I think the best way to regard this is that although they call it the 1939 Register, it is in reality the original register as amended in later years for DWP/NHS reasons - which is why many women are shown in their place of residence in 1939 but under the names that they subsequently acquired on marriage. It also seems to be the case that they have redacted anyone born after 1915 who had not subsequently died and whose record has been shown as such by the system. Quite why this has not been explained at the outset is yet another example of FMP's poor administration - I will forbear to go into the saga of my last renewal. I also understand that someone has already complained to Trading Standards because her last invitation to renew said (as did mine) that her membership would include all British records and now she is asked to pay for the Register. Brian Austin -----Original Message----- From: genbrit-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genbrit-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tickettyboo via Sent: 02 November 2015 23:37 To: genbrit@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: 1939 survey includes date of death? Alice PIKE at Edmonton On 2015-11-02 17:21:00 +0000, johnfhhgen via said: > On 02/11/2015 2:44 PM, Roger Mills via wrote: >> On 02/11/2015 04:54, Bob Campbell via wrote: >>> Do the transcripts for this survey indicate a year of death? >>> I do have an Alice Pike who has her birth year missing on the >>> transcript, but I already know this to be 1895 and have her listed >>> with Adelaide Wiltshire on the electoral roll for the same year, >>> from a search going back many years. >>> However I have over recent years failed to find Alice's death >>> registration. As these records were taken over by the NHS would >>> these also indicate a year of death? >>> cheers >>> Bob >> I wouldn't have thought so. ICBW but my impression is that you'll get >> the register entry as it was in 1939 for the people living at the time. >> If she died prior to that, she wouldn't be on it. If she died after >> that, her date of death wouldn't be known in 1939 unless the person >> compiling the record was clairvoyant. > Roger, > AFAIK there is evidence that the original register as scanned has been > updated. For example, my mother has had her married (1947) name added > and maiden name reduced to within brackets () in the index. Nor has > she been redacted (b.1917) so presumably her death (1977) noted. > Cannot remember when the cut-off date is, but someone here will know - > it may be in the FAQ on the site. One would have expected deaths to > have been entered, at least until the end of rationing and of > National Identity cards. > > That said, where the date or fact of death *has* been entered in the > register, one would expect the entry line to no longer be redacted, > and my mother's case would seem to confirm this. > > Regards, > John Henley I have been wondering about 'how' it was / is checked to see if the person has since died and info can be released. Maybe its something as simple as checking the GRO deaths index? In which case deaths prior to Q2 1969 (especially if it was a fairly common name) may not be so easily released as the index only gave an age at death. After Q2 1969 the index contained d.o.b. info so that may have influenced releasing records. ? I've sent off a death cert to FMP to request the release of a redacted record, but we all know the scenario where names were common and birth/death indexes can produce 2 or 3 in roughly the right year and quarter. -- Tickettyboo ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENBRIT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus