On Fri, 24 May 2013 16:15:50 +0100, "Phil C." <philtrum@fsmail.net> wrote: >On 24/05/2013 11:20, Peter Goodey wrote: >> On Thu, 2013-05-23 at 19:36 +0100, Phil C. wrote: >>> I accidentally sent for the same death cert twice. >> >> Were they both from the same source (register office or GRO)? >> >> If one came from the register office and one from GRO, it's possible >> that amendments were made locally which didn't get reflected in the copy >> sent to GRO. >> >> The GRO index shows only the expected 10 entries for the relevant page > >They are both from GRO. I notice that the number in far left hand column >are different - 152 and 172. Same registrar for both. > It looks like a qualified informant managed to register the death before the coroner "claimed" the deceased and subsequently made his own registration. As they are ten places apart in the register this presumably puts them on different pages (but in the same position?) with different GRO references so either you have ordered them with the different references or the GRO has supplied one which doesn't actually match what you ordered (perhaps someone allowed the page to turn and failed to double-check they were copying what was ordered?) and accidentally managed to provide "before" and "after" registrations. Using FreeBMD, GRO page 256 only produces 9 hits so it looks like the earlier entry was (deliberately?) not indexed maybe with referring notes in the register. ISTR someone reporting another double death registration some time ago due to two qualified informants (a relative and the householder?) both reporting the death.

On 24/05/2013 23:02, Charles Ellson wrote: > On Fri, 24 May 2013 16:15:50 +0100, "Phil C." <philtrum@fsmail.net> > wrote: > >> On 24/05/2013 11:20, Peter Goodey wrote: >>> On Thu, 2013-05-23 at 19:36 +0100, Phil C. wrote: >>>> I accidentally sent for the same death cert twice. >>> >>> Were they both from the same source (register office or GRO)? >>> >>> If one came from the register office and one from GRO, it's possible >>> that amendments were made locally which didn't get reflected in the copy >>> sent to GRO. >>> >>> The GRO index shows only the expected 10 entries for the relevant page >> >> They are both from GRO. I notice that the number in far left hand column >> are different - 152 and 172. Same registrar for both. >> > It looks like a qualified informant managed to register the death > before the coroner "claimed" the deceased and subsequently made his > own registration. As they are ten places apart in the register this > presumably puts them on different pages (but in the same position?) > with different GRO references so either you have ordered them with the > different references or the GRO has supplied one which doesn't > actually match what you ordered (perhaps someone allowed the page to > turn and failed to double-check they were copying what was ordered?) > and accidentally managed to provide "before" and "after" > registrations. > > Using FreeBMD, GRO page 256 only produces 9 hits so it looks like the > earlier entry was (deliberately?) not indexed maybe with referring > notes in the register. ISTR someone reporting another double death > registration some time ago due to two qualified informants (a relative > and the householder?) both reporting the death. Looking at the certs, I was surprised to see that the first came three years ago. I can't even remember why I ordered it. Having both, though, has proved rather serendipitous. The earlier cert confirms the forename of Anna Maria husband. It also, at last, enabled me to find the old gal in the 1841 (I think), transcribed by Ancestry as "Ama Banna". -- Phil C.