GEDCOM files, while there's a ton of material out there on HTML pages and spreadsheets of various formats. We could all find our connecting-line researchers if we would all post GEDCOM files. Tom Alciere Hudson, New Hampshire, USA

MJ wrote: > I've found the post from 2 months ago(http://groups.google.pl/group/ > soc.genealogy.computing/browse_thread/thread/98c4563a508d9bf9?hl=pl#) > but I think it doesn't solve my problem. > > I've been looking for a genealogy software which lets making > automatically all-in-one tree including all people not related > directly with me.I would like to include all people - not only my > cousins and close relatives but for example all the familly of my > grandfather and his second wife (after death of my grandmother), > parents of my brother's wife, etc... > > Is there any soft which makes that possible? > Thanks for any comments! > Marek > Both Genbox Family History http://www.genbox.com/ and Family Historian 3 http://www.family-historian.co.uk/ will do what you want. Both are available as trial downloads. It is probably best to print the tree as a PDF file rather than export as graphics file as the PDF file is more scalable. Try installing one of the free PDF printer drivers, e.f. PDFCreator http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/ or pdf995 http://www.pdf995.com/ and print your chart using one of them. You will have to set your paper size to a very large size using the Custom Size option or else you will get your tree printed to multiple A4 pages! You should then be able to load that PDF file into a graphics program and convert it to another format - although, as I've said before, I'd stick with PDF. I've used the PDF print successfully for charts up to 3000+ individuals.

Oops!! Left out the Books We Own link. http://www.rootsweb.com/~bwo/index.html JohnO jj206 wrote: > Hi, > > I was given seven history books about New England and was > curious if there was a place to list them. Then people online > could search for books they want to look at, but their library > does not have them. So people could email me and ask me to look > up something or someone in the books. Some of the books are too > pricey to buy on amazon.com and I don't want to sell the books > either. Just curious if there was some site like that out there > already. > > Jonathan

Jonathon As this is an Aust/NZ list, I presume you are referring to New England in NSW not the US. Rootsweb's "Books We Own" is possibly the sort of site you're looking for. The site covers many countries with a good Australian selection. JohnO jj206 wrote: > Hi, > > I was given seven history books about New England and was > curious if there was a place to list them. Then people online > could search for books they want to look at, but their library > does not have them. So people could email me and ask me to look > up something or someone in the books. Some of the books are too > pricey to buy on amazon.com and I don't want to sell the books > either. Just curious if there was some site like that out there > already. > > Jonathan

John Owen wrote: > Oops!! Left out the Books We Own link. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~bwo/index.html > > JohnO Thank you John ! I like that one. Jonathan > > jj206 wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I was given seven history books about New England and was >> curious if there was a place to list them. Then people online >> could search for books they want to look at, but their library >> does not have them. So people could email me and ask me to look >> up something or someone in the books. Some of the books are too >> pricey to buy on amazon.com and I don't want to sell the books >> either. Just curious if there was some site like that out there >> already. >> >> Jonathan

I've found the post from 2 months ago(http://groups.google.pl/group/ soc.genealogy.computing/browse_thread/thread/98c4563a508d9bf9?hl=pl#) but I think it doesn't solve my problem. I've been looking for a genealogy software which lets making automatically all-in-one tree including all people not related directly with me.I would like to include all people - not only my cousins and close relatives but for example all the familly of my grandfather and his second wife (after death of my grandmother), parents of my brother's wife, etc... Is there any soft which makes that possible? Thanks for any comments! Marek

jj206 wrote: > Hi, > > I was given seven history books about New England and was > curious if there was a place to list them. Then people online > could search for books they want to look at, but their library > does not have them. So people could email me and ask me to look > up something or someone in the books. Some of the books are too > pricey to buy on amazon.com and I don't want to sell the books > either. Just curious if there was some site like that out there > already. yes there are various look up exchanges contact eg Historic Genealogy in New England The New England Historic Genealogical Society (NEHGS) is the oldest genealogical society in the country. For over 150 years, NEHGS has helped new and ... www.newenglandancestors.org/ - also http://www.worldgenweb.org/ links to http://www.usgenweb.org/ http://www.usgenweb.org/about/whitepaper.shtml see states of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Connecticut. and towns finally use message boards on http://www.rootsweb.com/ Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

Hi, I was given seven history books about New England and was curious if there was a place to list them. Then people online could search for books they want to look at, but their library does not have them. So people could email me and ask me to look up something or someone in the books. Some of the books are too pricey to buy on amazon.com and I don't want to sell the books either. Just curious if there was some site like that out there already. Jonathan

