On Sun, 01 Sep 2013 18:36:45 +0200, Mike Fry <mikefry@iafrica.com> wrote: >On 2013/08/31 19:44, Charles Ellson wrote: > >> In case FMP hasn't got it, the closest match in Ancestry is George >> BULL, 27y, clerk, arriving on the Andania at Port of London (i.e. >> anywhere between Teddington and the North Sea) on 29 Jun 1914 but he >> is unaccompanied. > >Wrong! Port of London has always been defined as that part of Thames from London >Bridge out to the North Sea i.e. the navigable (for tall-masted ships) part of >the river. The Tideway extends up to Teddington Lock. > No - Right ! :- Schedule 1, Port of London Authority Act 1968 :- Section 2 DESCRIPTION OF PORT LIMITS 1. In this Schedule- " the landward limit "means a line drawn across the Thames from a stone pillar erected at grid co-ordinates T.Q. 16361 71912 on the Surrey bank by the Port Authority and the Thames Conservators to the nearest point of mean high water level on the Middlesex bank; Here's a photo from the vicinity of the OS reference :- http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1178805 The "Port" is an area not any particular place within it so the absence of landing/boarding facilities at a location does not mean any place is not in the Port. While the average ocean-going passenger vessel is unlikely to have reached Tower Bridge, smaller vessels and tenders might on occasion have had reason to proceed further upriver with passengers or OTOH have gone to various parts of the Thames Estuary further from London in the other direction. The relevance to the matter in hand is that many passengers recorded as arriving/departing in (the Port of) London might never have been in London at all and any of their own records/recollections of such events might make no reference to London. The common example will be those using Tilbury in Essex; someone later matching their description of the event to the lists in Ancestry, FMP etc. might not know that e.g. descriptions of "[Port of] London" in those lists and Tilbury elsewhere are dealing with the same event.
>> Wrong! > No - Right ! :- Reminds me of.. http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/myl/llog/duty_calls.png