Mardon <mgb72mgb@hotmail.com> wrote: >Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote: > >> Not quite, but just this week I ran across a French birth record dated >> 29 Fev in a non-leap year, which is the same problem. > >I've learned to be especially cautious about French dates between 1793 and >1806 because of The French Revolutionary Calendar. My 2nd great >grandfather was born "15 Pluviose VIII" and my 2nd great grandmother on "4 >Messidor IV". Dates like this ought to always be recorded in their >original form. If a French date between 1793 and 1806 showed Feb 29 in a >non-leap year, I'd guess it was just an error in translation of the >calendars. This was a couple of decades after the Revolution, 1829, to be specific. lojbab

Wasn't it Peter J Seymour who wrote: >Just a thought, stemming from research into calendar differences though >history - has anyone knowledge of a person recorded as being born/dying >on the 30th February? (and did this cause any problems) The software I use (Family Historian) has the ability to record dates in Gregorian, Julian, Hebrew or French calendars. However, when using the French Republican Calendar, it insists on using the French month names which makes sense, Pluviôse really isn't February. Depending on the year, Pluviôse could run from Gregorian Jan 20, 21 or 22 to Gregorian Feb 19, 20 or 21. -- Mike Williams Gentleman of Leisure

Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote: > Not quite, but just this week I ran across a French birth record dated > 29 Fev in a non-leap year, which is the same problem. I've learned to be especially cautious about French dates between 1793 and 1806 because of The French Revolutionary Calendar. My 2nd great grandfather was born "15 Pluviose VIII" and my 2nd great grandmother on "4 Messidor IV". Dates like this ought to always be recorded in their original form. If a French date between 1793 and 1806 showed Feb 29 in a non-leap year, I'd guess it was just an error in translation of the calendars.

Don Kirkman wrote: > It seems to me I heard somewhere that Wes Groleau wrote in article > <mdlAj.221$Ls6.127@trnddc01>: > >> singhals wrote: >>> Didn't someone in the past, oh, say, month, mention software that would >>> compare databases and flag matches? > >>> Not necessarily a *specific* genealogy program database, jsut databases >>> in general? > >>> I'm looking for an easy way to vacuum up "hit" lists from Ancestry. WC, >>> Google, et al, and find the common ones. > >> IF you could get them both in GEDCOM, I would suggest >> trying out the compare functions of GIM > >> http://www.gimsoft.com > > All the download links on that page ask me for a password [Opera 9.5]. > ???? > I just tried the ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/genealgy/gim_320.zip link and that worked OK although it needed two attempts as it was busy. -- Ian Hotmail is for spammers. Real mail address is igoddard at nildram co uk

Just a thought, stemming from research into calendar differences though history - has anyone knowledge of a person recorded as being born/dying on the 30th February? (and did this cause any problems) Peter

Peter J Seymour wrote: > Just a thought, stemming from research into calendar differences though > history - has anyone knowledge of a person recorded as being born/dying > on the 30th February? (and did this cause any problems) > Peter Would whether it was a problem sort of depend on _when_? Under the really really old calendars, there was a 30 Feb, and it wouldn't have been a problem for anyone. In 1752, things were confused enough that anything is possible, and after that, drunken clerks we will have always with us. (g) Cheryl

Peter J Seymour <moz@pjsey.demon.co.uk> wrote: >Just a thought, stemming from research into calendar differences though >history - has anyone knowledge of a person recorded as being born/dying >on the 30th February? (and did this cause any problems) Not quite, but just this week I ran across a French birth record dated 29 Fev in a non-leap year, which is the same problem. I just made a note of it, but luckily the record was the day after the actual birth so, I didn't have to determine what to do with the software. Legacy lets you enter 30 Feb as a birth date, but considers it invalid (If you enter a valid date without capitals, it corrects the capitalization and abbreviates the month (and translates the French month-name to English if I didn't do it myself), but doesn't do so with invalid dates, so "30 feb 1829" continues to have a lower case F after entry. lojbab

