On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 13:25:20 +0100, Tickettyboo <tickettyboo@mail2oops.com> wrote: >On 2013-08-30 12:04:41 +0000, Tickettyboo said: > >> On 2013-08-30 10:54:00 +0000, Jerry said: >> >>> I wonder if anyone can help with the dates of service for this soldier? >>> >>> Joseph Pownall >>> >>> Loyal North Lancashire Regiment 12835 private >>> North Staffordshire Regiment 57160 lance corporal >>> >>> Every time I try to look up the information I am asked for my credit >>> card details so I would appreciate any help. >>> >>> Regards, Jerry >> >> There is at least one service record (badly damaged) for that name >> which doesn't show a service number. It has mother's name as Hannah. >> brothers Thomas and William, sisters Margaret & Mary Jane of 12 Wignall >> Street, Preston. >> >> If that sounds likely I'll have a further look for dates etc > >Hmm not too sure if that page belongs to the same man, sometimes the >badly damaged records are a bit jumbled, but I found the attestation >page and that says Thomas Pownallm born Preston, a foundry labourer, >aged 19 years and 11 months enlisted in the Loyal N Lancs 26 Nov 1892. > Also note that despite appearing in the Medal Rolls some soldiers (like my grandfather) don't appear in the available online records as they were discharged after the end date of those records.

Looks like this will remain a mystery but thanks to all who helped.

On 31/08/2013 12:25, Jerry wrote: > Looks like this will remain a mystery but thanks to all who helped. > Google found some discussions about this person from 2007 but perhaps its known to you already.. http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=265395.0 http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=101886 Extract Hi, can anyone help with information regarding the Preston Pals, my grandfather Joseph Pownall (12835) enlisted in the 7th Battalion Loyal North Lancashire Regiment Aug?Sept 1914, he arrived in France 17/7/1915, know he was wounded at some point as he spent time at Summerdown Camp, nr Eastbourne, whilst there he met his future wife(my grandmother) they got married in December 1917, on the marriage certificate his residence is given as serving in France. So I'm uncertain as to whether he was wounded, went back to France then came back to marry my grandmother, or did he marry her at the end of his convalescence, (family didn't know) if it was the latter would it say serving in France. When he was discharged to class Z on 4th April 1919 he was a L/cpl in the 13th Garrison Battalion North Staffordshire Regiment(57160). I have no idea of his wounds, I knew him when I was younger and nothing was visible, I have a vague memory that my father mentioned shrapnel, but none of the surviving family members can recall anything. Any ideas or information that could help me move my research forward would be much appreciated.

On 01/09/2013 19:44, CWatters wrote: > On 31/08/2013 12:25, Jerry wrote: >> Looks like this will remain a mystery but thanks to all who helped. >> > > Google found some discussions about this person from 2007 but perhaps > its known to you already.. > > http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=265395.0 > > http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=101886 > > Extract > > Hi, can anyone help with information regarding the Preston Pals, my > grandfather Joseph Pownall (12835) enlisted in the 7th Battalion Loyal > North Lancashire Regiment Aug?Sept 1914, he arrived in France 17/7/1915, > know he was wounded at some point as he spent time at Summerdown Camp, > nr Eastbourne, whilst there he met his future wife(my grandmother) they > got married in December 1917, on the marriage certificate his residence > is given as serving in France. So I'm uncertain as to whether he was > wounded, went back to France then came back to marry my grandmother, or > did he marry her at the end of his convalescence, (family didn't know) > if it was the latter would it say serving in France. When he was > discharged to class Z on 4th April 1919 he was a L/cpl in the 13th > Garrison Battalion North Staffordshire Regiment(57160). I have no idea > of his wounds, I knew him when I was younger and nothing was visible, I > have a vague memory that my father mentioned shrapnel, but none of the > surviving family members can recall anything. Any ideas or information > that could help me move my research forward would be much appreciated. More googling.. http://faq.wo1.be/QuestionDetail.aspx?genericid=41 "My grandfather was Joseph Pownall 12385 of the 7th Battalion Loyal North Lancashire Regiment. Great War Research speculate that he may have been wounded at Messines, Hollebeke or Ypres in 1917. http://www.1914-1918.net/nstaffs.htm "This page is dedicated to the memory of men like <snip> and Joseph Pownall, originally of the Loyal North Lancashire Regiment and posted to 13th (Garrison) Battalion. All of these men were researched in detail by Chris Baker at http://www.fourteeneighteen.co.uk/" http://www.1914-1918.net/loyals.htm "The Loyal North Lancashire Regiment Battalions of the New Armies 7th (Service) Battalion Formed at Preston in September 1914 as part of K2 and came under command of 56th Brigade in 19th (Western) Division. Moved to Whitchurch in December 1914. 17 July 1915 : landed at Boulogne. 10 February 1918 : disbanded in France."

Thank you. I have seen most of these links and was trying to find when he was at Summerdown Camp. But like his grandson I have drawn a blank. Thanks though for everyone's help. On 01/09/2013 20:18, CWatters wrote: > On 01/09/2013 19:44, CWatters wrote: >> On 31/08/2013 12:25, Jerry wrote: >>> Looks like this will remain a mystery but thanks to all who helped. >>> >> >> Google found some discussions about this person from 2007 but perhaps >> its known to you already.. >> >> http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=265395.0 >> >> http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=101886 >> >> Extract >> >> Hi, can anyone help with information regarding the Preston Pals, my >> grandfather Joseph Pownall (12835) enlisted in the 7th Battalion Loyal >> North Lancashire Regiment Aug?Sept 1914, he arrived in France 17/7/1915, >> know he was wounded at some point as he spent time at Summerdown Camp, >> nr Eastbourne, whilst there he met his future wife(my grandmother) they >> got married in December 1917, on the marriage certificate his residence >> is given as serving in France. So I'm uncertain as to whether he was >> wounded, went back to France then came back to marry my grandmother, or >> did he marry her at the end of his convalescence, (family didn't know) >> if it was the latter would it say serving in France. When he was >> discharged to class Z on 4th April 1919 he was a L/cpl in the 13th >> Garrison Battalion North Staffordshire Regiment(57160). I have no idea >> of his wounds, I knew him when I was younger and nothing was visible, I >> have a vague memory that my father mentioned shrapnel, but none of the >> surviving family members can recall anything. Any ideas or information >> that could help me move my research forward would be much appreciated. > > More googling.. > > http://faq.wo1.be/QuestionDetail.aspx?genericid=41 > > "My grandfather was Joseph Pownall 12385 of the 7th Battalion Loyal > North Lancashire Regiment. Great War Research speculate that he may have > been wounded at Messines, Hollebeke or Ypres in 1917. > > http://www.1914-1918.net/nstaffs.htm > > "This page is dedicated to the memory of men like <snip> and Joseph > Pownall, originally of the Loyal North Lancashire Regiment and posted to > 13th (Garrison) Battalion. All of these men were researched in detail by > Chris Baker at http://www.fourteeneighteen.co.uk/" > > > http://www.1914-1918.net/loyals.htm > > "The Loyal North Lancashire Regiment > Battalions of the New Armies > 7th (Service) Battalion > Formed at Preston in September 1914 as part of K2 and came under > command of 56th Brigade in 19th (Western) Division. Moved to Whitchurch > in December 1914. > 17 July 1915 : landed at Boulogne. > 10 February 1918 : disbanded in France." > > > >