On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 14:09:33 +0000, nick ashby via <genbrit@rootsweb.com> wrote: >Hi I am correct,that a person can be buried anywhere in the UK,in a >cemetery different to the place of death. > They can be buried, cremated or exported anywhere but are you actually thinking of the general right to be buried in the local parish cemetery (if there is one) in England ? referred to in :- http://www.funeralinspirations.co.uk/information/Traditional-Burial.html A body cannot be removed from England and Wales without permission of the Coroner but that is generally a matter of getting the right form, informally called an "out of England" form/certificate (Form 104 Removal Notice). Cremated remains are not a "body" and there are for most practical purposes no special restrictions on their disposal.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 22:34:09 +0000, Charles Ellson wrote: > Path: buffer1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!ecngs!testfeeder.ecngs.de!81.171.118.63.MISMATCH!peer03.fr7!news.highwinds-media.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail > From: Charles Ellson <ce11son@yahoo.ca> > Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.britain > Subject: Re: cemetery > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 22:34:09 +0000 > Lines: 17 > Message-ID: <oplh5b5hcr1jk24bgdm3ri1tcrj92b263h@4ax.com> > References: <mailman.13.1448660544.23712.genbrit@rootsweb.com> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Trace: individual.net DmKc+edrZPtjYP9mh0a5RQX/LNxI1928+DMGt9fUpSUDCh1o9n > Cancel-Lock: sha1:HrDbCzuGwIyHhxaxBG8vEKqiol0= > X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 > X-Received-Bytes: 1468 > X-Received-Body-CRC: 737060994 > Bytes: 1604 > Xref: number.nntp.giganews.com soc.genealogy.britain:471548 > > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 14:09:33 +0000, nick ashby via > <genbrit@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >>Hi I am correct,that a person can be buried anywhere in the UK,in a >>cemetery different to the place of death. >> > They can be buried, cremated or exported anywhere but are you actually > thinking of the general right to be buried in the local parish > cemetery (if there is one) in England ? > referred to in :- > http://www.funeralinspirations.co.uk/information/Traditional-Burial.html > > A body cannot be removed from England and Wales without permission of > the Coroner but that is generally a matter of getting the right form, > informally called an "out of England" form/certificate (Form 104 > Removal Notice). Cremated remains are not a "body" and there are for > most practical purposes no special restrictions on their disposal. A friend and neighbour of mine recently died in London where he was working and was cremated in Scotland where he lived. Presumably the correct form was completed. -- Terry Wells

On 27/11/2015 22:34, Charles Ellson wrote: > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 14:09:33 +0000, nick ashby via > <genbrit@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Hi I am correct,that a person can be buried anywhere in the UK,in a >> cemetery different to the place of death. >> > They can be buried, cremated or exported anywhere but are you actually > thinking of the general right to be buried in the local parish > cemetery (if there is one) in England ? > referred to in :- > http://www.funeralinspirations.co.uk/information/Traditional-Burial.html > > A body cannot be removed from England and Wales without permission of > the Coroner but that is generally a matter of getting the right form, > informally called an "out of England" form/certificate (Form 104 > Removal Notice). Cremated remains are not a "body" and there are for > most practical purposes no special restrictions on their disposal. > Years ago we used to get a lot of parcels sent up to work from London by Red Star because it was far quicker and more reliable than any of the courier companies so we were often at the local station. I went one time to collect something and went around the back of the parcel office so I could take it straight through the back door. There was large coffin sized box covered in canvas in the parcel office, I asked about it and was told that they were known as 'single-enders' because they obviously were only going one way.

>> On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 14:09:33 +0000, nick ashby via >> <genbrit@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi I am correct,that a person can be buried anywhere in the UK,in a >>> cemetery different to the place of death. >>> >> They can be buried, cremated or exported anywhere but are you actually >> thinking of the general right to be buried in the local parish >> cemetery (if there is one) in England ? >> referred to in :- >> http://www.funeralinspirations.co.uk/information/Traditional-Burial.html >> >> A body cannot be removed from England and Wales without permission of >> the Coroner but that is generally a matter of getting the right form, >> informally called an "out of England" form/certificate (Form 104 >> Removal Notice). Cremated remains are not a "body" and there are for >> most practical purposes no special restrictions on their disposal. >> > > Years ago we used to get a lot of parcels sent up to work from London by > Red Star because it was far quicker and more reliable than any of the > courier companies so we were often at the local station. > > I went one time to collect something and went around the back of the > parcel office so I could take it straight through the back door. > > There was large coffin sized box covered in canvas in the parcel office, > I asked about it and was told that they were known as 'single-enders' > because they obviously were only going one way. > > > > - Thank you,for replies Distant relative born Watford Herts,died and death registered in Bristol.Buried in Watford Herts Nick

On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 22:34:09 +0000, Charles Ellson <ce11son@yahoo.ca> wrote: > Cremated remains are not a "body" and there are for >most practical purposes no special restrictions on their disposal. Until one gets down to the final actions, e.g. cemeteries have found that roses don't do well with an excess of ash, so control locations of scattering; in CoE (at least) consecrated ground, ashes should not be scattered, but buried. The minister should be involved; a "favorite location" is usually owned by some body who may not take kindly to having ash scattered, or holes dug; if disposal is to be in a churchyard, cemetery etc, the crematorium issues a piece of paper to give to the person in charge of the site. This is usually dealt with by the undertaker, if still involved in what is happening.

"cecilia" wrote in message news:qc2j5bda522guuli1fne3dqorj9t5bkv8s@4ax.com... > >On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 22:34:09 +0000, Charles Ellson <ce11son@yahoo.ca> >wrote: > >> Cremated remains are not a "body" and there are for >>most practical purposes no special restrictions on their disposal. > >Until one gets down to the final actions, e.g. > >cemeteries have found that roses don't do well with an excess of ash, >so control locations of scattering; > >in CoE (at least) consecrated ground, ashes should not be scattered, >but buried. The minister should be involved; > >a "favorite location" is usually owned by some body who may not take >kindly to having ash scattered, or holes dug; > >if disposal is to be in a churchyard, cemetery etc, the crematorium >issues a piece of paper to give to the person in charge of the site. >This is usually dealt with by the undertaker, if still involved in >what is happening. Having "disposed" of cremated remains I know what is involved in the UK. It is illegal to scatter ashes any where you like. To scatter ashes you must have the land owners permission otherwise you could be prosecuted for illegal disposal of human remains, I'm not sure about scattering at sea which is a different case. Burial in a cemetery is no problem but there is a charge which the cemetery will tell you. Inside the urn the crematorium places a piece of paper telling you what you can or cannot do with the ashes. We buried our friend's ashes in a family grave which we had to pay to have "opened". Transporting a body from one place to another can be expensive as you have to pay each local authority whose area you pass through so most people will choose to bury where the person died. There is no cost to carry ashes across the country. Flying a body requires a specially sealed coffin regardless of any embalming procedures carried out. People do scatter ashes without permission but they risk prosecution if caught. Gordon