On 09/11/2015 18:32, Graeme Wall wrote: > On 09/11/2015 17:33, Brian Pears wrote: >> On Monday, 9 November 2015 17:28:14 UTC, Tickettyboo wrote: >>> On 2015-11-09 15:51:44 +0000, Brian Pears said: >>> >>>> There has been some speculation as to whether there could be some >>>> annotation indicating death on the part of the right hand page of >>>> the 1939 Register which we cannot see. Sometimes enumerators make >>>> errors and put things in the wrong columns, and I'm wondering if >>>> that's what's happened in a case I've come across. >>>> >>>> The entry in question is that of a Mabel CROWDY of 2 Grove Road, >>>> Willesden DOB 29 July 1900, an Invoice Filing Clerk Ref >>>> RG101/0981C/005/15. In the first column on the right hand page >>>> there is a red asterisk followed by the annotation "D250-3 14665" >>>> in green ink. >>>> >>>> Checking in FreeBMD I find that a Mabel CROWDY age 64 had her death >>>> registered in the second quarter (Apr/May/Jun) 1965. Ref Q2 1965 St >>>> Pancras 5d 886. >>>> >>>> This led me to speculate that the "14665" part of the annotation >>>> could, in fact, be her DOB 14/6/65 ? Yes, I'm aware that such a >>>> contraction could lead to ambiguities (eg 21248) but that aside, it >>>> is certainly possible that deaths that were known to whoever kept >>>> these registers were normally marked in some such way in another >>>> column on the right hand page. >>>> >>>> Of course, if I was really keen, I could obtain Mabel's death >>>> certificate to see if she did in fact die on the 14th June. However >>>> I'm not willing to part with a tenner just to satisfy my curiosity. >>> >>> >>> Always more than one way to skin a cat :-) >>> Deceased Online, free search. Mabel CROWDY 1965 >>> gives >>> West London Crematorium (Kensington) >>> cremated on 18th June 1965 >>> date of death 14th June 1965 >>> >>> Was she one of your family? or just someone on the same page as one of >>> yours where you spotted the date? >>> >>> -- >>> Tickettyboo >> >> Excellent! So the annotation was indeed the DOB. > > <cough> DOD. > I thought the same - and then wondered whether DOB was referring to date of burial - rather than the more usual date of birth. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked.

On 09/11/2015 17:36, Tickettyboo via wrote: > > She was a widow, death registered St Pancras and the name of the person > > requesting cremation was Dudley G CROWDY (NSR) Not too sure what the > > NSR means but other entries have things like wife, niece, son so > > perhaps 'no stated relationship' ? - but that's just me guessing. Thanks for the additional info. The Deceased Online site looks very useful indeed. Certainly worth investigating. -- Brian Pears (Gateshead)

On 09/11/2015 17:33, Brian Pears wrote: > On Monday, 9 November 2015 17:28:14 UTC, Tickettyboo wrote: >> On 2015-11-09 15:51:44 +0000, Brian Pears said: >> >>> There has been some speculation as to whether there could be some >>> annotation indicating death on the part of the right hand page of >>> the 1939 Register which we cannot see. Sometimes enumerators make >>> errors and put things in the wrong columns, and I'm wondering if >>> that's what's happened in a case I've come across. >>> >>> The entry in question is that of a Mabel CROWDY of 2 Grove Road, >>> Willesden DOB 29 July 1900, an Invoice Filing Clerk Ref >>> RG101/0981C/005/15. In the first column on the right hand page >>> there is a red asterisk followed by the annotation "D250-3 14665" >>> in green ink. >>> >>> Checking in FreeBMD I find that a Mabel CROWDY age 64 had her death >>> registered in the second quarter (Apr/May/Jun) 1965. Ref Q2 1965 St >>> Pancras 5d 886. >>> >>> This led me to speculate that the "14665" part of the annotation >>> could, in fact, be her DOB 14/6/65 ? Yes, I'm aware that such a >>> contraction could lead to ambiguities (eg 21248) but that aside, it >>> is certainly possible that deaths that were known to whoever kept >>> these registers were normally marked in some such way in another >>> column on the right hand page. >>> >>> Of course, if I was really keen, I could obtain Mabel's death >>> certificate to see if she did in fact die on the 14th June. However >>> I'm not willing to part with a tenner just to satisfy my curiosity. >> >> >> Always more than one way to skin a cat :-) >> Deceased Online, free search. Mabel CROWDY 1965 >> gives >> West London Crematorium (Kensington) >> cremated on 18th June 1965 >> date of death 14th June 1965 >> >> Was she one of your family? or just someone on the same page as one of >> yours where you spotted the date? >> >> -- >> Tickettyboo > > Excellent! So the annotation was indeed the DOB. <cough> DOD. > > Mabel was the landlady of my wife's uncle Bill. > > Brian > -- Graeme Wall This account not read, substitute trains for rail.

On 2015-11-09 17:33:31 +0000, Brian Pears said: > On Monday, 9 November 2015 17:28:14 UTC, Tickettyboo wrote: >> On 2015-11-09 15:51:44 +0000, Brian Pears said: >> >>> There has been some speculation as to whether there could be some >>> annotation indicating death on the part of the right hand page of >>> the 1939 Register which we cannot see. Sometimes enumerators make >>> errors and put things in the wrong columns, and I'm wondering if >>> that's what's happened in a case I've come across. >>> >>> The entry in question is that of a Mabel CROWDY of 2 Grove Road, >>> Willesden DOB 29 July 1900, an Invoice Filing Clerk Ref >>> RG101/0981C/005/15. In the first column on the right hand page >>> there is a red asterisk followed by the annotation "D250-3 14665" >>> in green ink. >>> >>> Checking in FreeBMD I find that a Mabel CROWDY age 64 had her death >>> registered in the second quarter (Apr/May/Jun) 1965. Ref Q2 1965 St >>> Pancras 5d 886. >>> >>> This led me to speculate that the "14665" part of the annotation >>> could, in fact, be her DOB 14/6/65 ? Yes, I'm aware that such a >>> contraction could lead to ambiguities (eg 21248) but that aside, it >>> is certainly possible that deaths that were known to whoever kept >>> these registers were normally marked in some such way in another >>> column on the right hand page. >>> >>> Of course, if I was really keen, I could obtain Mabel's death >>> certificate to see if she did in fact die on the 14th June. However >>> I'm not willing to part with a tenner just to satisfy my curiosity. >> >> >> Always more than one way to skin a cat :-) >> Deceased Online, free search. Mabel CROWDY 1965 >> gives >> West London Crematorium (Kensington) >> cremated on 18th June 1965 >> date of death 14th June 1965 >> >> Was she one of your family? or just someone on the same page as one of >> yours where you spotted the date? >> >> -- >> Tickettyboo > > Excellent! So the annotation was indeed the DOB. > > Mabel was the landlady of my wife's uncle Bill. > > Brian I have a couple of G Aunts and G Uncles who 'emigrated' from the North East down to London and the South East. Deceased Online has been great for sorting out death dates for twiglets (for whom I just can't afford to buy certs). I used the free search for a long time and that was really useful, but the sub has been good value , giving details of address, relations etc. Coverage is increasing to other areas of the country so I am pleased about that. -- Tickettyboo

