On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 14:12:34 -0000 "Gordon" <gordonwb@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > Looks like a case of the name being spelt as it is pronounced which > was common some 150-200 years ago before place name spellings were > standardised and everyone knew the spelling. > Also it often happens that the spelling is nothing like the > pronunciation which is quite common in Suffolk and Norfolk and can > also be found throughout the UK. Two Norfolk examples are Wymondham > pronounced Windham and Happisburgh pronounced Haisburgh. Caused me a bit of confusion 40+ years ago when I was chatting to an 80-odd year old farmworker in Needham Market, Suffolk, who said he'd been on a nice day trip to Claydon. Considering that was in walking distance, I asked him to repeat the name and then, after getting no nearer, asked him to spell it. "C-L-A-C-T-O-N, Claydon", he said. My old home town of Rushden in Northants was pronounced "Rizdin" before WWII. I see this school has recently adopted the old spelling for the town; I'm pretty sure that it didn't go by that name about a century ago when my mother attended it. ;-) https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Risdene+Academy/@52.2891487,-0.5898077,3a,75y,26.52h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFKhFspbKGXGS5zxXLt803w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x74e885599185d6f9!6m1!1e1 -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. [Retd meteorologist/programmer] http://www.scarlet-jade.com/ I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. Posted with Claws: http://www.claws-mail.org/

On 01/01/2016 4:54 PM, Athel Cornish-Bowden via wrote: > Many of my forebears were clergy of the Church of England. In principle > the printed edition of Crockfords goes back to 1858, but the web site > only talks about searches going back to 1968. The latter date is too > recent to be any use to me, but I might be inclined to register if it > will get me to earlier information. Registration is free, but on the > whole I don't register for sites that I'm not going to use (even highly > respectable ones like Crockfords). Does anyone have experience of their > site, and know it it's useful for searching for information about > clergymen in the 19th century? > ArchiveCD books have some Crockfords and Clergy Lists available as CDs for purchase http://www.archivecdbooks.ie/ Ancestry has some early Crockfords on line. If you are near a large reference library (Guildhall, Birmingham. Manchester) these have large runs - use worldcat to fing in library near you https://www.worldcat.org/search?q=crockfords+clerical+directory&qt=results_page Regards John Henley

Many of my forebears were clergy of the Church of England. In principle the printed edition of Crockfords goes back to 1858, but the web site only talks about searches going back to 1968. The latter date is too recent to be any use to me, but I might be inclined to register if it will get me to earlier information. Registration is free, but on the whole I don't register for sites that I'm not going to use (even highly respectable ones like Crockfords). Does anyone have experience of their site, and know it it's useful for searching for information about clergymen in the 19th century? -- athel

"Athel Cornish-Bowden" <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote in message news:denpanF31rbU1@mid.individual.net... Athel An alternative, if you have not already found it, is http://db.theclergydatabase.org.uk/index.html which I have used for early 19th century clergymen. Stephen

On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 10:46:43 +0100, "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> wrote: >Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote on 01 Jan 2016 in >soc.genealogy.britain: > >> I received a family tree that shows someone as bei8ng born in >> Leystone, Suffolk, England. >> >> Has anyone heard of such a place? >> >> I think it is probably a typo for Leytonstone, Essex, but thought I'd >> better ask. > >Leystone = Leiston > >Leiston is a town in eastern Suffolk, England. It is situated near >Saxmundham and Aldeburgh, about 2 miles (3.2 km) from the North Sea coast >and is 21 miles (34 km) northeast of Ipswich and 90 miles (140 km) northeast >from London. