I'm glad this topic came up. I began searching my own family, but when I hit a (temporary) dead end, I began collecting information on anyone with any permutation of my surname. It's so much more interesting than just one's own family! I'm wondering what are some of the good ways I can share this documentation, a lot of which contains information on living individuals. I've been distributing Excel spreadsheets, but this is not optimal. (As you may know, I've been using FTM 2008; I prefer FTM 16, and am thinking of moving to something else.) I have over 5,000 individuals in my database and am always collecting more people and information. Might it be possible to get a secure family tree website where others can view the information? Or what would be the best way of sharing the information with others? Thanks! Bob Kosovsky New York City

Ted Griffin wrote: > I've been considering buying a printer with the optional paper roll, > like the Epson R1800 or the new R1900 due out soon. Wouldn't something > like this be great for printing out charts and trees in FTM? Does > anyone have one or has used one? I'm getting tired of taping pages > together for displays at family reunions. > Griff How about any old dot-matrix printer that has sprocket feed and print on fan-fold? -- Ian Hotmail is for spammers. Real mail address is igoddard at nildram co uk

Ted Griffin wrote: > I've been considering buying a printer with the optional paper roll, > like the Epson R1800 or the new R1900 due out soon. Wouldn't something > like this be great for printing out charts and trees in FTM? Does > anyone have one or has used one? I'm getting tired of taping pages > together for displays at family reunions. > Griff I think, if your reports are large you'll still be taping. If I understand ir correctly neither will print a document more than 44" long.

"Ian Goddard" <goddai01@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:ovudnRQj8OO7RVvanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@pipex.net... > Ted Griffin wrote: >> I've been considering buying a printer with the optional paper roll, like >> the Epson R1800 or the new R1900 due out soon. Wouldn't something like >> this be great for printing out charts and trees in FTM? Does anyone have >> one or has used one? I'm getting tired of taping pages together for >> displays at family reunions. >> Griff > > How about any old dot-matrix printer that has sprocket feed and print on > fan-fold? > > -- > Ian > > Hotmail is for spammers. Real mail address is igoddard > at nildram co uk You might look into a printer that accepts Banner Paper, and buy some of that type paper. It worked out well for me at one time. But there's nothing like a large page printer but the cost of the printer an paper are too much for my hobby. You can take your CD to a Printing house like Kinko's. Ask them beforehand what formats you should use on your CD(s). Expect to pay about $20 per 4' x 5' page. -- BobF. Lincoln actually got it right but was way ahead of his time when he said, "You can have some of you computer working all of the time and all of your computer working some of the time but..." It was he that said that, wasn't it?

Mike Williams wrote: > Wasn't it who wrote: > >> Of course I guess would help if I knew exactly what I want the program to >> do for me other than just somehow making things easier. > > Some features that I find useful for an ONS that I almost never use in a > conventional family tree: > > It must be easy to break links between individuals. In an ONS I find > that it's much more common to discover that I've made Fred Hardiker the > son of the wrong James Hardiker. I never make links unless certain far too many Mary Lapham in the same parish for example > > It would also be nice to be able to do things like move various event > entries from the wrong James Hardiker to the right one without having to > retype them, and do things like merging what you previously thought were > two different James Hardiker individuals into a single individual. in FTM 16 >> Menu >> People >> Fix Relationships >> detach Child detach Spouse Attach Child Attach spouse before doing this I add a temoraray surname Zz which means i can use thge "End" key to find them very quickly in the dialog box I delet Zz after Atthing the individual also Other PARENTS defines adoption or step children too > > It would be really nice to be able to open two unrelated individuals for > editing at the same time. [The software I use doesn't do that.] to link lose ends I use Ur-Lapham with a location as a first name see http://www.google.com/search?q=ur-LAPHAM&num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&filter=0 I estimate dates of birth of parents or spouses as 20 to 30 years before the event so the eleven year span shows that is inventeed but helps with chronological sorting If I have no age at death I do not estimate adate of birth because the range is too great to be useful > I also find that I reorder the main display in unusual orders quite a > lot. The default order of Surname,Firstname isn't very useful if you've > got 852 entries for individuals with the Hardiker surname and you're > looking for someone who might have been called James Hardiker or James > Hardicker or James Hardicre who was born around 1852. > The ability to > sort by things like birth date, marriage date, death date or first name > makes looking for someone easier. In a normal family tree you might only > have a few dozen individuals with the same surname, so it's easy to scan > by surname. FTM allowas surname or date of birth only > Soundex and/or wildcard searches within the database would be nice for > that purpose too. I standardize all spelling variations with an AKA / alias LAPHAM > Software that stores a "mother's maiden name" in a searchable field > would be useful. In FTM 16 any field maybe searched from the edit menu < When you come across a birth certificate index entry > for a William Hardiker that says that his mother's maiden name is > Alston, but don't yet know who his parents actually were, it's useful to > be able to store that information. Then when you later find a marriage > between a Mr Hardiker and a Miss Alston you can quickly find individuals > in your database that might be children of that marriage. [With the > software I use, I write "mmn Alston" in a searchable note field.] I use - -- for unkown people - Alston and - HARDIKER are what I would use in your example I also have many Mary - and John - the "-" looks better in trees than "Unknown" but still forces the creation of a box > It would also be nice to be able to store events that you can't yet > associate with a particular individual. You might come across a parish > register entry for the marriage of Mary Hardiker to Arthur Shuttleworth > which doesn't state her age, and have several entries for Mary Hardikers > who are of marriageable age who lived nearby. I use "before" baptiam or burial dates for births or deaths < I don't know if there's > any software that could store that information and then be able to > attach it to the right Mary Hardiker when you find out which one that is. > FTM 16 does - but manually of course Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

Hello Griff: Epson soaks you for the paper "rolls!" But I go to printing shops and have them cut paper to size for me. They can easily cut 13" x 44". I also buy 11x17 paper from OfficeMax. I've been using an Epson 1270 for years! A friend does Genealogy using Microsoft's Visio, so he puts his text and photos where he wants. Takes them to places that have plotters and prints on 3' x 10' sheets! Not much taping there! (In fact, he doesn't tape them. He just lays them out side by side.) We use 2 or 3 3' x 8' tables to display them! That way people can stand on both sides of the display. Another friend buys his ink in jars and prints huge charts with the ink jars connected directly to his printer! There are special kits for this sold in the professional photo magazines! Good Luck! Cordially yours, Young Snodgrass On Feb 27, 6:19 pm, Ted Griffin <griff...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > I've been considering buying a printer with the optional paper roll, > like the Epson R1800 or the new R1900 due out soon.  Wouldn't something > like this be great for printing out charts and trees in FTM?  Does > anyone have one or has used one?  I'm getting tired of taping pages > together for displays at family reunions. > > Griff

shmartonak@ticnet.com wrote: > Are any of the standard genealogy programs significantly better when it > comes to doing a one name study? > > For years I've happily used BrothersKeeper for my "regular" genealogy but > it seems to be of little value for a one name study. > > Of course I guess would help if I knew exactly what I want the program to > do for me other than just somehow making things easier. > > -- > > For my one name study I use Legacy and keep documents on web. So the web site is really my research database. Items found about people kept by year. Then I can have a page comparing events for people of same name. Hopefully to work out who is who. Of course there are not that many people spelling their name LANKSHEAR but even then surprising how many were called William or Robert. The is also specific database tools for large studies such as Custodian but there is Bygones which is free http://home.utah-inter.net/bygones/ Bygones Home Page: Genealogical Research Note-Keeping Freeware In a gedcom keeping program you might want one that will print or create a web site of everyone in the program not just ancestors or descendants of a selected person -- Ron Lankshear - Sydney Aust (from London- Shepherds Bush & Chiswick) http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~lankshear/

