singhals wrote: > Anyone have a copy of that free-for-download program they're not using? > > It was mentioned in a 2008 Genealogy blog, but the wayback machine keeps > disconnecting me when I try to d/l it. > > www.thegenealogyshop.com > > Cheryl -- who suspects it won't do what she thinks it will but is will > to be proven wrong. Looking at the blurb on the archived site it appears that it requires form templates and only one (for one specific year of US census) is supplied with the free download so unless it was that particular source you wanted to use it on I think you'd have been disappointed anyway. -- Ian The Hotmail address is my spam-bin. Real mail address is iang at austonley org uk

Ian Goddard wrote: > singhals wrote: >> Anyone have a copy of that free-for-download program they're not using? >> >> It was mentioned in a 2008 Genealogy blog, but the wayback machine keeps >> disconnecting me when I try to d/l it. >> >> www.thegenealogyshop.com >> >> Cheryl -- who suspects it won't do what she thinks it will but is will >> to be proven wrong. > > Looking at the blurb on the archived site it appears that it requires > form templates and only one (for one specific year of US census) is > supplied with the free download so unless it was that particular source > you wanted to use it on I think you'd have been disappointed anyway. > Wow. You're right -- not anything like I was given to think it was. Ah, well, now I know. Thanks, Ian. Cheryl

On 12 Jul 2011 in soc.genealogy.computing, singhals wrote: > Anyone have a copy of that free-for-download program they're > not using? > > It was mentioned in a 2008 Genealogy blog, but the wayback > machine keeps disconnecting me when I try to d/l it. > > www.thegenealogyshop.com > > Cheryl -- who suspects it won't do what she thinks it will > but is will to be proven wrong. FWIW - this from Google's cache of the Association of Professional Genealogists' website (http://www.apgen.org/), dated May 2, 2011; as of today, her name doesn't come up there on a search: Annette Harper View Map The Genealogys Shop, LLC Summary Tab Extended Tab Biography: Annette Harper is the owner of The Genealogy Shop, opening in the Spring of 2009 in beautiful, historic Madison, Indiana. She is the author of facTree, a productivity tool for genealogists. Annette's research experience centers on the Ohio River counties of Jefferson, Switzerland, and Clark in Indiana and adjacent counties in Kentucky. Time Period Specialty: 19th Century ; 20th Century Geographic Specialty: IN ; KY ; Cincinnati ; Indianapolis Related Services: Bookseller ; Technology ; Editor ; Publisher ; Web Designer ; Author/Writer Accepts Clients: Yes Address: 309 Jefferson Street City: Madison State: IN Postal Code: 47250 County: Jefferson Day Phone: (812) 801-4239 Evening Phone: (614) 306-8034 Email: [email protected] Web Site: http:www.thegenealogyshop.com -- Joe Makowiec http://makowiec.org/ Email: http://makowiec.org/contact/?Joe Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

Thanks, Joe; I hadn't thought of that! Cheryl Joe Makowiec wrote: > On 12 Jul 2011 in soc.genealogy.computing, singhals wrote: > >> Anyone have a copy of that free-for-download program they're >> not using? >> >> It was mentioned in a 2008 Genealogy blog, but the wayback >> machine keeps disconnecting me when I try to d/l it. >> >> www.thegenealogyshop.com >> >> Cheryl -- who suspects it won't do what she thinks it will >> but is will to be proven wrong. > > FWIW - this from Google's cache of the Association of Professional > Genealogists' website (http://www.apgen.org/), dated May 2, 2011; as of > today, her name doesn't come up there on a search: > > Annette Harper > > View Map > The Genealogys Shop, LLC > Summary Tab > Extended Tab > Biography: > Annette Harper is the owner of The Genealogy Shop, opening in the > Spring of 2009 in beautiful, historic Madison, Indiana. She is the > author of facTree, a productivity tool for genealogists. Annette's > research experience centers on the Ohio River counties of Jefferson, > Switzerland, and Clark in Indiana and adjacent counties in Kentucky. > > Time Period Specialty: 19th Century ; 20th Century > > Geographic Specialty: IN ; KY ; Cincinnati ; Indianapolis > > Related Services: Bookseller ; Technology ; Editor ; Publisher ; Web > Designer ; Author/Writer > > Accepts Clients: Yes > > Address: 309 Jefferson Street > City: Madison > State: IN > Postal Code: 47250 > County: Jefferson > Day Phone: (812) 801-4239 > Evening Phone: (614) 306-8034 > Email: [email protected] > Web Site: http:www.thegenealogyshop.com >

