On 8/17/2013 4:13 AM, Mick wrote: > Hi all, > I have come across a article in our local Isle of Wight weekly paper > the "County Press" > This is a excellent paper with Birth and death reports each week which > I carefully go through and scan in parts. > In 1929 my mother was pictured with my eldest sister on her lap, with > her four G Grandmothers included in separate photos with them. > I thought I might be able to match unknown photos to the G > Grandmothers but found no photos that matched, so the article contains > the only pictures of them. Can you see a copy of the actual newspaper page? If so take your digital camera, and photograph the page instead of scanning it. I have found that color scans and photos do a better job than when copying in black and white. If you do not have a tripod or they are not allowed, get as high above the page as possible, adjust the camera neck strap so that you can bring the camera down to the point where the strap is tight and you can get the text you want in the picture frame. Brace yourself and take the picture. I have found you can get readable copies in photographs of 640X480 pixels, obviously the higher the pixel rating the better the copy.

On 17/08/2013 13:36, Keith Nuttle wrote: > On 8/17/2013 4:13 AM, Mick wrote: >> Hi all, >> I have come across a article in our local Isle of Wight weekly paper >> the "County Press" >> This is a excellent paper with Birth and death reports each week which >> I carefully go through and scan in parts. >> In 1929 my mother was pictured with my eldest sister on her lap, with >> her four G Grandmothers included in separate photos with them. >> I thought I might be able to match unknown photos to the G >> Grandmothers but found no photos that matched, so the article contains >> the only pictures of them. > > Can you see a copy of the actual newspaper page? > > If so take your digital camera, and photograph the page instead of > scanning it. > > I have found that color scans and photos do a better job than when > copying in black and white. > > If you do not have a tripod or they are not allowed, get as high above > the page as possible, adjust the camera neck strap so that you can bring > the camera down to the point where the strap is tight and you can get > the text you want in the picture frame. Brace yourself and take the > picture. > > I have found you can get readable copies in photographs of 640X480 > pixels, obviously the higher the pixel rating the better the copy. > > If the ISO is adjustable try setting it higher to give a faster shutter speed, this will reduce any camera shake. Take several shots at different settings. -- Graeme Wall This account not read, substitute trains for rail. Railway Miscellany at <http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail>

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 14:10:24 +0100, Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: >On 17/08/2013 13:36, Keith Nuttle wrote: >> On 8/17/2013 4:13 AM, Mick wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> I have come across a article in our local Isle of Wight weekly paper >>> the "County Press" >>> This is a excellent paper with Birth and death reports each week which >>> I carefully go through and scan in parts. >>> In 1929 my mother was pictured with my eldest sister on her lap, with >>> her four G Grandmothers included in separate photos with them. >>> I thought I might be able to match unknown photos to the G >>> Grandmothers but found no photos that matched, so the article contains >>> the only pictures of them. >> >> Can you see a copy of the actual newspaper page? >> >> If so take your digital camera, and photograph the page instead of >> scanning it. >> >> I have found that color scans and photos do a better job than when >> copying in black and white. >> >> If you do not have a tripod or they are not allowed, get as high above >> the page as possible, adjust the camera neck strap so that you can bring >> the camera down to the point where the strap is tight and you can get >> the text you want in the picture frame. Brace yourself and take the >> picture. >> >> I have found you can get readable copies in photographs of 640X480 >> pixels, obviously the higher the pixel rating the better the copy. >> >> > >If the ISO is adjustable try setting it higher to give a faster shutter >speed, this will reduce any camera shake. Take several shots at >different settings. > If you're likely to make a habit of photographing things that require a steady hand then investing in a monopod might help. IME they're often allowed where a tripod isn't and when used unextended you can just prop it on your seat; in that "short" mode they also add a bit more inertia when left hanging off a camera being used at low speed if the camera doesn't have its own steadying function.

