In message <dc36srFqarmU1@mid.individual.net>, Richard Smith <richard@ex-parrot.com> writes: >On 30/11/15 10:16, Gordon wrote: > >> If I recall correctly it mentions requiring land owners permission before >> scattering or burial outside a cemetery or churchyard. > >Well, yes. Obviously. Technically you need the land owner's >permission to do almost anything. But ashes are no different to >anything else, and they're certainly not "human remains" if you're >scattering them as a private individual. The only relevant offences I >can see that might have been committed is the offence of leaving litter >under section 87 of the Environment Protection Act (1990), and that >would be dependent on a court finding that the ashes constituted litter >in those particular circumstances. If you scattered them on Centre >Court at Wimbledon, a court may well find you guilty; if you scattered >them on a secluded mountainside, there's almost no chance. In this, >it's no different from throwing away an apple core. > >Richard Who is the landowner in places like, say, Beachy Head? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Chuck Berry was once asked what he thought of Elvis Presley and he said, "He got what he wanted, but he lost what he had." [Quoted by Anne Widdicombe, in Radio Times 8-14 October 2011.]

On 30/11/2015 21:45, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: > In message <dc36srFqarmU1@mid.individual.net>, Richard Smith > <richard@ex-parrot.com> writes: >> On 30/11/15 10:16, Gordon wrote: >> >>> If I recall correctly it mentions requiring land owners permission >>> before >>> scattering or burial outside a cemetery or churchyard. >> >> Well, yes. Obviously. Technically you need the land owner's >> permission to do almost anything. But ashes are no different to >> anything else, and they're certainly not "human remains" if you're >> scattering them as a private individual. The only relevant offences I >> can see that might have been committed is the offence of leaving >> litter under section 87 of the Environment Protection Act (1990), and >> that would be dependent on a court finding that the ashes constituted >> litter in those particular circumstances. If you scattered them on >> Centre Court at Wimbledon, a court may well find you guilty; if you >> scattered them on a secluded mountainside, there's almost no chance. >> In this, it's no different from throwing away an apple core. >> >> Richard > > Who is the landowner in places like, say, Beachy Head? Eastbourne Borough Council in that case. Quite a lot of the more scenic parts of the coastline are owned by the National Trust. -- Graeme Wall This account not read, substitute trains for rail.

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 21:48:29 +0000, Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: >On 30/11/2015 21:45, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: >> In message <dc36srFqarmU1@mid.individual.net>, Richard Smith >> <richard@ex-parrot.com> writes: >>> On 30/11/15 10:16, Gordon wrote: >>> >>>> If I recall correctly it mentions requiring land owners permission >>>> before >>>> scattering or burial outside a cemetery or churchyard. >>> >>> Well, yes. Obviously. Technically you need the land owner's >>> permission to do almost anything. But ashes are no different to >>> anything else, and they're certainly not "human remains" if you're >>> scattering them as a private individual. The only relevant offences I >>> can see that might have been committed is the offence of leaving >>> litter under section 87 of the Environment Protection Act (1990), and >>> that would be dependent on a court finding that the ashes constituted >>> litter in those particular circumstances. If you scattered them on >>> Centre Court at Wimbledon, a court may well find you guilty; if you >>> scattered them on a secluded mountainside, there's almost no chance. >>> In this, it's no different from throwing away an apple core. >>> >>> Richard >> >> Who is the landowner in places like, say, Beachy Head? > The head or the foreshore below ? Around 50% of foreshore belongs to the Crown Estate :- http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/estates-map/ >Eastbourne Borough Council in that case. Quite a lot of the more scenic >parts of the coastline are owned by the National Trust.