"Charles Ellson" <ce11son@yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:65hbu8pgkdb25fhgb4jh1sr3sfdkjdgc4a@4ax.com... > On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:24:37 +1000, "Kiwi in Aus" <Wwftw_98@Yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> >>"Anne Chambers" <anne@privacy.net> wrote in message >>news:b4kkftF31scU1@mid.individual.net... >>> Anne Chambers wrote: >>>> Kiwi in Aus wrote: >>>>> Born abt 1877 in Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England >>>>> married abt Sep 1908 Mutford, Suffolk, England >>>>> Died 23 Jan 1952 Surrey South-Eastern, Surrey, England >>>>> I can't find a birth for him on Ancestry or Free BMDs only census I >>>>> can >>>>> find him on is 1911 after he was >>>>> married, I am after a birth and any census where he is with his >>>>> parents >>>>> Cheers Jenny >>>>> I DON'T do Mornings!!!!! >>>>> Photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/jen_in_brisbane/ >>>>> Family Tree http://minerstree.tribalpages.com/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> The 1911 census shows him living with his parents >>>> George Frederick Bugg 59 >>>> Martha Milton Bugg 58 >>>> Percival Ernest Leighton 34 >>>> Beatrice Alice Leighton 31 >>>> Mary Ann Cocksedge 21 >>>> >>>> Births Mar 1876 >>>> Bugg Percival Ernest Bury St.E. 4a 565 >>>> >>>> Marriages Sep 1906 >>>> HARVEY Beatrice Alice Mutford 4a 2167 >>>> LEIGHTON Percival Ernest Mutford 4a 2167 >>>> >>>> Marriages Jun 1874 >>>> Bugg George Frederick Bury St. E. 4a 731 >>>> Jackaman Martha Milton Bury St. E. 4a 731 >>>> >>>> No idea why he changed his name - perhaps he found out that George Bugg >>>> was not his father ? >>>> >>> 1881 census >>> Class: RG11; Piece: 1842; Folio: 108; Page: 3; >>> George F. Bugg 29 >>> Martha M. Bugg 28 >>> Frederick J. Bugg 6 >>> Percival E. Bugg 5 >>> Arthur R. Bugg 2 >>> Herbert L. Bugg Emma Stocking 18 >>> >>> 1891 (according to Ancestry !) >>> Class: RG12; Piece: 1450; Folio: 154 >>> George T Rugg 39 >>> Martha M Rugg 39 >>> Percival E Rugg 15 >>> Arthur R Rugg 12 >>> Cecil W Rugg 8 >>> Martha S Heckaman 66 >>> Priscilla Suell 13 >>> >>> 1901 >>> Class: RG13; Piece: 1755; Folio: 110 >>> Geo F Bugg 49 >>> Martha M Bugg 48 >>> Percival E Bugg 25 >>> Cecil W Bugg 18 >>> Martha Wilden 32 >>> >>> so something happened between 1901 and 1906 to make him change his >>> surname. There's nothing in the london Gazette to say it was an >>> official >>> name change... >> > A DIY change of name is no less "official" than publishing a notice in > the Gazettes; it is quite possible an appropriate notice could have > been placed in a local newspaper. > >>>perhaps Beatrice did not think Bugg was 'posh' enough. Who >>> could blame her ! >>Thanks Ann yep I would hate to be Mrs Bugg, maybe he was dodging being >>called up for arms who knows, I will just make a note that he changed his >>name and leave it at that his wife is a 3rd cousin twice removed so only >>just makes the tree anyway, although I notice an eight cousin has snuck >>in, >>I usually stop at sixth cousins >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Anne Chambers >>> South Australia >>> >>> anne dot chambers at bigpond dot com >> >> In Scotland there is no such thing as an official name change - you just do it.