On 2015-11-09 17:28:12 +0000, Tickettyboo said: > On 2015-11-09 15:51:44 +0000, Brian Pears said: > >> There has been some speculation as to whether there could be some >> annotation indicating death on the part of the right hand page of >> the 1939 Register which we cannot see. Sometimes enumerators make >> errors and put things in the wrong columns, and I'm wondering if >> that's what's happened in a case I've come across. >> >> The entry in question is that of a Mabel CROWDY of 2 Grove Road, >> Willesden DOB 29 July 1900, an Invoice Filing Clerk Ref >> RG101/0981C/005/15. In the first column on the right hand page >> there is a red asterisk followed by the annotation "D250-3 14665" >> in green ink. >> >> Checking in FreeBMD I find that a Mabel CROWDY age 64 had her death >> registered in the second quarter (Apr/May/Jun) 1965. Ref Q2 1965 St >> Pancras 5d 886. >> >> This led me to speculate that the "14665" part of the annotation >> could, in fact, be her DOB 14/6/65 ? Yes, I'm aware that such a >> contraction could lead to ambiguities (eg 21248) but that aside, it >> is certainly possible that deaths that were known to whoever kept >> these registers were normally marked in some such way in another >> column on the right hand page. >> >> Of course, if I was really keen, I could obtain Mabel's death >> certificate to see if she did in fact die on the 14th June. However >> I'm not willing to part with a tenner just to satisfy my curiosity. > > > Always more than one way to skin a cat :-) > Deceased Online, free search. Mabel CROWDY 1965 > gives > West London Crematorium (Kensington) > cremated on 18th June 1965 > date of death 14th June 1965 > > Was she one of your family? or just someone on the same page as one of > yours where you spotted the date? Sorry, slippery fingeritis meant I sent that without saying I have a sub and looked up the details. She was a widow, death registered St Pancras and the name of the person requesting cremation was Dudley G CROWDY (NSR) Not too sure what the NSR means but other entries have things like wife, niece, son so perhaps 'no stated relationship' ? - but that's just me guessing. -- Tickettyboo

On 2015-11-09 15:51:44 +0000, Brian Pears said: > There has been some speculation as to whether there could be some > annotation indicating death on the part of the right hand page of > the 1939 Register which we cannot see. Sometimes enumerators make > errors and put things in the wrong columns, and I'm wondering if > that's what's happened in a case I've come across. > > The entry in question is that of a Mabel CROWDY of 2 Grove Road, > Willesden DOB 29 July 1900, an Invoice Filing Clerk Ref > RG101/0981C/005/15. In the first column on the right hand page > there is a red asterisk followed by the annotation "D250-3 14665" > in green ink. > > Checking in FreeBMD I find that a Mabel CROWDY age 64 had her death > registered in the second quarter (Apr/May/Jun) 1965. Ref Q2 1965 St > Pancras 5d 886. > > This led me to speculate that the "14665" part of the annotation > could, in fact, be her DOB 14/6/65 ? Yes, I'm aware that such a > contraction could lead to ambiguities (eg 21248) but that aside, it > is certainly possible that deaths that were known to whoever kept > these registers were normally marked in some such way in another > column on the right hand page. > > Of course, if I was really keen, I could obtain Mabel's death > certificate to see if she did in fact die on the 14th June. However > I'm not willing to part with a tenner just to satisfy my curiosity. Always more than one way to skin a cat :-) Deceased Online, free search. Mabel CROWDY 1965 gives West London Crematorium (Kensington) cremated on 18th June 1965 date of death 14th June 1965 Was she one of your family? or just someone on the same page as one of yours where you spotted the date? -- Tickettyboo

On Monday, 9 November 2015 17:28:14 UTC, Tickettyboo wrote: > On 2015-11-09 15:51:44 +0000, Brian Pears said: > > > There has been some speculation as to whether there could be some > > annotation indicating death on the part of the right hand page of > > the 1939 Register which we cannot see. Sometimes enumerators make > > errors and put things in the wrong columns, and I'm wondering if > > that's what's happened in a case I've come across. > > > > The entry in question is that of a Mabel CROWDY of 2 Grove Road, > > Willesden DOB 29 July 1900, an Invoice Filing Clerk Ref > > RG101/0981C/005/15. In the first column on the right hand page > > there is a red asterisk followed by the annotation "D250-3 14665" > > in green ink. > > > > Checking in FreeBMD I find that a Mabel CROWDY age 64 had her death > > registered in the second quarter (Apr/May/Jun) 1965. Ref Q2 1965 St > > Pancras 5d 886. > > > > This led me to speculate that the "14665" part of the annotation > > could, in fact, be her DOB 14/6/65 ? Yes, I'm aware that such a > > contraction could lead to ambiguities (eg 21248) but that aside, it > > is certainly possible that deaths that were known to whoever kept > > these registers were normally marked in some such way in another > > column on the right hand page. > > > > Of course, if I was really keen, I could obtain Mabel's death > > certificate to see if she did in fact die on the 14th June. However > > I'm not willing to part with a tenner just to satisfy my curiosity. > > > Always more than one way to skin a cat :-) > Deceased Online, free search. Mabel CROWDY 1965 > gives > West London Crematorium (Kensington) > cremated on 18th June 1965 > date of death 14th June 1965 > > Was she one of your family? or just someone on the same page as one of > yours where you spotted the date? > > -- > Tickettyboo Excellent! So the annotation was indeed the DOB. Mabel was the landlady of my wife's uncle Bill. Brian

