On 2013-07-08 10:57:01 +0000, Geoff Pearson said: > "Geoff Pearson" <gspearson1647@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:b3vdubFg2m9U1@mid.individual.net... >> >> "Tickettyboo" <tickettyboo@mail2oops.com> wrote in message >> news:b3u6i6F8d6uU1@mid.individual.net... >>> I am way out of my usual area here <I have a long line of Ag Labs and >>> Anchor Smiths and haven't ever needed to venture up the 'posh end'> >>> >>> Trying to help a friend who is researching the history of a previous >>> owner of a military sword, one John Duncan Bertie Fulton (1876-1915) >>> In amongst the masses of paperwork he has collected about this man's >>> career etc is confirmation from The Central Chancery if the Orders of >>> Knighthood saying that, in 1914, he was amongst those "To be Ordinary >>> Members of the Military Division of the Third Class, or Companions, of >>> the Most Honourable Order of the Bath". >>> >>> >> >> In the 1911 census he is shown as "single" aged 34. Might there be two >> John Fultons? > > Hope this is all of interest. I'm still puzzled as to when and why he > got the CB - today a very elevated award. > > ROYAL FLYING CORPS. > Military Wing, Major John D. B. Fulton, > C.B., Royal Artillery, Chief Inspector, > Aeronautical Inspection Department, is appointed > to the Reserve. Dated 17th December, > 1913 I have just skimmed though the 4 page obit published in The Aeroplane, Nov 1915 which seems to say he was one of the first aviators (flying licence no 27). and this part seems to say 'why' he was given the C.B. <quote> In May 1912 he was appointed to the newly formed Central Flying School as an Instructor and was put in charge of the workshops, where he did for the mechanical side of the R.F.C. much what Major Trenchard […] did for the personnel. <snip> In December 1913 he became Chief Inspector of Material R.F.C. and for his services was given a C.B. <snip> In 1914, the Aeronautical Inspection Department was formed and placed entirely under his control. </quote> -- Tickettyboo

Tickettyboo <tickettyboo@mail2oops.com> wrote: > On 2013-07-08 10:57:01 +0000, Geoff Pearson said: > >> "Geoff Pearson" <gspearson1647@hotmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:b3vdubFg2m9U1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> "Tickettyboo" <tickettyboo@mail2oops.com> wrote in message >> >>>>> news:b3u6i6F8d6uU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> I am way out of my usual area here <I have a long line of Ag Labs and >>>> >>> Anchor Smiths and haven't ever needed to venture up the 'posh end'> >>>>>>> Trying to help a friend who is researching the history of a >>>>>>> previous >>> owner of a military sword, one John Duncan Bertie Fulton (1876-1915) >>>> In amongst the masses of paperwork he has collected about this man's >>>> >>> career etc is confirmation from The Central Chancery if the Orders >>>>>>> of >>> Knighthood saying that, in 1914, he was amongst those "To be >>>>>>> Ordinary >>> Members of the Military Division of the Third Class, >>>>>>> or Companions, of >>> the Most Honourable Order of the Bath". >>>>>>>>>>> In the 1911 census he is shown as "single" aged 34. Might there >>>>>>>>>>> be two >> John Fultons? >>> Hope this is all of interest. I'm still puzzled as to when and why he >>> > got the CB - today a very elevated award. >>> ROYAL FLYING CORPS. >> Military Wing, Major John D. B. Fulton, >> C.B., Royal Artillery, Chief Inspector, >> Aeronautical Inspection Department, is appointed >> to the Reserve. Dated 17th December, >> 1913 > > I have just skimmed though the 4 page obit published in The Aeroplane, > Nov 1915 which seems to say he was one of the first aviators (flying > licence no 27). and this part seems to say 'why' he was given the C.B. > <quote> > In May 1912 he was appointed to the newly formed Central Flying School as > an Instructor and was put in charge of the workshops, where he did for > the mechanical side of the R.F.C. much what Major Trenchard […] did