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    1. Re: Forenames and birth certificate.
    2. Charles Ellson
    3. On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 00:55:36 +0100, Renia <renia@otenet.gr> wrote: >On 24/08/2013 23:48, Charles Ellson wrote: >> On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 23:26:27 +0100, Renia <renia@otenet.gr> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 24/08/2013 17:03, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: >>> >>>> Can you give us _any_ more details (names, places)? Either by posting or >>>> email if you don't want to make them public? (I have some security >>>> clearance - though you only have my word for that, but I can give you >>>> [privately] my works address which would go some way to showing you. >>>> Though other than search the BMD records [which anyone here could do] - >>>> and Medway area parish ones, which are the only ones I know my way >>>> around, if that's where he was baptised - I'm not sure I could help much.) >>> >>> >>> Why on earth do you want more details about a personal matter? >>> >>> What the man needs to do, is change his name by deed poll, >>> >> I doubt if he needs to and it might interfere with the continuity >> required to verify the connection between his birth identity and his >> current identity. A deed poll involves more than just a name change, >> part of the process is the permanent renunciation of your name as used >> prior to the change which appears to be incompatible with what is >> required. > >Well, it's a renunciation of the name which appears on his birth >certificate, > No, it is a non-reversible and inappropriate process :- "I absolutely and entirely renounce relinquish and abandon the use of my old name and assume adopt and determine to take and use from the date of this Deed my new name in substitution for my old name. I shall at all times from this date in all records documents and other writings and in all actions and proceedings as well as in all dealings and transactions and on all occasions use my new name in substitution for my old name." [Ministry of Justice form LOC020 - CHANGE OF NAME DEED intended for enrolling in the Central Office of the Senior Courts of England and Wales] The current name ("my old name") is the wanted one and merely requires appropriate documentation that the person bearing it is the same as the person described by a name in the birth registration which is not an exact match and is probably a far from rare matter. A statutary declaration does that job for most purposes including the issue of a passport. >and that's what he needs to do. Or else prove he is the >same person as the person to whom that birth certificate belongs.

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