On 22-09-2013 22:53, Charles Ellson wrote: > On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 21:34:02 +0100, BobC <calverb-null@yahoo.co.uk> > wrote: > >> In article <l1n26k$5ps$1@dont-email.me>, >> f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@THISgmail.com says... >>> >>> On 22-09-2013 16:53, Richard van Schaik wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> While playing a but with the new beta of the National Archives I came >>>> across: >>>> http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/s/res?_fn=&_ln=Schaik&_occ=&_pl=&_q=&_sd=&_ed=&_ser=PROB+11&_dt=W&_col=online&image1.x=59&image1.y=18 >>>> >>>> That is the family http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/TNCg04.htm#43010 and I >>>> never found anything indicating they had some connection in England >>>> (Excuse but the page is mostly in Dutch). So I'm wondering why there is >>>> a will for both of them in England and maybe some is willing to look at >>>> those wills to see if it will be worthwhile for me to download them. It >>>> is for my research of the surname Van Schaik in any spelling but I do >>>> not have any connection to this family (as yet that is). >>> >>> See now I overlooked that there is some information about property in >>> England mentioned in 1760 and 1787 in Utrecht. >>> >>> Richard >> >> I think that provides your answer - the wills would have to be proved in >> England >> > The wills are proved in their home country. The appropriate authority > in England (now a judge who signs and seals the foreign grant or > equivalent - see e.g. the many entries in the PRFD indexes for > Scottish grants which have been re-sealed) allows the instructions in > the will to be exercised in England so far as they accord with English > Law. In the case of Scottish wills post 1857 whose grants have been > re-sealed there are no copies of the wills held by the PRFD but if any > foreign _grants_ were filed and they were indivisible from the > associated will then possibly there might be something held in > England. Any new to me, like English possessions clearly described, family not known mentioned or the like is for me enough information to download. Richard -- Richard van Schaik f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@THISgmail.com http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/ The world is one big madhouse and this is main office.

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 01:47:24 +0200, Richard van Schaik <f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@THISgmail.com> wrote: >On 22-09-2013 22:53, Charles Ellson wrote: >> On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 21:34:02 +0100, BobC <calverb-null@yahoo.co.uk> >> wrote: >> >>> In article <l1n26k$5ps$1@dont-email.me>, >>> f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@THISgmail.com says... >>>> >>>> On 22-09-2013 16:53, Richard van Schaik wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> While playing a but with the new beta of the National Archives I came >>>>> across: >>>>> http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/s/res?_fn=&_ln=Schaik&_occ=&_pl=&_q=&_sd=&_ed=&_ser=PROB+11&_dt=W&_col=online&image1.x=59&image1.y=18 >>>>> >>>>> That is the family http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/TNCg04.htm#43010 and I >>>>> never found anything indicating they had some connection in England >>>>> (Excuse but the page is mostly in Dutch). So I'm wondering why there is >>>>> a will for both of them in England and maybe some is willing to look at >>>>> those wills to see if it will be worthwhile for me to download them. It >>>>> is for my research of the surname Van Schaik in any spelling but I do >>>>> not have any connection to this family (as yet that is). >>>> >>>> See now I overlooked that there is some information about property in >>>> England mentioned in 1760 and 1787 in Utrecht. >>>> >>>> Richard >>> >>> I think that provides your answer - the wills would have to be proved in >>> England >>> >> The wills are proved in their home country. The appropriate authority >> in England (now a judge who signs and seals the foreign grant or >> equivalent - see e.g. the many entries in the PRFD indexes for >> Scottish grants which have been re-sealed) allows the instructions in >> the will to be exercised in England so far as they accord with English >> Law. In the case of Scottish wills post 1857 whose grants have been >> re-sealed there are no copies of the wills held by the PRFD but if any >> foreign _grants_ were filed and they were indivisible from the >> associated will then possibly there might be something held in >> England. > >Any new to me, like English possessions clearly described, family not >known mentioned or the like is for me enough information to download. > Well, the index does specify the "will" in both cases (and 3 pages for each) so that is what you should expect to find but it's no great expense anyway. Have you also allowed for any wills which might have been dealt with by the Prerogative Court of York (the decider being the location of the willed property) which are indexed in origins.net ? [http://www.origins.net/help/aboutNWI-yprex.aspx] "If the property were all within the province of York, probate would be dealt with by the Prerogative Court of York (PCY), otherwise by the Prerogative Court of Canterbury (PCC). So if property were owned in both provinces, probate was dealt with by PCC, the senior court." This should mean that you don't have to search again for the two people you have already found.