On Friday, 3 July 2015 20:57:17 UTC+1, David Mills wrote: > On 28/06/2015 21:33, dialsquare via wrote: > > > > Charles A Furnivall of Middleton Road Chafferton was buried in Grave M5 > > 85 on June 11th 1898 > > > > He had died 2 days earlier on the 9th > > > > Good Luck > > > > Antony > > > >I have bought Penn's birth certificate which confirms that he is connected to the Egham ,Surrey Furnivalls. His father was George Frederick Furnivall a publisher. These Furnivalls and later descendants were rich, famous and intellectuals. > > > > On 28.06.2015 09:39, Anne Chambers via wrote: > >> David Mills wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> What a complicated life Penn seems to have had. > >>> > >>> > >> I see he was jailed for five years for "Cheating" - I wonder if that > >> just meant "Fraud" or something more > >> interesting. As you say, complicated ! According to Google Books > >> (The Lancet) he passed his first exam in > >> 1868 - I wonder if the cheating had anything to do with examinations. > > C > > Based on what I have found and the replies here I think that Penn was a > bigamist and his wife Agnes probably knew he was. > She seems to have left Oldham and returned to the London/Essex area. > On her marriage his daughter Agnes Mary states her father Penn was > deceased so it is likely that the family knew his circumstances. > Any comments? On Friday, 3 July 2015 20:57:17 UTC+1, David Mills wrote: > On 28/06/2015 21:33, dialsquare via wrote: > > > > Charles A Furnivall of Middleton Road Chafferton was buried in Grave M5 > > 85 on June 11th 1898 > > > > He had died 2 days earlier on the 9th > > > > Good Luck > > > > Antony > > > > > > > > > > On 28.06.2015 09:39, Anne Chambers via wrote: > >> David Mills wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> What a complicated life Penn seems to have had. > >>> > >>> > >> I see he was jailed for five years for "Cheating" - I wonder if that > >> just meant "Fraud" or something more > >> interesting. As you say, complicated ! According to Google Books > >> (The Lancet) he passed his first exam in > >> 1868 - I wonder if the cheating had anything to do with examinations. > > C > > Based on what I have found and the replies here I think that Penn was a > bigamist and his wife Agnes probably knew he was. > She seems to have left Oldham and returned to the London/Essex area. > On her marriage his daughter Agnes Mary states her father Penn was > deceased so it is likely that the family knew his circumstances. > Any comments?

On 08/11/2015 19:48, Jenny M Benson wrote: > On 04/11/2015 01:03, nick ashby via wrote: >> Have noticed,that if you find a person and make a note of the reference >> eg RG101/1600D/003/15,in advance search,TNA Reference and enter 1600D >> Piece number 003 Item number,no other details,this will show,a group of >> people and you can work out who is living with whom. > > I tried this the other day and it worked. To-day I am not seeing the > reference. Have FMP got wise and stopped showing that information on the > preview? > Yes, it does look different from the last time I looked. But, in one way, they're giving *more* information. For example, when I first searched for my parents by entering my father's name, the preview showed him and said that there was one other person (whom I assumed to be my mother) plus one who is officially locked (whom I assume to be my elder brother who would have been 5 or 6 at the time - I wasn't born) But when I looked today, it listed my father and said {my mother's name} is also on the record, plus one closed person. And when I looked for my widowed grandmother and my (then) 3 unmarried aunts and uncles who were living with her, a similar thing happened. Each time I searched for an explicit aunt or uncle, they were listed and it said that the record also contained {my grandmother} by name plus two other unnamed (but not locked - they were all born before 1910 and are all dead) people. So, if you've got a good idea as to who should be in a household, you can get pretty close to confirming it without spending any money! -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked.