Leicester Square - 9/Feb/1998 In February 1998 I spent some time in Leicester Square, in the West End of London. This is a very busy area of London, and one which can be relied on to produce "contacts". Capital Radio's offices and their cafe are located here, the Trocadero is nearby, and the place is full of cinemas and entertainment venues. Certainty level: 100% A young girl is heard to say, "Alright I'm going to talk to myself" to her friends, followed by all of them laughing together, as I passed by. Believe me, I do not look mad in real life, these young people would not have directed their comments and laughter at me unless they had already been told by others that I was ill. I am absolutely certain that their behaviour was directed at me, and this audio file is particularly clear. Certainty level: 60% This one was recorded in a cafe in Green Park. Two women are talking to each other, one of them says to the other, "something wrong with him", with an emphasis on the "wrong". The words "something wrong with him" have been repeated at me dozens of times, at my former workplace in Canada, in England, etc. The words are quite deliberately chosen to have two meanings; they obviously imply that I am ill, without forcing the abusers to demean themselves by using more pejorative terms, although they have shown that they have no compunction in that area; and secondly, the words "wrong ... him" make me at fault, and place the guilt for the abusers' wrongdoing on my shoulders. Certainty level: 30% Recorded on a Victoria line tube train leaving Green Park station. If you listen carefully you can pick up the word "hunchback". The speaker had emitted a swear word immediately before this excerpt; both the swear word, and the "hunchback", were (I believe) directed at me. 13629 -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDemon.com<<<<<<------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access

POSK Cafe - 2/Feb/1998 Here are two independent segments, both of which occurred in London on the same day, the first at a Polish cafe, the second on the Tube. Certainty level: 100% POSK is the Polish Social-Cultural Centre in Hammersmith, London. It has quite a nice cafe which does pierogi, golabki etc. I went there with my mother early in 1998. Seated at the window table were three Polish men talking amongst themselves. One of them let rip with a sexual obscenity which was clearly directed at me (it's the same one that's been heard again and again since about November 1995), and which was recorded on my minidisc walkman. I have not included it in the above excerpt, which shows the reaction of another of the trio to the first man's swearing - namely, "jestes swinia jednak" which in English is "nevertheless you're a swine". Certainty level: 20% Somewhere on the London Underground. "Psycho" (I think - a little unclear). 11455 -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDemon.com<<<<<<------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access

Brighton Day Trip - 24/Sept/1998 Certainty level: 5% On a day trip to Brighton, carrying a minidisc recorder, I managed to collect several indistinct instances of what I think were people swearing at me. Between the 0.5 and 1.5 second marks of the above recording is something that sounds like "nutter". I recorded at least three other much more obscene sexual words on the same day. I don't honestly think the "nutter" recorded here is part of the conspiracy against me. I've been called similar things elsewhere, where it's been blindingly clear that the insult does form part of the conspiracy - but not in this case. This illustrates quite a worrying point - as a result of the many years of abuse "in public", I now sometimes simply don't know whether somebody is insulting me because they think I look like a dweeb, or whether the conspiracy is in action. Sometimes, due to background noise and people talking quietly relative to ambient noise, I can't be sure of what's being said, even after listening to it again on my minidisc. Or put another way, I now have a mild form of what I recognise to be occasional auditory delusions - but these are fuelled by the many years of actual verbal abuse. 9281 -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDemon.com<<<<<<------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access

Virgin Radio-Johnny Boy (19/June/1999) Certainty level: 30% I'm not quite sure about this one, so I've given it a one in three chance of being about me. First the background.... from mid-March 1999 for some three or four months, every weekend, I bombarded Westminster MPs with faxes about the terrible, all-encompassing MI5 Persecution. (Jesting aside, it really is terrible and all-encompassing, in the UK anyway.) Of course each week some MPs replied; but in June 1999, after I'd been at it some three months, I started getting "covert" feedback from Virgin Radio. The first feedback I got was from Danny Baker, on Sunday 13th June. That weekend I was sending an article which contained biting criticism of the police inaction in this case. Danny Baker on his Virgin radio show started an angry rant that "he knows it's rubbish", ie. he was rubbishing what I'd said in that weekend's faxed article. Unfortunately I wasn't recording this programme. The next possible Virgin-Radio feedback was a week later on 19th June 1999. This is contained in the audio file above, in which Johnny Boy on his "Wheels of Steel" programme says; "and if you would like to put a triple play together, ahhh.... because quite frankly Hipster and me are running out of ideas...." He goes on to counter Hipster's "how dare you" with a protestation that he is "only joking". What I reckon is that my article faxed to MPs that weekend was forwarded by one of the recipients to Virgin Radio. My article had included the words; "I am beginning to run out of both new topics and energy to write these articles." So what I reckon is that Johnny Boy read the article.... and rephrased the above line "run out of ... new topics" to "running out of ideas". I recognise that this is a pretty tenuous inference to make.... but do listen to the audio file, from the "ahhh...." pause in JB's speech you can guess he is about to say something "risky" and at someone's expense. Anyway, I listen to the Wheels of Steel regularly and will continue to do so, recording it as I always do - so any future funny remarks will get immortalised on these pages! 7107 -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDemon.com<<<<<<------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access

