In message of 8 Dec, "Gerry" <caoinxxx@eircom.net> wrote: > I have read many of the opinions expressed here about this product. > > I am now getting a lot of offers for FTM 2008 to which they have 'made > improvements'. > Anyone get the new improved model yet. > How do you rate it? And it would be good if anyone can say if it will produce reports in, or roughly in, the style of Burke's volumes. They define this style here: http://www.burkes-peerage.net/help/popup-faq.htm And if FTM can't do it, is there any other program that gets anywhere near? -- Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          tim@powys.org              For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/

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On 2007-11-28, Robert Melson wrote: > In article <6rt025-i8c.ln1@news.ducksburg.com>, > Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> writes: >> In the late 1970s or early 80s in either "Mathematical Games" or >> "Metamagical Themas" (Martin Gardner's and Douglas Hofstadter's >> columns, respectively) in _Scientific American_, there was an >> algorithm for a computer simulation of the quantities of surnames in a >> population over generations (iterations), based on (I think) the >> frequency distribution of numbers of sons in the late Middle Ages. >> >> In this simulation, if you started with 1000 different surnames, a lot >> of them would simply disappear and a few would become and remain >> common. This was supposed to explain why various languages/countries >> all have some especially common surnames but equivalent names (e.g. >> Smith and Schmidt) are not equally distributed between countries. >> >> If I can track down a reference to the precise article, I'll post it. > Go to the archives for alt.genealogy or soc.genealogy.computing - > I honestly don't remember which - where there's a recent thread > initiated by a fellow named Ray Lopez, on just this topic. He's > written a program to simulate the disappearance of names in a > population and would, I'm sure, be more than happy to explain > both his program and the statistics of it all. By sheer luck I found the article I was thinking about: A. K. Dewdney, "Computer recreations" (a regular column at that time, which I think came either after Hofstadter's or between Gardner's and Hofstadter's), "Branching phylogenetics of the Paleozoic and the fortunes of English family names", _Scientific American_, May 1986. Dewdney credits the surname simulation to Christopher M Sturges and Brian C Haggatt. -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

nFS: New Family Search and Evidence Hierarchy in Combining Names Why not make the nFS system do an evidence hierarchy? For each data entry, there is the "best" source record, then the next best and so on. If the system operated with a sequential presentation of formats listing the most primary record available for any given event; also, added thereto a computer system search to attach that given evidence to any indexed reproduced online original record sources, (as well as the ability to recheck these databases over time), the whole Temple Ordinance Work record system would consistently become fully acceptable, as well as train submitters in correct record keeping. Temple Ordinance Work would remain in effect, from oral tradition to original document, with the printout giving information from the most primary record. Automatically, the record system could become self correcting, whenever any name or identity was matched within the series of various references, by producing in the end, the name, dates and places noted from the most original "best" primary sources; attaching thereto the dates and the duplicates of Temple Ordinance Work done over time. This would stop, once and for all, excessive errors and weed out all entries submitted from fictitious data records, made up by individuals trying to corrupt the database, or by unintentional neglect or ignorance. I also agree that it takes human reasoning. Modify the process developed for Name Extraction Programs. . . . "To ensure accuracy, two transcriptions of each entry are made and compared to find and resolve discrepancies." http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/daily/family_history/name_eom.htm To ensure accuracy, "highlighted" information should be provided in summary format to compare and contrast submitted reference evidence discrepancies, (similar to a Norton Internet Security full system scan): I. list of total field items scanned; II. error "risks" that were detected; III. "attention required" tab: (a) requiring attention, and (b) resolved. Some problems are easily cleared up by novice submitters, while others may jeopardize the record file, with attached personal temple ordinance work. (c) Evidence Hierarchy is mandatory because: "Whenever the evidence hierarchy is altered, submissions are automatically reviewed by professional staff personnel at Church headquarters to validate the assumptions made are in accordance with professional genealogical standards, before inclusion within the Master Database." The process suggested is equivalent to an LDS Temple Ordinance Work "TITLE SEARCH". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_search Life Browser to include: ALL OF THE ABOVE, and: (1) Record of all those "who consecrate properties, and receive inheritances legally from the bishop". (2) Link reference to members, "their manner of life, their faith, and works" (Individual and Family Biographies). (3) Record of the apostates who apostatize after receiving their inheritances. Church Court link to Priesthood actions, "whose names are not found written in the book of the law, or that are found to have apostatized, or to have been cut off from the church, as well as the lesser priesthood, or the members" . . . (4) Records received from beyond the veil. This will require, in my own opinion, the restoration of the Office of Church Patriarch, within the family of Hyrum Smith, to oversee and expand the full family history record program, from Adam on down to the last person to live upon this earth, in a mortal state. The office of Stake Patriarch would provide the worldwide church channels from which The House of Israel could be brought down to the present generation, within the local jurisdiction of the Stake Presidencies of the Church, by revelation, to worthy Temple recommend holders. http://www.josephsmithsr.org/documents/newspaper/sltrib_20061230.pdf Respectfully yours, Tom Tinney, Sr. Who's Who in America, Millennium Edition [54th] through 2004 Who's Who In Genealogy and Heraldry, [both editions] http://www.academic-genealogy.com/ Family Genealogy & History Internet Education Directory

