On 2015-11-02 17:21:00 +0000, johnfhhgen via said: > On 02/11/2015 2:44 PM, Roger Mills via wrote: >> On 02/11/2015 04:54, Bob Campbell via wrote: >>> Do the transcripts for this survey indicate a year of death? >>> I do have an Alice Pike who has her birth year missing on the >>> transcript, but I already know this to be 1895 and have her listed with >>> Adelaide Wiltshire on the electoral roll for the same year, from a >>> search going back many years. >>> However I have over recent years failed to find Alice's death >>> registration. As these records were taken over by the NHS would these >>> also indicate a year of death? >>> cheers >>> Bob >> I wouldn't have thought so. ICBW but my impression is that you'll get >> the register entry as it was in 1939 for the people living at the time. >> If she died prior to that, she wouldn't be on it. If she died after >> that, her date of death wouldn't be known in 1939 unless the person >> compiling the record was clairvoyant. > Roger, > AFAIK there is evidence that the original register as scanned has been > updated. For example, my mother has had her married (1947) name added > and maiden name reduced to within brackets () in the index. Nor has she > been redacted (b.1917) so presumably her death (1977) noted. > Cannot remember when the cut-off date is, but someone here will know - > it may be in the FAQ on the site. One would have expected deaths to > have been entered, at least until the end of rationing and of National > Identity cards. > > That said, where the date or fact of death *has* been entered in the > register, one would expect the entry line to no longer be redacted, and > my mother's case would seem to confirm this. > > Regards, > John Henley I have been wondering about 'how' it was / is checked to see if the person has since died and info can be released. Maybe its something as simple as checking the GRO deaths index? In which case deaths prior to Q2 1969 (especially if it was a fairly common name) may not be so easily released as the index only gave an age at death. After Q2 1969 the index contained d.o.b. info so that may have influenced releasing records. ? I've sent off a death cert to FMP to request the release of a redacted record, but we all know the scenario where names were common and birth/death indexes can produce 2 or 3 in roughly the right year and quarter. -- Tickettyboo

> > I have been wondering about 'how' it was / is checked to see if the > person has since died and info can be released. > Maybe its something as simple as checking the GRO deaths index? In > which case deaths prior to Q2 1969 (especially if it was a fairly > common name) may not be so easily released as the index only gave an > age at death. After Q2 1969 the index contained d.o.b. info so that > may have influenced releasing records. ? > I've sent off a death cert to FMP to request the release of a redacted > record, but we all know the scenario where names were common and > birth/death indexes can produce 2 or 3 in roughly the right year and > quarter. > -- It is comparatively east to find a male with an uncommon name who has stuck to his original registered name. But a man with a common name, a man who has died abroad or one who has added, subtracted or inverted names, or even one where wrong age at death information is given, may not be easy. And a woman who has lost her original name by marriage, married twice, altered her forename/s, altered her age/ married or died abroad, must be very difficult indeed to follow. And I have no confidence in FMP's ability even to do the simpler tasks involved. EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society