In article <FqSdna9lofhRNHjanZ2dnUVZ8vednZ2d@pipex.net>, Ian Goddard <goddai01@hotmail.co.uk> writes: <snip> > Why not click on view headers and forward to the abuse address which is > Google (surprise, surprise!)? If we regularly did this for spammers > they might start to apply spam filters. > Ever report spam to Google? They obviously don't give a damn and have chosen to ignore their responsibilities, as you'll see from their return message. Kinda like urinating counter to the prevailing direction of the current atmospheric movement. SOB -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas ----- Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable reason so few engage in it. -- Henry Ford

Ian Goddard wrote: > Hugh Watkins wrote: >> dogqruomlrsa@yahoo.com wrote: >>> As much as you love someone, recalling the details of their life at >>> the time of their death is an overwhelming responsibility. For someone >>> close to the person dying, writing an obituary is comforting by >>> remembering the defining moments of an individual's life may bring >>> comfort. Having the obituary already written and on file with your >>> funeral provider, is not as difficult to do as you may think. >>> What is an obituary? >> >> spammer trying to earn click through dollars >> >> Hugh W >> > > Why not click on view headers and forward to the abuse address which is > Google (surprise, surprise!)? If we regularly did this for spammers > they might start to apply spam filters. > as his links are google ads I am not so certain they could be bothered each of his recent messages has a unique charming but empty of data text Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

On 2008-03-23, Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote: > Ian Goddard wrote: >> Hugh Watkins wrote: >>> dogqruomlrsa@yahoo.com wrote: >>>> As much as you love someone, recalling the details of their life at >>>> the time of their death is an overwhelming responsibility. For someone >>>> close to the person dying, writing an obituary is comforting by >>>> remembering the defining moments of an individual's life may bring >>>> comfort. Having the obituary already written and on file with your >>>> funeral provider, is not as difficult to do as you may think. >>>> What is an obituary? >>> >>> spammer trying to earn click through dollars >>> >>> Hugh W >>> >> >> Why not click on view headers and forward to the abuse address which is >> Google (surprise, surprise!)? If we regularly did this for spammers >> they might start to apply spam filters. >> > as his links are google ads I am not so certain they could be bothered > > each of his recent messages has a unique charming but empty of data text There is another risk in reporting spam to the abuse address. If the abuse address is actually owned by a spammer, as in the spammer has registered the domain himself, reporting anything to that address will get you a whole lot of new email spam. With NNTP, the risk may be low, but with email, the risk is pretty high. -- Robert Riches spamtrap42@verizon.net (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

Hugh Watkins wrote: > dogqruomlrsa@yahoo.com wrote: >> As much as you love someone, recalling the details of their life at >> the time of their death is an overwhelming responsibility. For someone >> close to the person dying, writing an obituary is comforting by >> remembering the defining moments of an individual's life may bring >> comfort. Having the obituary already written and on file with your >> funeral provider, is not as difficult to do as you may think. >> What is an obituary? > > spammer trying to earn click through dollars > > Hugh W > Why not click on view headers and forward to the abuse address which is Google (surprise, surprise!)? If we regularly did this for spammers they might start to apply spam filters. -- Ian Hotmail is for spammers. Real mail address is igoddard at nildram co uk

<dogqruomlrsa@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:9089552f-289b-4381-abf8-546e7a11ae4f@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > As much as you love someone, recalling the details of their life at > the time of their death is an overwhelming responsibility. For > someone If you know what it is why do you ask the ? Or you trying to show us what you learned in school today?

dogqruomlrsa@yahoo.com wrote: > As much as you love someone, recalling the details of their life at > the time of their death is an overwhelming responsibility. For someone > close to the person dying, writing an obituary is comforting by > remembering the defining moments of an individual's life may bring > comfort. Having the obituary already written and on file with your > funeral provider, is not as difficult to do as you may think. > What is an obituary? spammer trying to earn click through dollars Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

As much as you love someone, recalling the details of their life at the time of their death is an overwhelming responsibility. For someone close to the person dying, writing an obituary is comforting by remembering the defining moments of an individual's life may bring comfort. Having the obituary already written and on file with your funeral provider, is not as difficult to do as you may think. What is an obituary? An obituary can be a very personal look at a life. It need not only be a summation of the public facts, but a glimpse of the uniqueness, when combined with those "facts," created a personality. Written by someone who is close to you, an obituary becomes an intimate view of what made you memorable to others. Written by you, it becomes your personal life's story. One detail that often escapes even the most thorough planner is to write an obituary. Writing an obituary is another thing, that can be taken care of in advance. How to write an obituary? Writing an obituary is often helpful when someone close has died or may be dying. An obituary can be as basic as containing only public facts about a person's life like their birth, family tree, their death. One can also include the persons photograph along with the vocational and personal interests he was involved with when alive. Through an obituary one can also relate your thoughts, experiences and memories with them. An obituary also contains a list of immediate survivors like children, grandchildren, spouse or siblings who were closely associated with the deceased. As an obituary also serves as a notification that an individual has passed away, it is best to check with the newspaper services if they have space. Composing the obituary has to be carefully done as it needs to appear few days prior to the memorial service.... http://groups.google.com/group/familytreesyvs

> In the last few days I was notified by my home county GenWeb > coordinator that they would be moving to another website host and to > bear with them during the transition. > > She said they had been given only a week or so notice that after a > certain date, all RootsWeb site content would become **the property > of** Ancestry.com. > > Texas Gen I was given NO notice, other than the "fourth-hand" notice above. Reading that, I decided it was time for me to move. But, ftp to my site gets "Connect: permission denied" Cannot log in to WorldConnect either. -- Wes Groleau "But, Professor! I didn't plagiarize! I paid someone to write the essay for me, and that person plagiarized!" -- from http://rateyourstudents.blogspot.com Wes Groleau <groleau+news@freeshell.org>

Hugh Watkins wrote: > Unsprung wrote: > > > So what is your best guess? That RootsWeb will remain free within > > Ancestry but will soon contain a lot of advertising? > > it already does - also on world connect I mentored Hedvig to help her get started she found a genuine problem today context URL links starting .. were broken when she made a new page and she got an ancestry page as a 404 but by putting in a full URL she fixed it http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hedvig/en/index.html error http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hedvig/sitemap.html http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hedvig/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hedvig/ is OK and http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ the same thing happend now and then with Rootswebabyway if you did too much WYSIWYG editing site searches are messy Your search - site:freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com alison lapham - did not match any documents. Web Results 1 - 64 of 64 from freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com for alison lapham. is OK http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Afreepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com+alison+lapham&btnG=Google+Search Hugh e -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com>

> In the last few days I was notified by my home county GenWeb > coordinator that they would be moving to another website host and to > bear with them during the transition. > > She said they had been given only a week or so notice that after a > certain date, all RootsWeb site content would become **the property > of** Ancestry.com. > > Texas Gen just serious misinformation and local politics in US GenWeb not right go to the Libray of Congess site and read the copyright laws Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com>

> So what is your best guess? That RootsWeb will remain free within > Ancestry but will soon contain a lot of advertising? > > "Unsprung" <peterblood...@joimail.com> My guess is that it will become just another free database like the 1880 census. You won't be able to contribute to it or modify it, just read it. Ancestry itself will then take over all other RootsWeb functions. No more "two sides" to worry about, etc. "the_verminator@comcast.net" <the_verminator@comcast.net>

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:47:56 GMT, Wes Groleau <groleau+news@freeshell.org> wrote: > Dave Hinz wrote: >> Far as I know, DNA is what convinced the Thomas Jefferson descendants to >> accept the Sally Hemings link. > > I read a report that the DNA proof was bogus. > But > "believe half of what you read and none of what you hear" People claim all sorts of things. I did see video that was supposedly the Hemings line descendants at the last Jefferson reunion.

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:51:36 +0100, "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robertson@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote: > >"J. Hugh Sullivan" <Eagle@bellsouth.net> wrote in message >news:47dfdda2.6731569@newsgroups.bellsouth.net... >> >> Where is the flaw in my logic? >> >You also need to show that nobody else of that particular line (a distant >cousin, or an Uncle, for example) ever emigrated to the area upstream of >your paper trail and could have been the ancestor. >Lesley Robertson > > I know where each of the line went. When I say that I should add, I developed it from the mythical and historical books on the Irish back to creation. So any line that anyone develops is only as accurate as the source from whence it came. I have recorded the name of every Sullivan I have found in the area where my gg grand was born. My attempts have been to identify the line of every one so I could eliminate the impossible. SInce I'm talking about 1790 I used the census to learn the names. Obviously the census is not perfect but we can't relay on what we don't have - only what we have. I believe in preponderance of evidence until disproven. Hugh