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Recently I posted a method for doing something in Excel. Anyone who thought it was worth keeping should be warned I left out a step. Between steps 6 & 7, do: > 6. Select it again (probably still is) 6.5 Edit -> Copy ( or Ctrl-C ) > 7. Edit -> Paste special -> click "Values" -> OK -- Wes Groleau Ostracism: A practice of sticking your head in the sand.

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On Nov 25, 2:29 pm, BlueBrooke wrote: > I seem to recall a comment on the Legacy Users mailing list that there > was a keyboard shortcut to insert the "Recorded Date" in the master > source definition screen -- but I can't find it now (and left the list > months ago). > > There is a button on the "details" screen to insert the date, but on > the master screen, you have to type in the date manually. I seem to > remember someone somewhere sometime said there was a "secret" shortcut > so you didn't have to do this. > > Does anyone know if this is true and, if so, what the keyboard > shortcut is? > > TIA You probably do not want an autofill for master sources. The master source date is the date of publication, etc not the date you created the master source. How would autofill know that an 1871 source was created 1Q1871? Jim

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"Denis Beauregard" <denis.b-at-francogene.com@fr.invalid> wrote in message news:tmcek3livuvvnfo1g7fhored9s5tut87qf@4ax.com... > Le Sat, 24 Nov 2007 07:52:00 +1300, "Himself" <himself@himself.com> > écrivait dans soc.genealogy.computing: > >>Now the trick will be to remove all the unwanted spaces from 3000 cells, >>the >>lazy way. Any suggestions ? > > save your excel sheet. > > add a column after this. If in column D, insert new column E. > > In the first line (cell E1), type the formula > > =trim(d1) > > copy and paste the cell to all the next lines > > highlight column E, then paste "special" and select "value" > > CHECK IF YOU DID IT CORRECTLY, i.e. if the cursor is on the new cell, > do you see the formula or the name. Use F2 to check. > > delete colomn D. > > IF YOU MADE SOMETHING WRONG, quit the sheet (no save) and reopen the > previous one. > > > IMPORTANT : I use the French version of Excel. I don't know if trim > is the right command for that. I usually proceed differently, by > using the number of characters and copy the cell minus 1 char, and > I then check again, in case some words add 2 spaces at the end. > Thanks Denis. Will give that a try also as a test. Dave's suggestion worked for the plain file I have at present, but would have lost some formatting options that might be included in the future. Help within Excel does not go into details as how to apply TRIM, as you have. My lesson learnt is to check for trailing spaces before importing additions to the spreadsheet. Keith

"Dave Hinz" <DaveHinz@gmail.com> wrote in message news:5qommeF10lbqhU3@mid.individual.net... > On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 07:52:00 +1300, Himself <himself@himself.com> wrote: > >> 1. Created in Excel and had no space at the end of the names. >> 2. Screen captured and imported with a single space at the end of the >> names. >> 3. Screen captured and heavily edited resulting, in two spaces at end of >> names. >> >> So hence the sorting result was not as expected. >> Now the trick will be to remove all the unwanted spaces from 3000 cells, >> the >> lazy way. Any suggestions ? > > Yup. Are you on anything other than Windows? If so, piece of cake with > built-in Unix stuff on your system. Otherwise, do this: (I'm winging it > but this should work) > Export your data to a CSV file > Open up the CSV file in your favorite editor (notepad if it can do > search/replace) > Find all instances of this (without the quotes): " ," and replace it > with "," (again, without the quotes) > Do it a second time to take care of the ones which were " ," but are > now " ," > Save it, get out of your editor, and then open the CSV file with Excel. > Done. > > Let me know if that works - otherwise I can probably get exotic if > needed. Thanks. No need to get exotic as your description worked. I used Notetab Lite and replaced a total of 5678 instances over multiple columns, some of which I don't need to sort on yet. Getting back to basic DOS applications can solve many problems, but I tend to forget it is an option. Trying the TRIM option within Excel didn't but I must have got the syntax wrong as it just gave #VALUE, at which point I didn't understand. Keith