In message <03b7bc30-ad69-46cc-bbc7-7230fcb4c8af@googlegroups.com>, jburney@talktalk.net writes: >Hello - I am researching Violet Josephine Hambleton (nee Delcourt. Her >father and mother were Pierre Delcourt and Catherine Grisenthwaite. > >From their marraige certificate (1916) Catherine was 31 therefore born >c1885 and Pierre was 41 born c1875. Catherine father is listed as >Henry Grisenthwaite (deceased) and listed as a farmer. > >The only other record I can find is the death of a Catherine Delcourt >in Wales and again her birth is c 1885. Free BMD only shows two >Catherines, one born 1881 and the other 1889. > >I can't find them on the census documents. Is any of this linked to [] *1911*: Grisenthwaites born 1885 ±5 gives 25; they include Catherine daughter 22 occupation servant born Liverpool; head is John, 52, Dock labourer, and Kate, servant, 23, no occupation born Maghull, Lancashire; head is away from home. *1901* same search give 24; they include Catherine, 12, born L'Pool, daughter of John, 41, Grain Sorter, and Cath, servant, 13, born Maghull, domestic servant (head was George F F Bennert). The only Cat* born in Maghull 1888 ± 1 shown in the *1891* census is a Catherine Moorcroft. Her father is Henry! A gardener aged 31. I thought maybe death and adoption? But the only Henry Moorcroft who died 1896±5 born 1860±5 died in Burton upon Trent, which is about 90 miles from Maghull. Don't know if this has helped you or not! -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "We'd agreed to overlook each others' families and everything, and get married" (The Trouble with Harry)