On 17-08-2013 17:24, Charles Ellson wrote: > On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 14:10:24 +0100, Graeme Wall > <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >> On 17/08/2013 13:36, Keith Nuttle wrote: >>> On 8/17/2013 4:13 AM, Mick wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> I have come across a article in our local Isle of Wight weekly paper >>>> the "County Press" >>>> This is a excellent paper with Birth and death reports each week which >>>> I carefully go through and scan in parts. >>>> In 1929 my mother was pictured with my eldest sister on her lap, with >>>> her four G Grandmothers included in separate photos with them. >>>> I thought I might be able to match unknown photos to the G >>>> Grandmothers but found no photos that matched, so the article contains >>>> the only pictures of them. >>> >>> Can you see a copy of the actual newspaper page? >>> >>> If so take your digital camera, and photograph the page instead of >>> scanning it. >>> >>> I have found that color scans and photos do a better job than when >>> copying in black and white. >>> >>> If you do not have a tripod or they are not allowed, get as high above >>> the page as possible, adjust the camera neck strap so that you can bring >>> the camera down to the point where the strap is tight and you can get >>> the text you want in the picture frame. Brace yourself and take the >>> picture. >>> >>> I have found you can get readable copies in photographs of 640X480 >>> pixels, obviously the higher the pixel rating the better the copy. >>> >>> >> >> If the ISO is adjustable try setting it higher to give a faster shutter >> speed, this will reduce any camera shake. Take several shots at >> different settings. >> > If you're likely to make a habit of photographing things that require > a steady hand then investing in a monopod might help. IME they're > often allowed where a tripod isn't and when used unextended you can > just prop it on your seat; in that "short" mode they also add a bit > more inertia when left hanging off a camera being used at low speed if > the camera doesn't have its own steadying function. I mostly do it out of hand as most (Dutch) archives won't allow tripods and do not like monopods either. Fixed setting at ISO 400, no flash on a very simple 5MP camera gives me mostly very well readable and sharp pictures. Only wintertime later in the afternoon light might get so low that it becomes more difficult. Richard -- Richard van Schaik f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@THISgmail.com http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/ The world is one big madhouse and this is main office.

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 08:36:25 -0400, Keith Nuttle <Keith_Nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >On 8/17/2013 4:13 AM, Mick wrote: >> Hi all, >> I have come across a article in our local Isle of Wight weekly paper >> the "County Press" >> This is a excellent paper with Birth and death reports each week which >> I carefully go through and scan in parts. >> In 1929 my mother was pictured with my eldest sister on her lap, with >> her four G Grandmothers included in separate photos with them. >> I thought I might be able to match unknown photos to the G >> Grandmothers but found no photos that matched, so the article contains >> the only pictures of them. > >Can you see a copy of the actual newspaper page? Hi, no it can only be viewed on their viewer machine like a microfiche viewer, the screen image is not good, I can see if they will let me take a photo of it. There was somebody years ago that had back issues of the paper from when they had a clear out, but nothing shows up in any search. What I do not understand is, they do print from these films to papers in a "looking back" section but the assistant knew nothing about how they did it. I will try writing to the Editor, there is nothing to loose! Mick.IOW. >

On 8/17/2013 12:02 PM, Mick wrote: > On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 08:36:25 -0400, Keith Nuttle > <Keith_Nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> On 8/17/2013 4:13 AM, Mick wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> I have come across a article in our local Isle of Wight weekly paper >>> the "County Press" >>> This is a excellent paper with Birth and death reports each week which >>> I carefully go through and scan in parts. >>> In 1929 my mother was pictured with my eldest sister on her lap, with >>> her four G Grandmothers included in separate photos with them. >>> I thought I might be able to match unknown photos to the G >>> Grandmothers but found no photos that matched, so the article contains >>> the only pictures of them. >> >> Can you see a copy of the actual newspaper page? > > Hi, no it can only be viewed on their viewer machine like a > microfiche viewer, the screen image is not good, I can see if they > will let me take a photo of it. > > There was somebody years ago that had back issues of the paper from > when they had a clear out, but nothing shows up in any search. > > What I do not understand is, they do print from these films to papers > in a "looking back" section but the assistant knew nothing about how > they did it. > > I will try writing to the Editor, there is nothing to loose! > Mick.IOW. >> There is never any thing to loose in asking a question, especially now with e-mail at one time you could loose the price of a stamp ;-) Some time when they respond I have been surprised with the information I was looking for, with additional information that I was not.

On 17-08-2013 18:02, Mick wrote: > On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 08:36:25 -0400, Keith Nuttle > <Keith_Nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> On 8/17/2013 4:13 AM, Mick wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> I have come across a article in our local Isle of Wight weekly paper >>> the "County Press" >>> This is a excellent paper with Birth and death reports each week which >>> I carefully go through and scan in parts. >>> In 1929 my mother was pictured with my eldest sister on her lap, with >>> her four G Grandmothers included in separate photos with them. >>> I thought I might be able to match unknown photos to the G >>> Grandmothers but found no photos that matched, so the article contains >>> the only pictures of them. >> >> Can you see a copy of the actual newspaper page? > > Hi, no it can only be viewed on their viewer machine like a > microfiche viewer, the screen image is not good, I can see if they > will let me take a photo of it. > > There was somebody years ago that had back issues of the paper from > when they had a clear out, but nothing shows up in any search. > > What I do not understand is, they do print from these films to papers > in a "looking back" section but the assistant knew nothing about how > they did it. > > I will try writing to the Editor, there is nothing to loose! > Mick.IOW. From a fiche viewer: http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/scans/IMG_5561.jpg as raw image http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/scans/IMG_5561b.jpg repaired for light spot. Could possibly done even some better by an expert on this (which I'm not). Is not a newspaper but similar type of image (do not look at language, just at how far zooming will go in getting readable text). Camera and settings as described previously. Richard -- Richard van Schaik f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@THISgmail.com http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/ The world is one big madhouse and this is main office.