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    1. Serendipity - or you never know where your next clue's coming from
    2. Ian Goddard
    3. Quite early on I came across Ebenezer, second son of Samuel Wimpenny of Hill, Upperthong, Almondbury parish WRY, bapt 29 Mar 1775, mother's name not given. The nearest marriage for a Samuel Wimpenny, in both time and place was to Lydia Newton in Dewsbury on 13 Sep 1772. This Lydia was described as being of Dewsbury in the marriage register. Dewsbury is 3 parishes away from Hill, 15 miles or more distant by road. Although there were a couple of sons of a William Newton were baptised in Dewsbury in 1753 & 1760 there is no recorded baptism of a Lydia Newton in that timeframe. There was a Lydia Newton, daughter of John, yeoman of Thongsbridge, Almondbury parish baptised at Honley chapel on 03 Apr 1749. Thongsbridge is quite close to Hill. Although she was a possible candidate as the bride there seemed no good reason, given the circumstances, to consider her more likely than some otherwise unrecorded Lydia born in Dewsbury. I left this line to one side - there were plenty of others to research. It remained untouched for many years. A few weeks ago the local history group published a book on schools in and around the village of New Mill in the adjacent (to Almondbury) parish of Kirkburton. This mentions that a John Newton was co-tennant (of the manor of Wakefield) and trustee of the site of a school founded in New Mill in 1694. This is also mentioned in Morehouse's history of Kirkburton & Holmfirth ( https://ia600201.us.archive.org/15/items/historyandtopog00moregoog/historyandtopog00moregoog.pdf ). However the new book goes on to say that the tenure remained in the Newton family until it passed to the husbands and descendants of the daughters, including Lydia, of John Newton of Thongsbridge who died in 1776. It then goes on to name Eli Wimpenny, Samuel's first son, as one of these descendants. This provided direct evidence to identify the Lydia of the 1772 marriage with the Lydia baptised in 1749. Given that evidence I was able to push back that line for several generations based on the Kirkburton PRs. Morehouse mentions that Lydia's father became bankrupt (about 1765 according to the London Gazette). This may explain why Lydia was living in Dewsbury at the time of her marriage. -- Ian The Hotmail address is my spam-bin. Real mail address is iang at austonley org uk

    05/12/2013 06:19:47
    1. Re: Serendipity - or you never know where your next clue's coming from
    2. melanie chesnel
    3. On Monday, May 13, 2013 1:19:47 AM UTC+2, Ian Goddard wrote: > Quite early on I came across Ebenezer, second son of Samuel Wimpenny of > > Hill, Upperthong, Almondbury parish WRY, bapt 29 Mar 1775, mother's name > > not given. > > > > The nearest marriage for a Samuel Wimpenny, in both time and place was > > to Lydia Newton in Dewsbury on 13 Sep 1772. This Lydia was described as > > being of Dewsbury in the marriage register. Dewsbury is 3 parishes away > > from Hill, 15 miles or more distant by road. Although there were a > > couple of sons of a William Newton were baptised in Dewsbury in 1753 & > > 1760 there is no recorded baptism of a Lydia Newton in that timeframe. > > There was a Lydia Newton, daughter of John, yeoman of Thongsbridge, > > Almondbury parish baptised at Honley chapel on 03 Apr 1749. > > Thongsbridge is quite close to Hill. Although she was a possible > > candidate as the bride there seemed no good reason, given the > > circumstances, to consider her more likely than some otherwise > > unrecorded Lydia born in Dewsbury. I left this line to one side - there > > were plenty of others to research. It remained untouched for many years. > > > > A few weeks ago the local history group published a book on schools in > > and around the village of New Mill in the adjacent (to Almondbury) > > parish of Kirkburton. This mentions that a John Newton was co-tennant > > (of the manor of Wakefield) and trustee of the site of a school founded > > in New Mill in 1694. This is also mentioned in Morehouse's history of > > Kirkburton & Holmfirth ( > > https://ia600201.us.archive.org/15/items/historyandtopog00moregoog/historyandtopog00moregoog.pdf > > ). > > > > However the new book goes on to say that the tenure remained in the > > Newton family until it passed to the husbands and descendants of the > > daughters, including Lydia, of John Newton of Thongsbridge who died in > > 1776. It then goes on to name Eli Wimpenny, Samuel's first son, as one > > of these descendants. This provided direct evidence to identify the > > Lydia of the 1772 marriage with the Lydia baptised in 1749. > > > > Given that evidence I was able to push back that line for several > > generations based on the Kirkburton PRs. Morehouse mentions that > > Lydia's father became bankrupt (about 1765 according to the London > > Gazette). This may explain why Lydia was living in Dewsbury at the time > > of her marriage. > > > > -- > > Ian > > > > The Hotmail address is my spam-bin. Real mail address is iang > > at austonley org uk It is really satisfying when the pieces come together isn't it! Especially when one can add flesh to the bones of the story rather than just have a list of dates. regards melanie

    05/12/2013 04:40:46