On 28/11/15 12:06, Gordon wrote: > To scatter ashes you must have the land owners permission otherwise > you could be prosecuted for illegal disposal of human remains, That's bollocks: you can't possibly be prosecuted for illegal disposal of human remains for the simple reason that ashes are not considered human remains. You could perhaps be prosecuted for littering or similar, or conceivably criminal damage (though the circumstances would have to be extraordinary to make that sticking). Richard

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 01:10:16 +0000, Richard Smith <richard@ex-parrot.com> wrote: >On 28/11/15 12:06, Gordon wrote: > >> To scatter ashes you must have the land owners permission otherwise >> you could be prosecuted for illegal disposal of human remains, > >That's bollocks: you can't possibly be prosecuted for illegal disposal >of human remains for the simple reason that ashes are not considered >human remains. > They are for various purposes but they are not equated with an entire human corpse. They effectively become just ashes once they leave the charge of persons responsible for dealing with the dead. >You could perhaps be prosecuted for littering or >similar, or conceivably criminal damage (though the circumstances would >have to be extraordinary to make that sticking). > >Richard

"Richard Smith" wrote in message news:dbv1jqFpavqU1@mid.individual.net... > >On 28/11/15 12:06, Gordon wrote: > >> To scatter ashes you must have the land owners permission otherwise >> you could be prosecuted for illegal disposal of human remains, > >That's bollocks: you can't possibly be prosecuted for illegal disposal >of human remains for the simple reason that ashes are not considered >human remains. You could perhaps be prosecuted for littering or similar, >or conceivably criminal damage (though the circumstances would have to be >extraordinary to make that sticking). > >Richard That shows how little you know. Ashes are still human remains and unauthorised scattering can be view as illegal disposal. Ask an undertaker or read the paper placed in the urn by the crematorium. Gordon

On 29/11/15 10:42, Gordon wrote: > "Richard Smith" wrote in message news:dbv1jqFpavqU1@mid.individual.net... >> >> On 28/11/15 12:06, Gordon wrote: >> >>> To scatter ashes you must have the land owners permission otherwise >>> you could be prosecuted for illegal disposal of human remains, >> >> That's bollocks: you can't possibly be prosecuted for illegal disposal >> of human remains for the simple reason that ashes are not considered >> human remains. You could perhaps be prosecuted for littering or >> similar, or conceivably criminal damage (though the circumstances >> would have to be extraordinary to make that sticking). >> >> Richard > > That shows how little you know. Ashes are still human remains and > unauthorised scattering can be view as illegal disposal. Ask an > undertaker or read the paper placed in the urn by the crematorium. Would such protection extend after ashes had been buried? There was an article in the local paper the other day that the ashes of someone connected with a local golf course had been buried there, presumably with agreement. There is now a proposal to build on the property. -- Hotmail is my spam bin. Real address is ianng at austonley org uk

"Ian Goddard" wrote in message news:dc06aiF31p0U1@mid.individual.net... > >Would such protection extend after ashes had been buried? There was an >article in the local paper the other day that the ashes of someone >connected with a local golf course had been buried there, presumably with >agreement. There is now a proposal to build on the property. > > Interesting question. I suspect they will be "duty bound" to reinter the ashes if they remove them. I don't think that they can just throw them away. They may be able to build over them but it will be a matter for the developers to resolve as you say it is known that the ashes are there. Presumably there are still relatives alive. Gordon

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 10:42:04 -0000, "Gordon" <gordonwb@argonet.co.uk> wrote: >{...] Ashes are still human remains and >unauthorised scattering can be view as illegal disposal. Ask an undertaker >or read the paper placed in the urn by the crematorium. If I recollect correctly, the piece of paper is for passing on to those in charge of a cemetery or churchyard if the ashes are to be disposed of in such a place. I don't remember any instructions if the ashes are being disposed of elsewhere than a cemetery or churchyard, e.g. in one's own garden.