Morning All My Gt Grandfather was Henry Keyworth, born C1851 in Caistor, Lincs Most family trees online show him as the son of Francis & Elizabeth (nee Gorbutt), in line with the 1861 census. However, the 1851 census has him listed as the grandson of Francis & Elizabeth.(4 months old) To me this is more compelling A birth registered in Caistor Oct 1850 for a Henry Keyworth lists a Fanny Keyworth as mother There is no record of Francis & Elizabeth having a daughter by that name (or Frances) The oldest daughter Was Mary b 1831 I have been assuming that Mary (maybe a second name as Frances) gave birth to Henry. She is listed as a servant in a nearby house on census nighwhich would explain why Henry was with grandparents. Then I concluded she left him with the Grandparents who raised him as their own Added research raises some other interesting info In the same house in the 1951 census was a Frances Gorbutt, Elizabeth's younger sister (15) Was she the mother of Henry?? and Francis and Elizabeth took him in as their own allowing their surname on the birth certificate to make it easier?? They also had a son George b 1836 He could have fathered a son (at least biologically speaking). He married a Frances Hall(Fanny) in 1864 who was born in 1832 A long time from birth of Henry( if they were the parents) with 8 other children listed after the wedding!! Living in Western Australia means access to records is restricted to online databases and I cannot afford to subscribe to the all. (Most info from Ancestry) Can anyone of the experts out there shed any light on this? I would really like to get past this brick wall Many thanks Phil -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 199 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen