In message <[email protected]>, Graeme Wall <[email protected]> writes: >On 12/01/2015 17:59, Richard Smith wrote: [] >> Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you. Are you saying that you don't think >> Churchyates means Church Street because of the spelling? If so, I >> disagree. I grew up in a small village in the Yorkshire Moors -- >> admittedly some distance northeast of Almondbury -- and the older >> generation of locals sometimes used the word "gate" for a street. It >> was always pronounced "yat", rhyming with "cat", but with a "y" sound >> of "yes". The village of Chop Gate was the same: traditionally >> pronounced something like chupyat. >> > >Derived from the Viking word for a street. > > Yes, certainly evident in the name of many streets in many northern towns (e. g. Newcastle has several); it does _not_ relate to the modern meaning of gate as a doorway/entrance, but the whole length is called x-gate. (I'm not sure about "Newgate Street" - that may after all be after a new gate, but could also just be a bit of tautology. Especially as I've often heard it referred to without the "Street" part.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Try to learn something about everything and everything about something. -Thomas Henry Huxley, biologist (1825-1895)