On 04/11/2015 01:03, nick ashby via wrote: > Have noticed,that if you find a person and make a note of the reference > eg RG101/1600D/003/15,in advance search,TNA Reference and enter 1600D > Piece number 003 Item number,no other details,this will show,a group of > people and you can work out who is living with whom. I tried this the other day and it worked. To-day I am not seeing the reference. Have FMP got wise and stopped showing that information on the preview? -- Jenny M Benson

There has been some speculation as to whether there could be some annotation indicating death on the part of the right hand page of the register which we cannot see. Sometimes enumerators make errors and put things in the wrong columns, and I'm wondering if that's what's happened in a case I've come across. The entry in question is that of a Mabel CROWDY of 2 Grove Road, Willesden DOB 29 July 1900, an Invoice Filing Clerk Ref RG101/0981C/005/15. In the first column on the right hand page there is a red asterisk followed by the annotation "D250-3 14665" in green ink. Checking in FreeBMD I find that a Mabel CROWDY age 64 had her death registered in the second quarter (Apr/May/Jun) 1965. Ref Q2 1965 St Pancras 5d 886. This led me to speculate that the "14665" part of the annotation could, in fact, be her DOB 14/6/65 ? Yes, I'm aware that such a contraction could lead to ambiguities (eg 21248) but that aside, it is certainly possible that deaths that were known to whoever kept these registers were normally marked in some such way in another column on the right hand page. Of course, if I was really keen, I could obtain Mabel's death certificate to see if she did in fact die on the 14th June. However I'm not willing to part with a tenner just to satisfy my curiosity. -- Brian Pears (Gateshead)

Doug Laidlaw wrote: >> Sounds as likely as one of mine, Bob. He is supposed to have >> taken a dislike >> to his stepfather, fired a gun at him, then ran away to sea and >> came back a captain. >> the truth is that his father was a captain. The son was a >> merchant who married >> then emigrated to South Australia in the usual way. >> >> But you have a "record."How believable is it? >> >> Doug in Bendigo, Vic. >> -- >> > > Another thought, Bob. Would he have been accepted as a sailor at 15? > > Doug. > The usual age for merchant marine apprentices was 14, some boys went to sea even earlier as cabin boys and the like. Midshipmen in the Royal Navy could be as young as 10 or 11. -- Anne Chambers South Australia anne dot chambers at bigpond dot com

On 07/11/2015 21:30, Doug Laidlaw wrote: > Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> Wrote in message: >> Bob Campbell via <genbrit@rootsweb.com> Wrote in message: >>> I have just received via mail a record stating that at the age of 14/15 an >>> ancestor George Lake PICKERING "ran away to sea" in 1823. >>> My question being, are there any records online, Royal Navy or merchant >>> seaman crew lists from this period? >>> 5 years later in 1828 George Lake PICKERING was back in London getting >>> married and remained in London/Surrey for the remainder of his life. >>> >>> Cheers from >>> Bob in Brisbane >>> >>> >> >> Sounds as likely as one of mine, Bob. He is supposed to have >> taken a dislike >> to his stepfather, fired a gun at him, then ran away to sea and >> came back a captain. >> the truth is that his father was a captain. The son was a >> merchant who married >> then emigrated to South Australia in the usual way. >> >> But you have a "record."How believable is it? >> >> Doug in Bendigo, Vic. >> -- >> > > Another thought, Bob. Would he have been accepted as a sailor at 15? > No problem, would have been quite normal at that time. -- Graeme Wall This account not read, substitute trains for rail.

Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> Wrote in message: > Bob Campbell via <genbrit@rootsweb.com> Wrote in message: >> I have just received via mail a record stating that at the age of 14/15 an >> ancestor George Lake PICKERING "ran away to sea" in 1823. >> My question being, are there any records online, Royal Navy or merchant >> seaman crew lists from this period? >> 5 years later in 1828 George Lake PICKERING was back in London getting >> married and remained in London/Surrey for the remainder of his life. >> >> Cheers from >> Bob in Brisbane >> >> > > Sounds as likely as one of mine, Bob. He is supposed to have > taken a dislike > to his stepfather, fired a gun at him, then ran away to sea and > came back a captain. > the truth is that his father was a captain. The son was a > merchant who married > then emigrated to South Australia in the usual way. > > But you have a "record."How believable is it? > > Doug in Bendigo, Vic. > -- > Another thought, Bob. Would he have been accepted as a sailor at 15? Doug. --

On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 08:30:40 +1100 (GMT+11:00), Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote: >Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> Wrote in message: >> Bob Campbell via <genbrit@rootsweb.com> Wrote in message: >>> I have just received via mail a record stating that at the age of 14/15 an >>> ancestor George Lake PICKERING "ran away to sea" in 1823. >>> My question being, are there any records online, Royal Navy or merchant >>> seaman crew lists from this period? >>> 5 years later in 1828 George Lake PICKERING was back in London getting >>> married and remained in London/Surrey for the remainder of his life. >>> >>> Cheers from >>> Bob in Brisbane >>> >>> >> >> Sounds as likely as one of mine, Bob. He is supposed to have >> taken a dislike >> to his stepfather, fired a gun at him, then ran away to sea and >> came back a captain. >> the truth is that his father was a captain. The son was a >> merchant who married >> then emigrated to South Australia in the usual way. >> >> But you have a "record."How believable is it? >> >> Doug in Bendigo, Vic. >> -- >> > >Another thought, Bob. Would he have been accepted as a sailor at 15? > If he wasn't then in 1823 it would probably have been sufficient to turn up the next day and state whatever age they wanted to hear.

On 2015-11-07 14:57:00 +0000, Iain Archer said: > Tickettyboo <tickettyboo@mail2oops.com> wrote on Fri, 6 Nov 2015 at 19:34:01: > >> Close to the end of Sept, but not close enough to be 'certain'. Could >> anyone advise if/ how I would find out the dates the forms had to be >> returned to ensure inclusion in the 1939/40 electoral register? >> >> > Some extracts from > <http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/findhelprestype/offpubs/electreg/parliamentary/ > > parliamentaryconstituencies.pdf> (3.3MB): > > "Before 1948 residential qualification not only required that voters > live in the constituency in which they voted but that they should have > done so for a qualifying period. This was twelve months before 1918, > six months between then and 1926, and three months between 1927 and > 1948 and was computed backwards from the qualifying date. It was not > necessary to have lived at the same address for the qualifying period, > only that one had lived in the same borough or county (London being > treated as a single borough for the purpose) or in an adjacent one." > ... > "From 1927 to 1939 the register, once again annual, came into force on > 15 October (brought forward to 1 May in 1929 and deferred to 15 > November in 1939)." > ... > "In England and Wales the qualifying date was 31 July until 1878 and 15 > July from 1879 until 1914. From 1918 it was 15 January for the Spring > register while they lasted and 15 July for the Autumn or annual > registers until 1928. It was 1 December 1928 for the 1929 register and > 1 June for the 1930-39 and 1945-49 registers. The qualifying date for > the May 1945 register was 1 January and for the March 1946 one was the > preceding 1 December. From 1950 to 1954 it was the previous 20 November > and from 1955 to 2000 the previous 10 October, after which it became 15 > October from 2001." Many thanks ! That is just what I wanted, but failed to find. -- Tickettyboo

