On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:15:08 +0100, Charles Ellson <ce11son@yahoo.ca> wrote: >On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 18:34:20 +0100, Tickettyboo ><tickettyboo@mail2oops.com> wrote: > >>On 2013-06-13 18:22:37 +0100, David Mills said: >> >>> On 13/06/2013 16:17, Tickettyboo wrote: >>>> On 2013-06-12 21:52:01 +0100, David Mills said: >>>> >>>>> On 12/06/2013 19:28, Charles Ellson wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:46:16 +0100, David Mills >>>>>> <dcm19401@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/06/2013 23:29, Charles Ellson wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:12:09 +0100, David Mills >>>>>>>> <dcm19401@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My g/gfather ,born ca 1853 was described in the 1911 as an army >>>>>>>>> pensioner. >>>>>>>>> He served practically his whole time in Ireland and then India >>>>>>>>> I have found several alternatives from Free BMD as to where and >>>>>>>>> when he died. >>>>>>>>> Presumably his pension ceased when he died, so can anyone tell me >>>>>>>>> how I >>>>>>>>> can find this information? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Generally in the National Archives at Kew. See e.g. :- >>>>>>>> http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/britisharmysoldierupto1913.htm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [soldiers] >>>>>>>> http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/britisharmyofficerbefore1913.htm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [officers] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Note that FreeBMD only covers England and Wales, he would only have >>>>>>>> needed to be away for the weekend to escape inclusion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for Scotland :- >>>>>>>> copies of films of death register indexes are available at various LDS >>>>>>>> family history centres, the electronic version can be searched in >>>>>>>> www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for Ireland :- >>>>>>>> see www.familysearch.org for an electronic version of the deaths >>>>>>>> indexes up to the 1950s. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mann :- >>>>>>>> http://www.manxbmd.com/ (third party electronic version of indexes) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, if he was domiciled in England and Wales and left estate >>>>>>>> requiring probate or administration then wherever he died he should >>>>>>>> feature in the PRFD indexes which can be viewed (up to 196x) in >>>>>>>> Ancestry and compared with your list of possible death index entries. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have his army record which goes from his enlistment to the time he >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> discharged. >>>>>>> However what I am looking for is the date at which his pension >>>>>>> ceased to >>>>>>> be paid. >>>>>>> Is this >>>>>>> This will then give an approximate date of death which will cut down >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> number certificates I will have to buy. >>>>>>> >>>>>> If there is a match in the PRFD indexes then that should give you the >>>>>> actual date of his death and maybe the place. Can you give us his name >>>>>> and birth year and last known whereabouts ? Am I correct in thinking >>>>>> you don't have access to Ancestry ? >>>>>> >>>>> His name was Thomas Aldridge, born 1853 in Braughing,Herts., living >>>>> according to the 1911 census in East Ham with his son Jesse. >>>>> He serve in the army from 1869 to 1888 most of the time in India. >>>>> That is the last sighting of him. >>>>> Jesse was a lot easier to follow into the future. >>>> >>>> There are two entries in the GRO deaths index for Thomas Aldridge born >>>> 1853+/- a year who died in the London area. >>>> 1911 Q3 Fulham - there is a likely corresponding Probate Calendar entry >>>> for this man: >>>> Probate Calendar Thomas of 49 Kinnoul-road Fulham Middlesex, died 24 >>>> September 1911, Administration London 9 October ro Arthur Aldridge >>>> fitter. Effects £300 7s 1d >>>> >>>> The other one was 1929 Q2 St George Hanover Square, I can't see a >>>> Probate Calendar entry for this one, but I looked at the London >>>> Electoral roll for 1929 (which was in force 1st May 1929 to 14th October >>>> 1930, so probably compiled before this death date) and there was a >>>> Thomas Aldridge registered to vote in the Royal Hospital District. > He was also listed there in 1926 and 1927 but doesn't