Virgin Radio-Johnny Boy (21/August/1998) Certainty level: 60% On Saturday 15 August 1998 I attended a gathering of contributors to newsgroup uk.misc at London's Victoria railway station. Also present was Simon G, who had previously given this description of what he would be wearing; At 06:36 AM 13/8/98 GMT, Simon wrote: >further clarification to aid recognition, i'll be wearing >a t shirt, a brown suede waistcoat, a brown suede miniskirt, >& a pair of patchwork leggings (& may have a widebrimmed straw >hat, too). It is my belief that my persecutors, who monitor my home telephone line (and consequently read all modem communications including email), were aware of this meeting, and may even have observed the "meat" taking place. Following the "meat" it seemed to me that one or two attempts were made by my persecutors to portray me as "gay", on the basis of Simon's suede miniskirt, which in their inventiveness my persecutors attributed to me, not Simon. (Just for the record, Simon is hetero, and has agreed to the above email extract being published.) The following item from Johnny Boy's Wheels of Steel (between 7pm-11pm, Friday 21/8/98) is one such attempt. (conversation) (J=Johnny-Boy, H=Hipster) J: Texas of course part of V98 this weekend enjoy it if you're going. Keep your eyes out on Sunday in Chelmsford for Hipster, because he's going to be there. What are you going to be wearing? H: I'll be wearing my, er, my suede shorts. (sycophantic laughter) J: and believe me he ain't joking, he ain't joking. OK coming next at Virgin on the Wheels of Steel... Why do I think Hipster's "suede shorts" refers to Simon's mini-skirt? Because "suede" in both cases (obvious!); because "suede shorts" indicates "gay" which they were trying to pin on me; because "shorts" = something short, such as a "mini"-skirt; and because the two DJs both laughed as soon as Hipster said "suede shorts", they knew what the joke was, they knew that they were meant (and probably paid) to find it funny. 4933 -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDemon.com<<<<<<------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access

Jackie King from the Flying Eye 14/3/99 Certainty level: 40% In early March 1999, Capital Radio alleged they had received some emails, one of which was forwarded to me. It contained the words, "you know this bloke, he says we're trying to kill him, we should be done for attempted manslaughter!" which Chris Tarrant had said in 1994. Following these emails there was an explosion in abuse activity, both from Capital Radio, and from MI5 themselves. MI5 followed me around and hurled abuse at me. The following audio file contains what may be abuse from the radio station. Jackie King from the Flying Eye made these remarks on Sunday (14/3/99) lunchtime 12.24pm; "gas main work being, er, HANDLED if you like (laughs, embarrassed) outside Madame Tussauds, Euston Road obviously feeling the backlash of that". The key word is "handled", which she sounds embarrassed to be saying; to me it looks like an attempt at a sexual slander. Capital Radio aren't even pretending not to get at me any more. I asked Chris Tarrant several times about his remark from 1994, and he has consistently avoided answering. 2759 -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDemon.com<<<<<<------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access

Foxy's Showtime on Capital FM 25/11/98 7.35pm Certainty level: 100% This one, I can say with absolute certainty, is about me. It was recorded on my Sony Recording Walkman on the evening of Wednesday 25 November 1998. It doesn't mention me by name, so the objective observer might have trouble understanding why I'm so sure it's about me. I'm sure, because the harassment had restarted over the period when this piece was broadcast, and what Capital transmitted would have been in context with events at the time. (Sorry if that explanation is somewhat opaque, but I don't really want to embarrass myself by giving an explanation in detail, and an intelligent reader should be able to work it out for him/her self.) This isn't the first time Capital have "got at" me; they were doing so right at the very beginning in summer 1990, when they said, "if he listens to Capital then he can't be all bad"; and Tarrant made remarks about me in his breakfast show in spring 1994, when he said, "you know this bloke? he says we're trying to kill him. We should be done for attempted manslaughter." Unfortunately I didn't record those previous, much more conclusive instances of harassment by Capital DJs, and Capital Radio tells me they only keep recordings for three months. But lately I've been recording everything, and here is one product of that recording. Neil Fox was introducing some petite Swedish songstress, sounded like Amelia, when he said something about her petite-ness ; "she's a big big girl, actually she's really about tiny, she's this big, would you say what less than....." then one of his studio staff shouted, "six inches" then Fox laughed and said, "less than a meter tall, definitely" What I think the "six inches" referred to should be obvious. I think it's sexual abuse directed at me. Also there were a lot of words like "crazy", "mad" etc on this programme, which reinforced my belief that this was on purpose directed at myself. I think Fox may be something of an unwilling participant in this abuse, he doesn't want to be an abuser but the persecutors are using his show and his staff to get at me. This is not the first time this sort of thing has happened from his show; and my guess is that it won't be the last 585 -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDemon.com<<<<<<------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access

In article <1194567677.496222.298780@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, "Phil M." <pmarg@charter.net> wrote: >What would be the best way to export Reunion for Mac v7.05 to Reunion >for Windows v4.07 or FTM 2005. From what I understand, a gedcom only >exports the "common" data fields, and uses data in different ways. Is >there a better way to do this that will export all of the data? Reunion on the Mac exports quite a few "non-standard" fields when doing an export to gedcom. Again, importing them on Reunion to another Mac will give you the same data. Importing them to an older version especially on a Windows machine is questionable.

In article <1194621962.444982.38520@z9g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, "Phil M." <pmarg@charter.net> wrote: > On Nov 9, 3:03 am, "Nigel Bufton" <ni...@bufton.org> wrote: > > "Phil M." <pm...@charter.net> wrote in message > > > > news:1194567677.496222.298780@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > > > > What would be the best way to export Reunion for Mac v7.05 to Reunion > > > for Windows v4.07 or FTM 2005. From what I understand, a gedcom only > > > exports the "common" data fields, and uses data in different ways. Is > > > there a better way to do this that will export all of the data? > > > > "From what I understand, a gedcom only exports the "common" data fields" > > > > This depends on the program; in fact the reverse as generally true. > > > > The gedcom standard permits custom tags, which programs use to export data > > that does not fall within the standard tag set. As most other programs > > would not understand a program's custom tags, they are exported primarily > > for import back into the same program. > > > > To check whether Reunion exports/imports its non-standard data using custom > > tags, you could test by exporting a gedcom and then importing it as a new > > project to see if all the Reunion data makes the round trip. > > Thanks for the info. On my Windows version of Reunion there's an > option for "File, Export, Transfer File." A message states, "This will > create a transfer file for use with: Reunion 4 for Macintosh, Reunion > 4 for Windows, The Reunion Player.' Is there an option on the Mac > version for creating a Windows version? Just wondering if this would > be better for exporting to a completely different OS. > > The Mac this is coming from used to belong to my now deceased sister. > I'm attempting to take over her extensive genealogy work. Nobody > really nows much about the Mac end of this move. Thanks for any help. > > -- > Phil M. You may wish to contact the LeisterPro help department, in the past I've seen where they have offered to convert older files to something more useful. The can be reached at: < help@leisterpro.com>

"Phil M." <pmarg@charter.net> wrote in message news:1194567677.496222.298780@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > What would be the best way to export Reunion for Mac v7.05 to Reunion > for Windows v4.07 or FTM 2005. From what I understand, a gedcom only > exports the "common" data fields, and uses data in different ways. Is > there a better way to do this that will export all of the data? > "From what I understand, a gedcom only exports the "common" data fields" This depends on the program; in fact the reverse as generally true. The gedcom standard permits custom tags, which programs use to export data that does not fall within the standard tag set. As most other programs would not understand a program's custom tags, they are exported primarily for import back into the same program. To check whether Reunion exports/imports its non-standard data using custom tags, you could test by exporting a gedcom and then importing it as a new project to see if all the Reunion data makes the round trip. Nigel www.tcgr.bufton.org

On Nov 9, 3:03 am, "Nigel Bufton" <ni...@bufton.org> wrote: > "Phil M." <pm...@charter.net> wrote in message > > news:1194567677.496222.298780@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > > What would be the best way to export Reunion for Mac v7.05 to Reunion > > for Windows v4.07 or FTM 2005. From what I understand, a gedcom only > > exports the "common" data fields, and uses data in different ways. Is > > there a better way to do this that will export all of the data? > > "From what I understand, a gedcom only exports the "common" data fields" > > This depends on the program; in fact the reverse as generally true. > > The gedcom standard permits custom tags, which programs use to export data > that does not fall within the standard tag set. As most other programs > would not understand a program's custom tags, they are exported primarily > for import back into the same program. > > To check whether Reunion exports/imports its non-standard data using custom > tags, you could test by exporting a gedcom and then importing it as a new > project to see if all the Reunion data makes the round trip. Thanks for the info. On my Windows version of Reunion there's an option for "File, Export, Transfer File." A message states, "This will create a transfer file for use with: Reunion 4 for Macintosh, Reunion 4 for Windows, The Reunion Player.' Is there an option on the Mac version for creating a Windows version? Just wondering if this would be better for exporting to a completely different OS. The Mac this is coming from used to belong to my now deceased sister. I'm attempting to take over her extensive genealogy work. Nobody really nows much about the Mac end of this move. Thanks for any help. -- Phil M.