Tickettyboo <tickettyboo@mail2oops.com> wrote on Fri, 6 Nov 2015 at 19:34:01: >Close to the end of Sept, but not close enough to be 'certain'. Could >anyone advise if/ how I would find out the dates the forms had to be >returned to ensure inclusion in the 1939/40 electoral register? > > Some extracts from <http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/findhelprestype/offpubs/electreg/parliamentary/ parliamentaryconstituencies.pdf> (3.3MB): "Before 1948 residential qualification not only required that voters live in the constituency in which they voted but that they should have done so for a qualifying period. This was twelve months before 1918, six months between then and 1926, and three months between 1927 and 1948 and was computed backwards from the qualifying date. It was not necessary to have lived at the same address for the qualifying period, only that one had lived in the same borough or county (London being treated as a single borough for the purpose) or in an adjacent one." ... "From 1927 to 1939 the register, once again annual, came into force on 15 October (brought forward to 1 May in 1929 and deferred to 15 November in 1939)." ... "In England and Wales the qualifying date was 31 July until 1878 and 15 July from 1879 until 1914. From 1918 it was 15 January for the Spring register while they lasted and 15 July for the Autumn or annual registers until 1928. It was 1 December 1928 for the 1929 register and 1 June for the 1930-39 and 1945-49 registers. The qualifying date for the May 1945 register was 1 January and for the March 1946 one was the preceding 1 December. From 1950 to 1954 it was the previous 20 November and from 1955 to 2000 the previous 10 October, after which it became 15 October from 2001." -- Iain Archer

On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 14:50:46 +0000, Wendy Archer via <genbrit@rootsweb.com> wrote: >Forwarded from the Archivists' list with Liz's permission. Thanks for that. -- Steve Hayes Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/ http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

I have a family who lost 3 members in a bombing raid in Nov 1940. I am trying to find out if they would have been at the same address in Sept 1939 when the ID register was compiled. Street is just about totally missing from the 1939 register. I have checked names that were in the 1938 directory and 9 of the people were still in the same house in Nov 1940 and were killed in the raid - I have checked against civilian war dead records and can verify that. None of these people come up in the FMP database. I've reported it but its a similar scenario to missing streets when they released the 1911 census and 'that' took 18 months for them to rectify it, so holding breath not an option. The local archives in Liverpool have kindly checked the electoral registers for me and tell me "The name Wilson does not appear in the entry for 28 Spofforth Road in 1937/38 or  1938/39.  However, in the electoral register for 1939/40, the names given are : Mary Wilson Mary Wilson Jnr Jessie Wilson" They also tell me that a note at the start of the 1939/1940 Register says it is in force from 13th Oct 1939 and the Registrar's signature is dated 15th Oct 1939, but no precise qualification date for inclusion in the register. Close to the end of Sept, but not close enough to be 'certain'. Could anyone advise if/ how I would find out the dates the forms had to be returned to ensure inclusion in the 1939/40 electoral register? -- Tickettyboo

Forwarded from the Archivists' list with Liz's permission. Wendy -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Somerset's First World War History Goes Online Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 11:15:47 +0000 From: Liz Grant <liz_grant12@HOTMAIL.COM> Reply-To: Liz Grant <liz_grant12@HOTMAIL.COM> To: ARCHIVES-NRA@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Somerset’s First World War History Goes Online A major project to create indexes of First World War sources for Somerset has just been completed. The names of thousands of Somerset people who served in the war are now searchable online, thanks to volunteers and archivists who worked together as part of the Somerset Remembers Project. Somerset Remembers was funded by the Heritage Lottery Fund, and other generous funders, to mark the centenary of the First World War. People who want to research their First World War ancestors can now view complete transcripts of some material, as well as indexes to others. The sources are part of the rich archives held at the Somerset Heritage Centre in Taunton. Liz Grant, an archivist at the Heritage Centre, said: “The records tell a fascinating story of Somerset people who served in the First World War. In many cases these documents are the only record of their experiences.” The indexes include the muster roll and casualty list of the 1st Battalion the Somerset Light Infantry, the casualty list of the North Somerset Yeomanry, and a record of the war service of men and women from the Borough of Taunton. More than 50 volunteers were involved in archival research for Somerset Remembers. The project was led by the South West Heritage Trust. To view the indexes, go to the Somerset Remembers website at http://www.somersetremembers.com/research.ashx Liz Grant Archivist 01823 278805 Email: somersetarchives@swheritage.org.uk <mailto:somersetarchives@swheritage.org.uk> www.swheritage.org.uk <http://www.swheritage.org.uk/> *Somerset Archives and Local Studies* Somerset Heritage Centre Brunel Way Norton Fitzwarren Taunton Somerset TA2 6SF