seem to show up earlier or late than than 1926-1929. >>>> His address was Long Ward so it would seem he was an In Pensioner. Maybe >>>> it was 'your' Thomas and he gave up his pension and went to live in when >>>> he got old? >>>> Its a long shot, I know. >>>> >>>> http://www.chelsea-pensioners.co.uk/tracing-chelsea-pensioner-ancestors >>>> >>>> That page may help you. >>>> >>> Thank you for your info. >>> I had bought the Fulham death certificate some while back but the >>> informant was his son A Aldridge so I ruled that one out. >>> The other in the St Georges Hanover Sq I had ruled out because I >>> thought that that district didn't cover the Chelsea Hospital. >>> However I shall get the certificate based on your info, >>> Thanks tick boo >> >>OOh before you order it, I don't know if that district 'does' cover the >>Chelsea Hospital, but deaths are registered in the district they occur >>so its still a 'possible'. It was the electoral roll entry that made me >>wonder. >><Boo, hoping David won't bill me if this isn't the correct cert ! :-) > >> >St George HS is IIRC much of London SW1 reaching at least as far south >as the area now lost under Victoria Tower Gardens at the south end of >the Palace of Westminster. It is a bit along the road from the Chelsea >Hospital but possibly could have included one or two of the local >"real" hospitals that a resident of the RH might have been taken to. >Thomas seems to be a "loose end" in around half a dozen or so family >trees in Ancestry; I might have a look later to see if his son stayed >in the area or moved away in case his dad went with him. > And a bit more :- There is what looks like the marriage of his son in 1923 :- DEC 1923 West Ham 4a 624 to Theresa G HAJEE Jesse seems to have died in 1946 :- MAR 1946 East Ham 4a 120 50y Theresa seems to have died in 1955 :- JUN 1955 East Ham 5a 9 55y The PRFD index entry gives her address as 53 Burges Road LONDON E6 and her death as 2 May 1955 at the East Ham Memorial Hospital. Unfortunately there was no will, administration being granted to Ronald Thomas William ALDRIDGE, overseas representative. There is no entry for Jesse. That doesn't directly locate Thomas but possibly knocks on the head the possibility that they all emigrated or moved away from the London/Essex area.

On 14/06/2013 05:01, Charles Ellson wrote: > And a bit more :- > There is what looks like the marriage of his son in 1923 :- > DEC 1923 West Ham 4a 624 to Theresa G HAJEE > > Jesse seems to have died in 1946 :- > MAR 1946 East Ham 4a 120 50y > > Theresa seems to have died in 1955 :- > JUN 1955 East Ham 5a 9 55y > > The PRFD index entry gives her address as 53 Burges Road LONDON E6 and > her death as 2 May 1955 at the East Ham Memorial Hospital. > Unfortunately there was no will, administration being granted to > Ronald Thomas William ALDRIDGE, overseas representative. In case it helps.. Findmy past has a RONALD THOMAS WILLIAM ALDRIDGE born in 1924 and went back and forth to Lagos Nigeria in 1958-60 ish eg RONALD THOMAS WILLIAM ALDRIDGE Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Collections from Australia & New Zealand, United Kingdom, Ireland, United States Country NIGERIA Year 1958 Ship Name KANO PALM Birth Year 1924 Destination LAGOS Ship Departure Port LONDON Destination Port LAGOS

On 19/06/2013 11:22, CWatters wrote: > On 14/06/2013 05:01, Charles Ellson wrote: > >> And a bit more :- >> There is what looks like the marriage of his son in 1923 :- >> DEC 1923 West Ham 4a 624 to Theresa G HAJEE >> >> Jesse seems to have died in 1946 :- >> MAR 1946 East Ham 4a 120 50y >> >> Theresa seems to have died in 1955 :- >> JUN 1955 East Ham 5a 9 55y >> >> The PRFD index entry gives her address as 53 Burges Road LONDON E6 and >> her death as 2 May 1955 at the East Ham Memorial Hospital. >> Unfortunately there was no will, administration being granted to >> Ronald Thomas William ALDRIDGE, overseas representative. > > In case it helps.. > > Findmy past has a RONALD THOMAS WILLIAM ALDRIDGE born in 1924 and went > back and forth to Lagos Nigeria in 1958-60 ish > > eg > > RONALD THOMAS WILLIAM ALDRIDGE Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 > Collections from Australia & New Zealand, United Kingdom, Ireland, > United States Country NIGERIA Year 1958 Ship Name KANO PALM Birth Year > 1924 Destination LAGOS Ship Departure Port LONDON Destination Port LAGOS > > FreeBMD suggests he is her son.. Births Mar 1925 Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page Aldridge Ronald T W Hajee Bromley 2a 878