for the personnel. > <snip> > In December 1913 he became Chief Inspector of Material R.F.C. and for his > services was given a C.B. > <snip> > In 1914, the Aeronautical Inspection Department was formed and placed > entirely under his control. > </quote> > Extract from Jane's All The World's Aircraft 1913. <quote> In 1912 the Royal Flying Corps was instituted. It consists of two wings, navy and army, with a central flying school at Upavon, Salisbury Plain. The staff is as follows:— Commandant: Paine, Capt. G.M., M.V.O., R.N. Secretary: Lidderdale, Asst. Paymaster J.H., R.N. Medical Officer: Lithgow, Capt. E.G.R., R.A.M.C. Quarter-Master: Kirby, Hon. Lieut. (Qr.-Mr.), V.C. Instructor in Theory and Construction: Cook, Lieut.-Col. H. R., R.A. Instructor in Meteorology: Dobson, G., Esq. Instructors in Flying: Fulton, Capt. J. D. B., R.A. Gerrard, Capt. E. L., R.M. Shepherd, Lieut. P. A., R.N. Trenchard, Mt. Maj. H. M., D.S.O., R. Sc. Fus. Salmond, Capt. J. M., R. Lanc. R. Inspector of Engines: Randall, Eng.-Lieut. C. R. J., R.N. <end quote> <http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wakefield/history/34815-h/34815-h.htm> -- wtwjgc (Joe) <http://welcometowakefield.org.uk/>

"Tickettyboo" <tickettyboo@mail2oops.com> wrote in message news:b3vng6Fi3pfU1@mid.individual.net... > On 2013-07-08 10:57:01 +0000, Geoff Pearson said: > >> "Geoff Pearson" <gspearson1647@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:b3vdubFg2m9U1@mid.individual.net... >>> >>> "Tickettyboo" <tickettyboo@mail2oops.com> wrote in message >>> news:b3u6i6F8d6uU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> I am way out of my usual area here <I have a long line of Ag Labs and >>>> Anchor Smiths and haven't ever needed to venture up the 'posh end'> >>>> >>>> Trying to help a friend who is researching the history of a previous >>>> owner of a military sword, one John Duncan Bertie Fulton (1876-1915) >>>> In amongst the masses of paperwork he has collected about this man's >>>> career etc is confirmation from The Central Chancery if the Orders of >>>> Knighthood saying that, in 1914, he was amongst those "To be Ordinary >>>> Members of the Military Division of the Third Class, or Companions, of >>>> the Most Honourable Order of the Bath". >>>> >>>> >>> >>> In the 1911 census he is shown as "single" aged 34. Might there be two >>> John Fultons? >> >> Hope this is all of interest. I'm still puzzled as to when and why he >> got the CB - today a very elevated award. >> >> ROYAL FLYING CORPS. >> Military Wing, Major John D. B. Fulton, >> C.B., Royal Artillery, Chief Inspector, >> Aeronautical Inspection Department, is appointed >> to the Reserve. Dated 17th December, >> 1913 > > I have just skimmed though the 4 page obit published in The Aeroplane, Nov > 1915 which seems to say he was one of the first aviators (flying licence > no 27). and this part seems to say 'why' he was given the C.B. > <quote> > In May 1912 he was appointed to the newly formed Central Flying School as > an Instructor and was put in charge of the workshops, where he did for the > mechanical side of the R.F.C. much what Major Trenchard […] did for the > personnel. > <snip> > In December 1913 he became Chief Inspector of Material R.F.C. and for his > services was given a C.B. > <snip> > In 1914, the Aeronautical Inspection Department was formed and placed > entirely under his control. > </quote> > > > -- > Tickettyboo > I suspect the CB was for the Relief of Mafeking in 1902 when he was in the Army. The Honours lists were not published until about 1917 so finding where these awards were publicised is quite difficult. You could try the Cabinet Office for sight of the citation - there is a 100 year restriction on release. And poor Lady Fulton is said to have haunted the building she paid for - the difficulty there is that Lady is not a title that goes with any specific level - all aristocratic women get called Lady until they get to Duchess - calling a Duchess, Lady is quite wrong.