Anyone have a copy of that free-for-download program they're not using? It was mentioned in a 2008 Genealogy blog, but the wayback machine keeps disconnecting me when I try to d/l it. www.thegenealogyshop.com Cheryl -- who suspects it won't do what she thinks it will but is will to be proven wrong.

Convince Me That Genealogy Is A Science Donald Lines Jacobus, MA, FASG of New Haven, Connecticut, wrote an article in The American Genealogist, Volume 10, Page 65 (October 1933), entitled: Is Genealogy An Exact Science? http://www.progenealogists.com/exactscience.htm Professional genealogists or family historians use primary information for direct observation and personal evaluation. The first item at SCIENTISTS and TEACHERS, concerns Stephen J Danko's: Applying the Scientific Method. He believes "that genealogists obtain information by observation or experimentation - the very definition of how one obtains information in any empirical science". http://www.academic-genealogy.com/science.htm#scientists Nevertheless, my observation in the use of professional skill to obtain further data, in tracing back family lineages, relies fundamentally upon record sources that relate to the core economic foundation documents of individuals and family units. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_economics History is not clearly understood, unless careful consideration is given to the Industrial Revolution, [a period from the 18th to the 19th century where major changes in agriculture, manufacturing, mining, transportation, and technology had a profound effect on the socioeconomic and cultural conditions of the times. It began in the United Kingdom, then subsequently spread throughout Europe, North America, and eventually the world. The Industrial Revolution marks a major turning point in human history; almost every aspect of daily life was influenced in some way.] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Revolution Prior to this time, essentially, traditional family economics were basically connected to kinship-based reciprocity, which kept the various regional and sectional traditional societies together, from commanding royalty to the least of souls in the social hierarchy. Professor William T. O’Hara wrote Centuries of Success. http://www.amazon.com/William-T.-OHara/e/B001K8B90G “Before the multinational corporation, there was family business. Before the Industrial Revolution, there was family business. Before the enlightenment of Greece and the empire of Rome, there was family business.” http://www.griequity.com/resources/industryandissues/familybusiness/oldestinworld.html Adam Smith wrote, at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Smith "It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest." In other words, from a genealogical standpoint, this would be regarded as essentially connected to kinship-based reciprocity of the butcher's kin, the brewer's kin or the baker's kin; then, later modified into the more independent "Economic Man" or lately, "Economic Woman", modern connections outside the family unit that are more prevalent to personal interests. http://www.jstor.org/pss/3083230 It is impossible to search for records appropriately, unless proper consideration is given to each family unit, as they relate over time, to this new social order, based on major industrial change. Thus I have clearly stated heretofore, the essential need for extrapolating trends into the past, as a function of conditions, characteristics and data records, endogenous to current variables in family performance. The scientific method may be used to specifically evaluate the credibility of variously layered record sources over time, using stringent standards of professional evaluation; nevertheless, the accumulating direction is in my mind, a basic process of economic projection methodology, if done properly, using present data to "forecast"; i.e., to find past data points on an individual's pedigree. Again, this "genealogical perspective" is a scientific method of looking to the past, by using a "reverse" process of economic projection methodology; i.e., [an absent or imagined person (prior to genealogical confirmation from primary source documentation) is figured forth -- the "face created" as the Greek suggests -- in words, as if present (after the pedigree is established according to the current genealogical proof standard).] http://www.academic-genealogy.com/academiceducationlearningresources.htm Respectfully yours, V. Chris & Tom Tinney, Sr. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/

singhals wrote: > I need to rotate an image 45-degrees. None of my friends > have photoware that does that. > > So, do any of the programs do it in the newer versions? > > They will all rotate 90, 180, or 270; I need 45 -- easier > than clipping image, rotating, rescanning, and cleaning it > all up again! > > Cheryl Gimp Herman Viaene -- Veel mensen danken hun goed geweten aan hun slecht geheugen. (G. Bomans) Lots of people owe their good conscience to their bad memory (G. Bomans)

