On 22/12/2015 09:40, Mick IOW wrote: > Hi all, > Did some people dodge the 1911 census or would the records > have gone missing? > > Frederick Samuel Bartlett was born 1870 at: Dorchester, Dorset. > His wife: Mary Burt was born 1877 at: Whitwell, Isle of Wight, > Hampshire. > They married at: St Thomas, Newport, IOW, Hampshire, in 1896. > > Children: > Dorothy Amelia Bartlett born & died 1897 at: Isle of Wight, Hampshire. > > Lilian Mabel Bartlett born: 1898 died: 1979 at: Isle of > Wight,Hampshire. (did not marry) > > Frederick Samuel Bartlett born: 1900 at: Isle of Wight, Hampshire. > died: 1975 Isle of Wight, Hampshire. (did marry) > > Mary Violet Bartlett born: 1903 at: : Isle of Wight, Hampshire. died: > 1991 at: Isle of Wight, Hampshire. (did marry) > > > I have found a 1901 census with the family at: Fairlee Cottages, > 10, Fairlee Rd, Newport, Isle of Wight, Hampshire. > > The father: Frederick Samuel Bartlett occupation is: Wheelwright. > > I can find no census for any of them in 1911 yet all were alive. > > I thought I found one for the youngest child: Mary Violet Bartlett > born: 1903 At: Withy Bed Cottage, Pan Lane, Newport, IOW. > (with a grandfather) Charles Sivier a Widowed Male Occupation: > Cowman On Farm aged: 52 born: 1859 At: Cowes I O W > (Mary Bartlett Granddaughter - Female aged: 7born: 1904at: Newport > I of W.) > > But her Maternal grandparents are: Leonard Alfred Burt & Fanny > Russell. > > I have as yet found no parents for her father: Frederick Samuel > Bartlett born 1870 at: Dorchester, Dorset. > > Can anyone suggest where I am going wrong please? > Mick. IOW. > I think you may be on the right track with the granddaughter Mary in the 1911 Census. You will find Charles Sivier in 1901 with his wife, named Mary. You will then find a marriage in 1886 in the Isle of Wight of Charles Richard Sivier marrying either Ellen Bartlett or Mary Marshall. If I were you, I would dig a little deeper into the Sivier family to see if/where they connect with your Bartletts. -- Jenny M Benson

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:34:32 +0000, Jenny M Benson <nemonews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >On 22/12/2015 09:40, Mick IOW wrote: >> Hi all, >> Did some people dodge the 1911 census or would the records >> have gone missing? >> >> Frederick Samuel Bartlett was born 1870 at: Dorchester, Dorset. >> His wife: Mary Burt was born 1877 at: Whitwell, Isle of Wight, >> Hampshire. >> They married at: St Thomas, Newport, IOW, Hampshire, in 1896. >> >> Children: >> Dorothy Amelia Bartlett born & died 1897 at: Isle of Wight, Hampshire. >> >> Lilian Mabel Bartlett born: 1898 died: 1979 at: Isle of >> Wight,Hampshire. (did not marry) >> >> Frederick Samuel Bartlett born: 1900 at: Isle of Wight, Hampshire. >> died: 1975 Isle of Wight, Hampshire. (did marry) >> >> Mary Violet Bartlett born: 1903 at: : Isle of Wight, Hampshire. died: >> 1991 at: Isle of Wight, Hampshire. (did marry) >> >> >> I have found a 1901 census with the family at: Fairlee Cottages, >> 10, Fairlee Rd, Newport, Isle of Wight, Hampshire. >> >> The father: Frederick Samuel Bartlett occupation is: Wheelwright. >> >> I can find no census for any of them in 1911 yet all were alive. >> >> I thought I found one for the youngest child: Mary Violet Bartlett >> born: 1903 At: Withy Bed Cottage, Pan Lane, Newport, IOW. >> (with a grandfather) Charles Sivier a Widowed Male Occupation: >> Cowman On Farm aged: 52 born: 1859 At: Cowes I O W >> (Mary Bartlett Granddaughter - Female aged: 7born: 1904at: Newport >> I of W.) >> >> But her Maternal grandparents are: Leonard Alfred Burt & Fanny >> Russell. >> >> I have as yet found no parents for her father: Frederick Samuel >> Bartlett born 1870 at: Dorchester, Dorset. >> >> Can anyone suggest where I am going wrong please? >> Mick. IOW. >> >I think you may be on the right track with the granddaughter Mary in the >1911 Census. > >You will find Charles Sivier in 1901 with his wife, named Mary. You >will then find a marriage in 1886 in the Isle of Wight of Charles >Richard Sivier marrying either Ellen Bartlett or Mary Marshall. > >If I were you, I would dig a little deeper into the Sivier family to see >if/where they connect with your Bartletts. > Some people missed the census by being away from home overnight and apparently not being somewhere that was enumerated (my grandmother, her aunt and two or three cousins); others had a household that was listed for enumeration but no trace of the schedule in the available records (my great-grandfather's family whose house had the front door on a different street and seems to have been missed by both potential enumerators).

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 19:18:47 +0000, Charles Ellson <ce11son@yahoo.ca> wrote: >Some people missed the census by being away from home overnight and >apparently not being somewhere that was enumerated (my grandmother, >her aunt and two or three cousins); others had a household that was >listed for enumeration but no trace of the schedule in the available >records (my great-grandfather's family whose house had the front door >on a different street and seems to have been missed by both potential >enumerators). Jenny & Charles, Thank you very much for replying and advising me. Jenny has given me tracks to try and follow. Mick.IOW.