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    1. Re: Britons still live in Anglo-Saxon tribal kingdoms, Oxford University finds
    2. Graeme Wall via
    3. On 26/10/2015 00:48, Steve Hayes wrote: > On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 22:03:56 +0000, Graeme Wall > <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >> On 25/10/2015 20:40, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: >>> In message <05c33620-c70a-4959-8a66-5dddf30c1c83@googlegroups.com>, >>> melanie chesnel <mellychesnel@gmail.com> writes: >>>> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 9:05:20 AM UTC+2, J. P. Gilliver >>>> (John) wrote: >>> [] >>>>> In my own researches, I had assumed the coming of the railways in the >>>>> mid to late 19C would have led to much greater migration around the >>>>> country; however, I've found the effect was much less than I'd expected. >>>>> Still, when doing research for work colleagues (at Rochester in Kent), I >>>>> find quite a lot of them are from local areas. >>> [] >>>> I think even before the railways there was quite a lot of movement >>>> over long distances in some families and notably mine. Both my >>>> mother's and >>> [] >>>> This shows you can take nothing for granted about the movement of >>>> people in the past. Each family is different and some were very >>>> mobile, particularly mariners and artisans. Just think stone masons >>>> building castles and cathederals v. ag labs >>>> regards melanie chesnel >>> >>> Well, obviously I can only speak from my own researches - which are >>> that, in an awful lot of cases, people didn't move much during their >>> lifetime - even after the railways, and even in towns. Not just my own >>> family (which is diverse - but comes from a lot of little clusters who >>> mostly didn't move much), but research I've done for others too. >>> >>> Occasionally you (I) _do_ find someone who's moved a long way; but, I've >>> generally found them the exception. YMMV (well, clearly does). >> >> Teachers and Churchmen! One of my wife's gg-grandfathers was both and, >> as a National School teacher he moved from Abergavenny to Manchester via >> Staffordshire, then remustered as a vicar and successively was in >> Dumbarton, a Devonshire village, Oban, Aberdeen and finally died in >> Guildford. > > One of my most puzzling ones was a gg grandfather, whose family came > from the Isle of Axholme. He lived in Hull, got married in Bath, and > Came to Natal within a month of getting married. I wondered how he > came to meet his wife, as Hull and Bath seem quite far apart. The Bath > family were from Belfast, and seem to have been from quite settled > farmers in Ballynure before the 19th century, when they scattered to > Quebec, Mauritius, Bath and Durban. > > The teacher/vicar still puzzles me about how he met his wife, he was born in Hathern, Leics. She was born in Wrexham. He was a teacher in Abergavenny and she was a teacher in Cardigan, right the other side of Wales. -- Graeme Wall This account not read, substitute trains for rail.

    10/26/2015 01:53:48
    1. Re: Britons still live in Anglo-Saxon tribal kingdoms, Oxford University finds
    2. Charles Ellson via
    3. On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 07:53:48 +0000, Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: >On 26/10/2015 00:48, Steve Hayes wrote: >> On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 22:03:56 +0000, Graeme Wall >> <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> On 25/10/2015 20:40, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: >>>> In message <05c33620-c70a-4959-8a66-5dddf30c1c83@googlegroups.com>, >>>> melanie chesnel <mellychesnel@gmail.com> writes: >>>>> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 9:05:20 AM UTC+2, J. P. Gilliver >>>>> (John) wrote: >>>> [] >>>>>> In my own researches, I had assumed the coming of the railways in the >>>>>> mid to late 19C would have led to much greater migration around the >>>>>> country; however, I've found the effect was much less than I'd expected. >>>>>> Still, when doing research for work colleagues (at Rochester in Kent), I >>>>>> find quite a lot of them are from local areas. >>>> [] >>>>> I think even before the railways there was quite a lot of movement >>>>> over long distances in some families and notably mine. Both my >>>>> mother's and >>>> [] >>>>> This shows you can take nothing for granted about the movement of >>>>> people in the past. Each family is different and some were very >>>>> mobile, particularly mariners and artisans. Just think stone masons >>>>> building castles and cathederals v. ag labs >>>>> regards melanie chesnel >>>> >>>> Well, obviously I can only speak from my own researches - which are >>>> that, in an awful lot of cases, people didn't move much during their >>>> lifetime - even after the railways, and even in towns. Not just my own >>>> family (which is diverse - but comes from a lot of little clusters who >>>> mostly didn't move much), but research I've done for others too. >>>> >>>> Occasionally you (I) _do_ find someone who's moved a long way; but, I've >>>> generally found them the exception. YMMV (well, clearly does). >>> >>> Teachers and Churchmen! One of my wife's gg-grandfathers was both and, >>> as a National School teacher he moved from Abergavenny to Manchester via >>> Staffordshire, then remustered as a vicar and successively was in >>> Dumbarton, a Devonshire village, Oban, Aberdeen and finally died in >>> Guildford. >> >> One of my most puzzling ones was a gg grandfather, whose family came >> from the Isle of Axholme. He lived in Hull, got married in Bath, and >> Came to Natal within a month of getting married. I wondered how he >> came to meet his wife, as Hull and Bath seem quite far apart. The Bath >> family were from Belfast, and seem to have been from quite settled >> farmers in Ballynure before the 19th century, when they scattered to >> Quebec, Mauritius, Bath and Durban. >> >> > >The teacher/vicar still puzzles me about how he met his wife, he was >born in Hathern, Leics. She was born in Wrexham. He was a teacher in >Abergavenny and she was a teacher in Cardigan, right the other side of >Wales. > Do you know the in-laws' whereabouts at the relative times ?

    10/26/2015 10:52:32