shmartonak@ticnet.com wrote: > Are any of the standard genealogy programs significantly better when it > comes to doing a one name study? > > For years I've happily used BrothersKeeper for my "regular" genealogy but > it seems to be of little value for a one name study. > > Of course I guess would help if I knew exactly what I want the program to > do for me other than just somehow making things easier. I use FTM 16 for the data base I upload it to http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=lapham which leads to regular contacta I have a google alert running for LAPHAM which feeds me obituaries and more news and black sheep because rootsweb would not give me a third web space I used blogger for the web site # LAPHAM 1 links to LAPHAM sites around the world http://lapham36.blogspot.com/ # LAPHAM 2 sources and work done in the LAPHAM one-name study http://lapham2005.blogspot.com/ # LAPHAM 3 one-name study blog http://kilmington.blogspot.com/ I own Custodian but because it cannot export a gedcom I did not use it for more know how join http://www.one-name.org.uk/ which includes an exce3llent list too I was a memeber for a year but get more contacts from the web Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

On Feb 27, 5:49 pm, shmarto...@ticnet.com wrote: > Are any of the standard genealogy programs significantly better when it > comes to doing a one name study? > > For years I've happily used BrothersKeeper for my "regular" genealogy but > it seems to be of little value for a one name study. > > Of course I guess would help if I knew exactly what I want the program to > do for me other than just somehow making things easier. > > -- I have a one-name study on Brebner/Bremner and have found that using typical genealogy software such as BK is ideal for the creation of family trees (of which I have about 400), and using database software for the collection of events, such as births/christenings, marriage, deaths, census, gravestones etc. I use dbase IV (old but perfectly serviceable) as a database backend, which allows for sorting on any field criteria, such as maiden names, locations, dates and so-on. As an individual is linked to a family, the number assigned by the genealogy software is entered into each occurrence of that individual in the separate databases. I have about 25,000 births and a similar number of other events that are web-searchable via Mivascript. If a searched individual is linked to a genealogy, then the user has an option to view the descendency report in .pdf format. As the project progresses, and as genealogies are connected, it is a simple matter to replace the individual identifier number in all the databases to reflect the current relationships. Having ALL occurrences of a name listed in databases makes it much easier to see if there is duplication or omission in the corresponding family genealogies. Have a look at http://www.brebner.com to get an idea of the system. John I

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:49:45 -0600, shmartonak@ticnet.com wrote: > Are any of the standard genealogy programs significantly better when it > comes to doing a one name study? > > For years I've happily used BrothersKeeper for my "regular" genealogy but > it seems to be of little value for a one name study. > > Of course I guess would help if I knew exactly what I want the program to > do for me other than just somehow making things easier. I use Legacy DeLuxe for my one name study as well as my one place study and normal research. Everything is kept in its own file so I can find things quickly and easily, no matter what it is. A one study, IMO, is little different from doing normal research. You just have a predominence of one name instead of dozens/hundreds of names.

Wasn't it who wrote: >Of course I guess would help if I knew exactly what I want the program to >do for me other than just somehow making things easier. Some features that I find useful for an ONS that I almost never use in a conventional family tree: It must be easy to break links between individuals. In an ONS I find that it's much more common to discover that I've made Fred Hardiker the son of the wrong James Hardiker. It would also be nice to be able to do things like move various event entries from the wrong James Hardiker to the right one without having to retype them, and do things like merging what you previously thought were two different James Hardiker individuals into a single individual. It would be really nice to be able to open two unrelated individuals for editing at the same time. [The software I use doesn't do that.] I also find that I reorder the main display in unusual orders quite a lot. The default order of Surname,Firstname isn't very useful if you've got 852 entries for individuals with the Hardiker surname and you're looking for someone who might have been called James Hardiker or James Hardicker or James Hardicre who was born around 1852. The ability to sort by things like birth date, marriage date, death date or first name makes looking for someone easier. In a normal family tree you might only have a few dozen individuals with the same surname, so it's easy to scan by surname. Soundex and/or wildcard searches within the database would be nice for that purpose too. Software that stores a "mother's maiden name" in a searchable field would be useful. When you come across a birth certificate index entry for a William Hardiker that says that his mother's maiden name is Alston, but don't yet know who his parents actually were, it's useful to be able to store that information. Then when you later find a marriage between a Mr Hardiker and a Miss Alston you can quickly find individuals in your database that might be children of that marriage. [With the software I use, I write "mmn Alston" in a searchable note field.] It would also be nice to be able to store events that you can't yet associate with a particular individual. You might come across a parish register entry for the marriage of Mary Hardiker to Arthur Shuttleworth which doesn't state her age, and have several entries for Mary Hardikers who are of marriageable age who lived nearby. I don't know if there's any software that could store that information and then be able to attach it to the right Mary Hardiker when you find out which one that is. -- Mike Williams Gentleman of Leisure

