On 26/10/2015 16:52, Charles Ellson wrote: > On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 07:53:48 +0000, Graeme Wall > <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >> On 26/10/2015 00:48, Steve Hayes wrote: >>> On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 22:03:56 +0000, Graeme Wall >>> <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> On 25/10/2015 20:40, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: >>>>> In message <05c33620-c70a-4959-8a66-5dddf30c1c83@googlegroups.com>, >>>>> melanie chesnel <mellychesnel@gmail.com> writes: >>>>>> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 9:05:20 AM UTC+2, J. P. Gilliver >>>>>> (John) wrote: >>>>> [] >>>>>>> In my own researches, I had assumed the coming of the railways in the >>>>>>> mid to late 19C would have led to much greater migration around the >>>>>>> country; however, I've found the effect was much less than I'd expected. >>>>>>> Still, when doing research for work colleagues (at Rochester in Kent), I >>>>>>> find quite a lot of them are from local areas. >>>>> [] >>>>>> I think even before the railways there was quite a lot of movement >>>>>> over long distances in some families and notably mine. Both my >>>>>> mother's and >>>>> [] >>>>>> This shows you can take nothing for granted about the movement of >>>>>> people in the past. Each family is different and some were very >>>>>> mobile, particularly mariners and artisans. Just think stone masons >>>>>> building castles and cathederals v. ag labs >>>>>> regards melanie chesnel >>>>> >>>>> Well, obviously I can only speak from my own researches - which are >>>>> that, in an awful lot of cases, people didn't move much during their >>>>> lifetime - even after the railways, and even in towns. Not just my own >>>>> family (which is diverse - but comes from a lot of little clusters who >>>>> mostly didn't move much), but research I've done for others too. >>>>> >>>>> Occasionally you (I) _do_ find someone who's moved a long way; but, I've >>>>> generally found them the exception. YMMV (well, clearly does). >>>> >>>> Teachers and Churchmen! One of my wife's gg-grandfathers was both and, >>>> as a National School teacher he moved from Abergavenny to Manchester via >>>> Staffordshire, then remustered as a vicar and successively was in >>>> Dumbarton, a Devonshire village, Oban, Aberdeen and finally died in >>>> Guildford. >>> >>> One of my most puzzling ones was a gg grandfather, whose family came >>> from the Isle of Axholme. He lived in Hull, got married in Bath, and >>> Came to Natal within a month of getting married. I wondered how he >>> came to meet his wife, as Hull and Bath seem quite far apart. The Bath >>> family were from Belfast, and seem to have been from quite settled >>> farmers in Ballynure before the 19th century, when they scattered to >>> Quebec, Mauritius, Bath and Durban. >>> >>> >> >> The teacher/vicar still puzzles me about how he met his wife, he was >> born in Hathern, Leics. She was born in Wrexham. He was a teacher in >> Abergavenny and she was a teacher in Cardigan, right the other side of >> Wales. >> > Do you know the in-laws' whereabouts at the relative times ? > Hathern and Wrexham respectively! My theory is they met wherever they did their training but I've no idea where that was likely to have been. A bit like modern couples meeting at Uni. -- Graeme Wall This account not read, substitute trains for rail.

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 17:40:24 +0000, Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: >On 26/10/2015 16:52, Charles Ellson wrote: >> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 07:53:48 +0000, Graeme Wall >> <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> On 26/10/2015 00:48, Steve Hayes wrote: >>>> On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 22:03:56 +0000, Graeme Wall >>>> <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 25/10/2015 20:40, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: >>>>>> In message <05c33620-c70a-4959-8a66-5dddf30c1c83@googlegroups.com>, >>>>>> melanie chesnel <mellychesnel@gmail.com> writes: >>>>>>> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 9:05:20 AM UTC+2, J. P. Gilliver >>>>>>> (John) wrote: >>>>>> [] >>>>>>>> In my own researches, I had assumed the coming of the railways in the >>>>>>>> mid to late 19C would have led to much greater migration around the >>>>>>>> country; however, I've found the effect was much less than I'd expected. >>>>>>>> Still, when doing research for work colleagues (at Rochester in Kent), I >>>>>>>> find quite a lot of them are from local areas. >>>>>> [] >>>>>>> I think even before the railways there was quite a lot of movement >>>>>>> over long distances in some families and notably mine. Both my >>>>>>> mother's and >>>>>> [] >>>>>>> This shows you can take nothing for granted about the movement of >>>>>>> people in the past. Each family is different and some were very >>>>>>> mobile, particularly mariners and artisans. Just think stone masons >>>>>>> building castles and cathederals v. ag labs >>>>>>> regards melanie chesnel >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, obviously I can only speak from my own researches - which are >>>>>> that, in an awful lot of cases, people didn't move much during their >>>>>> lifetime - even after the railways, and even in towns. Not just my own >>>>>> family (which is diverse - but comes from a lot of little clusters who >>>>>> mostly didn't move much), but research I've done for others too. >>>>>> >>>>>> Occasionally you (I) _do_ find someone who's moved a long way; but, I've >>>>>> generally found them the exception. YMMV (well, clearly does). >>>>> >>>>> Teachers and Churchmen! One of my wife's gg-grandfathers was both and, >>>>> as a National School teacher he moved from Abergavenny to Manchester via >>>>> Staffordshire, then remustered as a vicar and successively was in >>>>> Dumbarton, a Devonshire village, Oban, Aberdeen and finally died in >>>>> Guildford. >>>> >>>> One of my most puzzling ones was a gg grandfather, whose family came >>>> from the Isle of Axholme. He lived in Hull, got married in Bath, and >>>> Came to Natal within a month of getting married. I wondered how he >>>> came to meet his wife, as Hull and Bath seem quite far apart. The Bath >>>> family were from Belfast, and seem to have been from quite settled >>>> farmers in Ballynure before the 19th century, when they scattered to >>>> Quebec, Mauritius, Bath and Durban. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> The teacher/vicar still puzzles me about how he met his wife, he was >>> born in Hathern, Leics. She was born in Wrexham. He was a teacher in >>> Abergavenny and she was a teacher in Cardigan, right the other side of >>> Wales. >>> >> Do you know the in-laws' whereabouts at the relative times ? >> > >Hathern and Wrexham respectively! My theory is they met wherever they >did their training but I've no idea where that was likely to have been. > A bit like modern couples meeting at Uni. > My father and his first wife were brought up in Willesden but AFAIAA met during teacher training in Exeter.

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 17:40:24 +0000, Graeme Wall wrote [...] >>> The teacher/vicar still puzzles me about how he met his wife, he was >>> born in Hathern, Leics. She was born in Wrexham. He was a teacher in >>> Abergavenny and she was a teacher in Cardigan, right the other side of >>> Wales. >>> >> Do you know the in-laws' whereabouts at the relative times ? >> > >Hathern and Wrexham respectively! My theory is they met wherever they >did their training but I've no idea where that was likely to have been. > A bit like modern couples meeting at Uni. Or, again nowadays, people from different countries meeting at a conference in a third country..