"J. Hugh Sullivan" <Eagle@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:47dfdda2.6731569@newsgroups.bellsouth.net... > > Where is the flaw in my logic? > You also need to show that nobody else of that particular line (a distant cousin, or an Uncle, for example) ever emigrated to the area upstream of your paper trail and could have been the ancestor. Lesley Robertson

Unsprung wrote: > So what is your best guess? That RootsWeb will remain free within > Ancestry but will soon contain a lot of advertising? it already does - also on world connect Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com>

Robert Melson wrote: > Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> writes: > > > > Please 'scuse the multi-post .. thought it the best way > > > to get this out to "my" groups. > > > > > > Interesting article here: > > > > > > http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2008/03/rootsweb-to-be.html > > > > > > See also: http?//blogs.rootsweb.com/newsroom > > > > > > RootsWeb to be Moved to Ancestry.com. > > > > > > As a more-or-less skeptic, I wonder when the other shoe will drop > > > and RW will be either terminated or become a for-a-fee service, > > > despite Sullivan's claims to the contrary.. > > > > > > Suspicious Ol' Bob > > > > silly old BOB > > > > my own > > http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Ednkcen/index.html > > > > is now also > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Ednkcen/index.html > > and the old links all work by redirects > > > > Hugh W > > 'Scuse me, Hugh, but that's NOW. Have you thought about, say, 6 > months or a year from now? I am not saying anything WILL happen, > only wondering if it MIGHT, and I wouldn't be at all surprised. > Unlike certain unnamed parties, I have no faith in the kindness and > generosity of Ancestry OR their parent corporation, who're in this > for the money and not because they're altruists. show me your own websites on rootsweb I have at least ten thousand pages including world connect if "they" can make money out of my humble efforts, good luck to them because they will enable my work to survive my own death Huh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com>

Robert Melson wrote: > Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> writes: > > > > Please 'scuse the multi-post .. thought it the best way > > > to get this out to "my" groups. > > > > > > Interesting article here: > > > > > > http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2008/03/rootsweb-to-be.html > > > > > > See also: http?//blogs.rootsweb.com/newsroom > > > > > > RootsWeb to be Moved to Ancestry.com. > > > > > > As a more-or-less skeptic, I wonder when the other shoe will drop > > > and RW will be either terminated or become a for-a-fee service, > > > despite Sullivan's claims to the contrary.. > > > > > > Suspicious Ol' Bob > > > > silly old BOB > > > > my own > > http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Ednkcen/index.html > > > > is now also > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Ednkcen/index.html > > and the old links all work by redirects > > > > Hugh W > > 'Scuse me, Hugh, but that's NOW. Have you thought about, say, 6 > months or a year from now? I am not saying anything WILL happen, > only wondering if it MIGHT, and I wouldn't be at all surprised. > Unlike certain unnamed parties, I have no faith in the kindness and > generosity of Ancestry OR their parent corporation, who're in this > for the money and not because they're altruists. exactly the profit motive means that they will concentrate on survival in the face of increasing market saturation and competition remember dejanews? Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com>

Robert Melson wrote: > clifto <clifto@gmail.com> writes: > > > Robert Melson wrote: > > > > > Please 'scuse the multi-post .. thought it the best way > > > to get this out to "my" groups. > > > > Just FYI, you did a cross-post, not a multi-post, and a cross-post > > was a more appropriate thing to do. Multi-posting (posting several > > individual articles to several individual newsgroups) is almost > > never appropriate. > > Yeah. I realized I had misspoken only AFTER I'd hit the "post" > button. Mea culpa, mea MAXIMA culpa (sound effect of cloth tearing, > signifying my rending the hem of my garment). 1. You did just fine. 2. At least you were considerate enough to think about what you were doing. We don't see that every day. Hell, every week. -- Iran tells us what the mainstream media won't: "A new opinion poll suggests that over 54 percent of Americans do not trust mainstream media and consider news websites more reliable." <http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=46837&sectionid=3510203> clifto <clifto@gmail.com>

In the last few days I was notified by my home county GenWeb coordinator that they would be moving to another website host and to bear with them during the transition. She said they had been given only a week or so notice that after a certain date, all RootsWeb site content would become **the property of** Ancestry.com. Donna "Texas Gen" <texas.gen@gmail.com>

I've written - let me know whether my message gets thru. Bob K. On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:36:05 GMT, Wes Groleau <groleau+news@freeshell.org> wrote: >Power-Post 2K wrote: >> Considering that I'm Jewish and my paternal ancestry is from Belarus, > >Please write me. I have some information for you.