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 05:01:49 +0100, "Geoff Pearson" <gspearson1647@hotmail.com> wrote: > >"Charles Ellson" <ce11son@yahoo.ca> wrote in message >news:65hbu8pgkdb25fhgb4jh1sr3sfdkjdgc4a@4ax.com... >> On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:24:37 +1000, "Kiwi in Aus" <Wwftw_98@Yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Anne Chambers" <anne@privacy.net> wrote in message >>>news:b4kkftF31scU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> Anne Chambers wrote: >>>>> Kiwi in Aus wrote: >>>>>> Born abt 1877 in Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England >>>>>> married abt Sep 1908 Mutford, Suffolk, England >>>>>> Died 23 Jan 1952 Surrey South-Eastern, Surrey, England >>>>>> I can't find a birth for him on Ancestry or Free BMDs only census I >>>>>> can >>>>>> find him on is 1911 after he was >>>>>> married, I am after a birth and any census where he is with his >>>>>> parents >>>>>> Cheers Jenny >>>>>> I DON'T do Mornings!!!!! >>>>>> Photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/jen_in_brisbane/ >>>>>> Family Tree http://minerstree.tribalpages.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> The 1911 census shows him living with his parents >>>>> George Frederick Bugg 59 >>>>> Martha Milton Bugg 58 >>>>> Percival Ernest Leighton 34 >>>>> Beatrice Alice Leighton 31 >>>>> Mary Ann Cocksedge 21 >>>>> >>>>> Births Mar 1876 >>>>> Bugg Percival Ernest Bury St.E. 4a 565 >>>>> >>>>> Marriages Sep 1906 >>>>> HARVEY Beatrice Alice Mutford 4a 2167 >>>>> LEIGHTON Percival Ernest Mutford 4a 2167 >>>>> >>>>> Marriages Jun 1874 >>>>> Bugg George Frederick Bury St. E. 4a 731 >>>>> Jackaman Martha Milton Bury St. E. 4a 731 >>>>> >>>>> No idea why he changed his name - perhaps he found out that George Bugg >>>>> was not his father ? >>>>> >>>> 1881 census >>>> Class: RG11; Piece: 1842; Folio: 108; Page: 3; >>>> George F. Bugg 29 >>>> Martha M. Bugg 28 >>>> Frederick J. Bugg 6 >>>> Percival E. Bugg 5 >>>> Arthur R. Bugg 2 >>>> Herbert L. Bugg Emma Stocking 18 >>>> >>>> 1891 (according to Ancestry !) >>>> Class: RG12; Piece: 1450; Folio: 154 >>>> George T Rugg 39 >>>> Martha M Rugg 39 >>>> Percival E Rugg 15 >>>> Arthur R Rugg 12 >>>> Cecil W Rugg 8 >>>> Martha S Heckaman 66 >>>> Priscilla Suell 13 >>>> >>>> 1901 >>>> Class: RG13; Piece: 1755; Folio: 110 >>>> Geo F Bugg 49 >>>> Martha M Bugg 48 >>>> Percival E Bugg 25 >>>> Cecil W Bugg 18 >>>> Martha Wilden 32 >>>> >>>> so something happened between 1901 and 1906 to make him change his >>>> surname. There's nothing in the london Gazette to say it was an >>>> official >>>> name change... >>> >> A DIY change of name is no less "official" than publishing a notice in >> the Gazettes; it is quite possible an appropriate notice could have >> been placed in a local newspaper. >> >>>>perhaps Beatrice did not think Bugg was 'posh' enough. Who >>>> could blame her ! >>>Thanks Ann yep I would hate to be Mrs Bugg, maybe he was dodging being >>>called up for arms who knows, I will just make a note that he changed his >>>name and leave it at that his wife is a 3rd cousin twice removed so only >>>just makes the tree anyway, although I notice an eight cousin has snuck >>>in, >>>I usually stop at sixth cousins >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Anne Chambers >>>> South Australia >>>> >>>> anne dot chambers at bigpond dot com >>> >>> > >In Scotland there is no such thing as an official name change - you just do >it. > There is (as in England and Wales) in the sense that there are methods of recording such a change in government records or publications but it is still not generally compulsory to do so :- http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/regscot/change-of-name.html This amends a person's original birth record but does not remove the original name(s) from it. In England and Wales and in Northern Ireland there is no general equivalent procedure for adults with name changes on birth records usually involving corrections, young children (e.g. name changed in baptism) or re-registration of a birth consequent to parents marrying.