"singhals" wrote in message news:[email protected] Lesley Robertson wrote: > > "singhals"<[email protected]> wrote in message > news:[email protected] >> I need to rotate an image 45-degrees. None of my friends have >> photoware >> that does that. >> >> So, do any of the programs do it in the newer versions? >> >> They will all rotate 90, 180, or 270; I need 45 -- easier than >> clipping >> image, rotating, rescanning, and cleaning it all up again! >> >> Cheryl > > Photoshop does it - it'll let you define exactly how many degrees, > and in > what direction. The Essentials version has everything I need (rather > than > pay for the full version). If it's a one-off, you might find a demo > somewhere. Alternatively, a lot of scanners and printers have a copy > supplied with them. Hmm ... not in the version I've got. But, my D-i-L is expected back tomorrow, so I'll let her do it with her v9. (g) **************** I have v7. Go to Image > Rotate > Custom. Feed it the number of degrees you want, and whether right or left. My last version did it as well - may have been v5. Lesley Robertson

On 07-08-2011 10:42, singhals wrote: > I need to rotate an image 45-degrees. None of my friends have photoware > that does that. > > So, do any of the programs do it in the newer versions? > > They will all rotate 90, 180, or 270; I need 45 -- easier than clipping > image, rotating, rescanning, and cleaning it all up again! Windows: Paint.net, free. Mac: GraphicConverter, free, but nags you after thirty days. Linux: Lots of free ones, but I am not familiar with any. Most of the Linux ones will work on Mac after recompiling. -- Wes Groleau There are two types of people in the world … http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett?itemid=1157

On Friday 08 July 2011 18:36, Wes Groleau ([email protected]) opined: > On 07-08-2011 10:42, singhals wrote: >> I need to rotate an image 45-degrees. None of my friends have photoware >> that does that. >> >> So, do any of the programs do it in the newer versions? >> >> They will all rotate 90, 180, or 270; I need 45 -- easier than clipping >> image, rotating, rescanning, and cleaning it all up again! > > Windows: Paint.net, free. > > Mac: GraphicConverter, free, but nags you after thirty days. > > Linux: Lots of free ones, but I am not familiar with any. > > Most of the Linux ones will work on Mac after recompiling. > > -- > Wes Groleau > > There are two types of people in the world … > http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett?itemid=1157 GIMP (Gnu Image Manipulation Program), http://www.gimp.org is available for most platforms, including windoze. See the webpage. I just tested and it's capable of cw/ccw rotations of any degree (you should 'scuse the unintended pun), including fractional degrees. Swell Ol' Bob -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas ----- The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes -- Thomas Paine

"singhals" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] >I need to rotate an image 45-degrees. None of my friends have photoware >that does that. > > So, do any of the programs do it in the newer versions? > > They will all rotate 90, 180, or 270; I need 45 -- easier than clipping > image, rotating, rescanning, and cleaning it all up again! > > Cheryl Photoshop does it - it'll let you define exactly how many degrees, and in what direction. The Essentials version has everything I need (rather than pay for the full version). If it's a one-off, you might find a demo somewhere. Alternatively, a lot of scanners and printers have a copy supplied with them. Lesley Robertson

On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:42:12 -0400, singhals <[email protected]> wrote: >I need to rotate an image 45-degrees. None of my friends >have photoware that does that. > >So, do any of the programs do it in the newer versions? > >They will all rotate 90, 180, or 270; I need 45 -- easier >than clipping image, rotating, rescanning, and cleaning it >all up again! > >Cheryl I usually use an old version of Photoshop, which of course does it easily. I just checked my version of Photoshop Elements (v9) and it also will do it easily.