J. Hugh Sullivan wrote: > On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 10:47:12 -0500, singhals <singhals@erols.com> > wrote: > > >>There are a couple of report-cards out there, but most are >>slightly out-dated, and AFAIK none address the VISTA issues. > > > Apparently not even Microsoft can address VISTA issues to the > satisfaction of anyone. > > However, my grandsons tell me it seems to work very well when one is > not actually using the computer. I _heard_ that! Cheryl

Ian Goddard wrote: > singhals wrote: > >> >> I've done it by hand, and it's not /that/ onerous, > > > I suppose that depends on how many hits there are. > Or one's def of onerous? (g) > >> but the person who needs it would reach for the smellin' salts if I >> mentioned Unix or even CMD lines. >> > > I suppose it's the absence of familiar sights such as the BSOD that puts > them off. No,it's more that not everyone involved with genealogy knows or cares how a computer does what it does for them, combined with my personal lack of enthusiasm for the notion of instilling that knowledge into an unwilling someone's consciousness. Cheryl

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:48:51 +0100, Lesley Robertson wrote: > Since digital came in, my phtographic spending has gone down, so it > was inevitable that something else would take its place.... That's always the way :)) > Yes, I thought Whitsome & Hilton would be small enough to be simple > (only 25-35 houses in the village itself, depending on when).... > It when I realised how long it would take before the book would be > ready that I started uploading stuff to my website! That's what I shall do - when I learn how to upload stuff in the first place!! LOL I am taking lessons :)) > Are you listed on the OPS website? > http://www.wirksworth.org.uk/oneplace.htm No, I'm not. I didn't know about the site, so thank you :)) -- Genealogy: is it a thing of the past?? http://www.spiritisup.com/colors1.swf

> > The one thing that Generations does not support and I would be a little > interested in, is the ability to enter Unicode data for names in non-Latin > alphabets. (Cyrillic and Hebrew aren't doo bad - but one of my relatives > married into a Chinese family. I have the Unicode values for their names and I > would like to be able to enter these directly - and not just put the information > in as comments with a transliterated name). > Unicode can mean that you need to use UTF-16 encoding, and I don't know of any street-level applications that can do that. I might stand corrected by someone? UTF-8 is more common, and I suggest you check with suppliers for the acceptance of this standard. There are many differences between UTF-8 and UTF-16, but anything that you can encode in UTF-16 you should be able to encode in UTF-8. It is also quite easy to convert from Unicode to UTF-8. Simply open your Unicode GEDCOM file in Windows Notepad and select "File->Save As.." from the menu and choose UTF-8 as the encoding option. You shouldn't lose any of the characters in the translation. Paul

singhals wrote: > Didn't someone in the past, oh, say, month, mention software that would > compare databases and flag matches? > > Not necessarily a *specific* genealogy program database, jsut databases > in general? > > I'm looking for an easy way to vacuum up "hit" lists from Ancestry. WC, > Google, et al, and find the common ones. IF you could get them both in GEDCOM, I would suggest trying out the compare functions of GIM http://www.gimsoft.com Also has a merge that's pretty impressive. -- Wes Groleau http://groleau.freeshell.org/teaching/

Hi! I see, You are from rootsweb.com Are you honest? My windows went blue screen of death , after intalling Windows updates. Windows does not need any reason to do that ;) But WinXP is nowadays quite stable. <bill@harrisongenealogy.co.uk> kirjoitti viestissä:mailman.353.1204903899.20268.gencmp@rootsweb.com... > Hi All > > About 10 mins after installing I got the blue screen of death and had to > re-install my latest image of my C drive since it wouldn't then boot up. > > possibly has conflictions with XP temp files etc..... > > regards > > Bill > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jack" <none@INVALIDmail.com> > Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.computing > To: <gencmp@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:37 PM > Subject: Re: Legacy Charting Pre-Release Edition Now Available > > >> >> I just heard, It has been downloaded very much, during fisrt 12 hours >> so servers are quite busy, be patient ;) >> >> Any impressions? >> >> >> "Jack" <none@INVALIDmail.com> wrote in message >> news:Witzj.36$HY5.22@read4.inet.fi... >>> Hi! >>> >>> I consider it good, what others think? >>> Download now: >>> >>> >>> http://www.LegacyCharting.com >>> >>> It is even free. >>> >>> Legacy Charting will be included with Legacy 7 Deluxe edition, but until >>> June 15, 2008, this special pre-release edition is freely available to >>> everyone. >>> >>> Oh, if you wish to oder DeLuxe Legacy: >>> http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/?Click=1192 >>> >>> >>> >>> Enjoy >>> >>> Jack >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------

singhals wrote: > > I've done it by hand, and it's not /that/ onerous, I suppose that depends on how many hits there are. >but the person who needs it would reach for the smellin' salts if I mentioned Unix or even > CMD lines. > I suppose it's the absence of familiar sights such as the BSOD that puts them off. -- Ian Hotmail is for spammers. Real mail address is igoddard at nildram co uk

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Jack wrote in article <Witzj.36$HY5.22@read4.inet.fi>: >I consider it good, what others think? >Download now: >http://www.LegacyCharting.com >It is even free. >Legacy Charting will be included with Legacy 7 Deluxe edition, but until >June 15, 2008, this special pre-release edition is freely available to >everyone. Well, actually IIUC it's not just freely available until June 15, 2008, but it expires then, too. :-) After that it apparently will be available free for those who buy Legacy 7.0. >Oh, if you wish to oder DeLuxe Legacy: >http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/?Click=1192 -- Don Kirkman

Hi All About 10 mins after installing I got the blue screen of death and had to re-install my latest image of my C drive since it wouldn't then boot up. possibly has conflictions with XP temp files etc..... regards Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack" <none@INVALIDmail.com> Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.computing To: <gencmp@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: Re: Legacy Charting Pre-Release Edition Now Available > > I just heard, It has been downloaded very much, during fisrt 12 hours > so servers are quite busy, be patient ;) > > Any impressions? > > > "Jack" <none@INVALIDmail.com> wrote in message > news:Witzj.36$HY5.22@read4.inet.fi... >> Hi! >> >> I consider it good, what others think? >> Download now: >> >> >> http://www.LegacyCharting.com >> >> It is even free. >> >> Legacy Charting will be included with Legacy 7 Deluxe edition, but until >> June 15, 2008, this special pre-release edition is freely available to >> everyone. >> >> Oh, if you wish to oder DeLuxe Legacy: >> http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/?Click=1192 >> >> >> >> Enjoy >> >> Jack >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENCMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

William M. Klein wrote: > I am new to this group. I looked for a "FAQ" but couldn't find one. I have > been (and still am) a happy user of "Generations Family Tree". However, with > all the Sierra and other "support" issues, I am beginning to look for > recommendations of which software to move to. I am certain that this is always > a "personal opinion" issues, but I did want to get as much input as possible. > If this is answered elsewhere, please just point me to good comparisons. > There are a couple of report-cards out there, but most are slightly out-dated, and AFAIK none address the VISTA issues. Try Cyndislist.com for the URLs, which I no longer have handy. > If anyone wants to answer here, I am a relatively sophisticated Windows user - > currently on XP but will probably be going to Vista sooner than later. I keep > my machine and software current. So far, I only use normal "printers" and > haven't yet found the need to do a "wall chart" print out of any of my charts - > but might want to have the ability to save such a chart to a file to take to a > printer in the future. > PAF4 and 5 use Unicode. Both are free to d/l or you can buy the CD for $5 from the LDS Distribution Centers. www.familysearch.org and select PRODUCTS tab and follow the breadcrumbs to Free Downloads. Legacy is a decent program, but I never cared about Unicode so I don't know if it does it. There is a free d/l of the basic version of this available as well. www.legacyfamilytree.com > The one thing that Generations does not support and I would be a little > interested in, is the ability to enter Unicode data for names in non-Latin > alphabets. (Cyrillic and Hebrew aren't doo bad - but one of my relatives > married into a Chinese family. I have the Unicode values for their names and I > would like to be able to enter these directly - and not just put the information > in as comments with a transliterated name). > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/whynot.htm > Finally, I would definitely want to be able to import the GEDCOM from my > existing Generations information. NO program will flawlessly and seamlessly do that. Probably not even Generations itself. Try exporting a GED from your data, and creating a new db into which you import that GED. The result is the best you're going to get with any program. Optimum is to keep both programs fully-functional until you eye-ball the new content; use copy'n'paste if something's missing. HTH Cheryl

Doesn't sound familiar. I'll look. Cheryl Carl wrote: > DBComp from Fonduc Software ?? > > Carl > > Dennis wrote: > >> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:42:06 +0000, Ian Goddard <goddai01@hotmail.co.uk> >> wrote: >> >>> singhals wrote: >>> >>>> Didn't someone in the past, oh, say, month, mention software that >>>> would compare databases and flag matches? >>>> >>>> Not necessarily a *specific* genealogy program database, jsut >>>> databases in general? >>>> >>>> I'm looking for an easy way to vacuum up "hit" lists from Ancestry. >>>> WC, Google, et al, and find the common ones. >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheryl >>> >>> I don't recall anything like that and a quick google doesn't find >>> anything. >> >> >> http://www.mudcreeksoftware.com/ has GenMatcher. >>

Dennis wrote: > On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:42:06 +0000, Ian Goddard <goddai01@hotmail.co.uk> > wrote: > > >>singhals wrote: >> >>>Didn't someone in the past, oh, say, month, mention software that would >>>compare databases and flag matches? >>> >>>Not necessarily a *specific* genealogy program database, jsut databases >>>in general? >>> >>>I'm looking for an easy way to vacuum up "hit" lists from Ancestry. WC, >>>Google, et al, and find the common ones. >>> >>> >>>Cheryl >> >>I don't recall anything like that and a quick google doesn't find >>anything. > > > http://www.mudcreeksoftware.com/ has GenMatcher. > It may come to that ... Thanks. Cheryl

Ian Goddard wrote: > singhals wrote: > >> Didn't someone in the past, oh, say, month, mention software that >> would compare databases and flag matches? >> >> Not necessarily a *specific* genealogy program database, jsut >> databases in general? >> >> I'm looking for an easy way to vacuum up "hit" lists from Ancestry. >> WC, Google, et al, and find the common ones. >> >> >> Cheryl > > > I don't recall anything like that and a quick google doesn't find > anything. Wishful thinking? > > It's an interesting problem. First of all what's the format of the hit > lists? Are the hits from all the sources in the same format? > > Secondly, most comparison tools that I can think of work on a specific > file format, usually a flat text file although there are some that work > on XML files. You would need to get the files into the appropriate format. > > Thirdly, many comparison tools do the opposite of what you want - they > look for differences. My favourite approach to looking for multiple > occurrences of *identical* lines across multiple files would be the Unix > command > > cat x y z|sort|uniq -c|sort -rn|more > > where x, y & z would be 3 file names (you can cat as few or many files > as you like). This will merge the contents into alphabetical order so > that duplicates follow each other, process each line with the count of > times it was found, re-sort them in descending order of count and page > the output. You can then see which lines were in more than one file but > not which file they were in. > > This requires that you have the hits in a common flat file format or can > convert them to that; that hits which you would consider matching are > identical within the files; that you either don't care which lists the > matches were in, don't mind just comparing them in pairs or are prepared > to hunt for them in the files and finally that you have access to > Unix-style commands (if you're on Windows only, google for "cygwin"). > Yes, quite possibly I was mis-remembering either the details or the list. I couldn't find it either. (g) I've done it by hand, and it's not /that/ onerous, but the person who needs it would reach for the smellin' salts if I mentioned Unix or even CMD lines. Thanks. Cheryl