On Sun, 19 May 2013 13:48:56 +0100, "Geoff Pearson" <gspearson1647@hotmail.com> wrote: > ><roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote in message >news:mailman.0.1368957764.3019.genbrit@rootsweb.com... >> From: "Geoff Pearson" <gspearson1647@hotmail.com> >> >>> Any one done a tree for our Nigel? The media say he has Huguenot >>> ancestors >>> but Ancestry also shows he has German gg grandparents from Frankfurt >>> named >>> Schrod - and they seem to be the origin of his stockbroking. They were >>> born >>> around 1840 and judging by the names we might expect they moved because >>> of >>> Jewish origins and problems there from. So a fairly cosmopolitan >>> ancestry - >>> out of line with his immigration policies. Of course I may have the >>> wrong >>> strand, in which case apologies to whomsoever feels they are due but this >>> looks like the right family. Perhaps his current German wife can check?> >> >> One of those internet bucket shop genealogy houses - no names, no pack >> drill, >> but you can probably guess which one I mean - claims the surname Farage >> has its >> origins in the Western Highlands of Scotland and derives from the old name >> MacFergus, meaning "son of Fergus". >> >> If true, this makes poor old Nigel's reception in Edinburgh at the hands >> of a >> bunch of Scottish fascist loons - as some of the media put it - a little >> ironic! >> >> However, I am sure most listers here know the disdain with which I regard >> these >> bucket shop genealogists and their so-called surname definitions. A >> somewhat >> weightier and more reliable source, the Oxford Dictionary of Surnames by >> Hanks >> and Hodges, doesn't actually mention Farage but gets pretty close with >> FARGE >> and FARGUE, which is says is a variant of FORGE, an English and French >> topgraphic name derived from someone who near a forge or smithy, which >> seems >> somewhat more possible to me. >> >> However, I am healthily sceptical about many surname definition sources >> since I >> suspect many are based simply on etymological connections that may or may >> not >> exist, and pure guesswork! >> >> I may take a look at him, Geoff, possibly even for my online Famous family >> trees blog, as he is becoming quite a well-known national character. >> >> -- >> Roy Stockdill >> Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer >> Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ >> >> "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, >> and that is not being talked about." >> OSCAR WILDE >> >> >> >> > >Mr Farage is said to have said there was an error in a marriage certificate >around 1890 and before that the name was Farridge - I don't see the evidence >for that. > Possibly an error that didn't actually change anything (e.g. father's surname mis-spelled or spelled his own way but still "Farage" on previous records) like my [g?]ggggf's marriage registration which manages one spelling error and two variations (Ellison, Ellson, Elson) of the surname (wrongly named as "Ellison", "the mark of nnn Elson", witness signed as "Ellson" or similar combination). >However, there is some evidence that his ill-informed visit to >this country has boosted the independence vote chances - at least 53% of >Scots don't want to to leave Europe, so if England does leave, Scotland >might not, which will confuse the Euro-lawyers. So Roy, enjoy your forage >for Farage or Farridge, you may show he is a Herr today and gone tomorrow >politician! Pity poor Mr Cameron to have to deal with all this and run the >country.

On 19/05/2013 17:34, Charles Ellson wrote: >> Mr Farage is said to have said there was an error in a marriage certificate >> >around 1890 and before that the name was Farridge - I don't see the evidence >> >for that. >> > > Possibly an error that didn't actually change anything (e.g. father's > surname mis-spelled or spelled his own way but still "Farage" on > previous records) like my [g?]ggggf's marriage registration which > manages one spelling error and two variations (Ellison, Ellson, Elson) > of the surname (wrongly named as "Ellison", "the mark of nnn Elson", > witness signed as "Ellson" or similar combination). Reminds me of the different pronunciations of "garage" -- Phil C.