Ted, I've had the R1800 since they came out. I've never bothered to use the paper roll. I use C size paper for family trees and maps. If I ever want to print out a tree on a roll, I'd turn that project over to Wholly Genes who uses 36" paper in the plotter, IIRC. That makes a better gift. Al At 06:19 PM 2/27/2008, you wrote: >I've been considering buying a printer with the optional paper roll, >like the Epson R1800 or the new R1900 due out soon. Wouldn't something >like this be great for printing out charts and trees in FTM? Does >anyone have one or has used one? I'm getting tired of taping pages >together for displays at family reunions. > >Griff > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GENCMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1300 - Release Date: >2/26/2008 7:50 PM

I've been considering buying a printer with the optional paper roll, like the Epson R1800 or the new R1900 due out soon. Wouldn't something like this be great for printing out charts and trees in FTM? Does anyone have one or has used one? I'm getting tired of taping pages together for displays at family reunions. Griff

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I'm coming late on this thread: On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, rsegoly wrote: > I was looking for the family of Abraham Schleifer who immigrated to US > from Romania 1904.....And a son of his Oscar who died 1995. The only Oscar Schleifer in the Social Security Death Index is one born April 15, 1889 and died May 1980. The New York Times has a paid obituary which reads: SCHLEIFER, Oscar. On May 23 at age 91. Beloved husband of the late Mary and father of Cy and Philip. Survived by two grandchildren Robert and Ronald. Body willed to science. No services.

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:41:23 -0500, singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote: >I haven't seen any traffic since the 21st or so -- even at >google.groups > >Is everyone busy or is there a break in the link somewhere? > >Cheryl ...just waiting for you, Louisiana gal. Have you ever looked at Bertie Co. NC? I knoiw you have not looked at Sullivans but perhaps you have a like problem. In the 1790 census there were 19 male Sullivans; in the 1800 census there was only 1 male Sullivan. I have turned the 1800 census every way but loose trying to analyze where they went - no joy! Bertie is the worst county I have ever tried to research - just no data. I can create all sorts of theories but I can neither confirm nor deny them. Next pump primer... Numbers of Irish emigrants went to MD and on to NC. In your experience did they stop in VA? Of course you don't have to be from LA or be named Cheryl to respond - or is that line preaching to the choir, thus superfluous? Hugh

Are any of the standard genealogy programs significantly better when it comes to doing a one name study? For years I've happily used BrothersKeeper for my "regular" genealogy but it seems to be of little value for a one name study. Of course I guess would help if I knew exactly what I want the program to do for me other than just somehow making things easier. --

I haven't seen any traffic since the 21st or so -- even at google.groups Is everyone busy or is there a break in the link somewhere? Cheryl

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message news:d-CdnfetCfI8GVjanZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@rcn.net... > > I haven't seen any traffic since the 21st or so -- even at google.groups > > Is everyone busy or is there a break in the link somewhere? > > Cheryl Have not seen any since 21st either. Joe

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