On 08/07/2011 15:42, singhals wrote: > I need to rotate an image 45-degrees. None of my friends have photoware > that does that. IrfanView (http://www.irfanview.com/) rotates by any amount you like. Free for non-commerical use, and an excellent tool. -- Cheers, Roger

[email protected] wrote: > On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:42:03 -0400, singhals<[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Roger Firth wrote: >>> On 08/07/2011 15:42, singhals wrote: >>>> I need to rotate an image 45-degrees. None of my friends have photoware >>>> that does that. >>> >>> IrfanView (http://www.irfanview.com/) rotates by any amount you like. >>> Free for non-commerical use, and an excellent tool. >>> >> >> Didn't find that option ... where do I look? In case I get >> the urge before my D-i-L gets home? >> >> Cheryl > > In version 4.28, click Image then Custom/Fine Rotation and put in the > amount of rotation in degrees and tenths - 45 is the default, but > anything in +/-360 is valid. > Thanks! Cheryl

On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:42:03 -0400, singhals <[email protected]> wrote: >Roger Firth wrote: >> On 08/07/2011 15:42, singhals wrote: >>> I need to rotate an image 45-degrees. None of my friends have photoware >>> that does that. >> >> IrfanView (http://www.irfanview.com/) rotates by any amount you like. >> Free for non-commerical use, and an excellent tool. >> > >Didn't find that option ... where do I look? In case I get >the urge before my D-i-L gets home? > >Cheryl In version 4.28, click Image then Custom/Fine Rotation and put in the amount of rotation in degrees and tenths - 45 is the default, but anything in +/-360 is valid. John

Roger Firth wrote: > On 08/07/2011 15:42, singhals wrote: >> I need to rotate an image 45-degrees. None of my friends have photoware >> that does that. > > IrfanView (http://www.irfanview.com/) rotates by any amount you like. > Free for non-commerical use, and an excellent tool. > Didn't find that option ... where do I look? In case I get the urge before my D-i-L gets home? Cheryl

Lesley Robertson wrote: > > "singhals"<[email protected]> wrote in message > news:[email protected] >> I need to rotate an image 45-degrees. None of my friends have photoware >> that does that. >> >> So, do any of the programs do it in the newer versions? >> >> They will all rotate 90, 180, or 270; I need 45 -- easier than clipping >> image, rotating, rescanning, and cleaning it all up again! >> >> Cheryl > > Photoshop does it - it'll let you define exactly how many degrees, and in > what direction. The Essentials version has everything I need (rather than > pay for the full version). If it's a one-off, you might find a demo > somewhere. Alternatively, a lot of scanners and printers have a copy > supplied with them. Hmm ... not in the version I've got. But, my D-i-L is expected back tomorrow, so I'll let her do it with her v9. (g) Thanks. Cheryl

I need to rotate an image 45-degrees. None of my friends have photoware that does that. So, do any of the programs do it in the newer versions? They will all rotate 90, 180, or 270; I need 45 -- easier than clipping image, rotating, rescanning, and cleaning it all up again! Cheryl

On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 21:57:40 +0200, Kurt F <[email protected]> wrote: >This is for FTM 2006: (I haven´t felt any need to upgrade...) > >1. Start FTM >2. File -> Export File -> Entire file... -> "Enter" >3. In the box "Save as type:" Choose GEDCOM. >3a. Write a file name or accept the file name given. >4. Press "Save" and then "OK" in the small window that opens. >5. Done. Thanks very much. It worked! -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

On 2011-07-06 21:19, Steve Hayes wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:10:53 +0200, john<[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On 06/07/2011 19:35, Steve Hayes wrote: >>> I asked someone to send me a GEDCOM file of a certain family, but the file >>> they sent has a .ftmb ending, and programs that are supposed to open GEDCOM >>> files won't open it. >>> >>> Is this a new version of Gedcom? >>> >>> If not, what program will open it? >>> >>> >> http://www.google.com/search?&ie=UTF-8&q=.ftmb >> >> Get them to export a GEDCOM unless you have FTM > > That was their attempt to export to a Gedcom. > > They obviously don't know how to do it, so I'd be very grateful if someone who > is familiar with FTM could post simple step by step instructions on how to > create a GEDCOM file in that program, which I could then pass on to the person > who sent me that file. Steve, This is for FTM 2006: (I haven´t felt any need to upgrade...) 1. Start FTM 2. File -> Export File -> Entire file... -> "Enter" 3. In the box "Save as type:" Choose GEDCOM. 3a. Write a file name or accept the file name given. 4. Press "Save" and then "OK" in the small window that opens. 5. Done. Kurt F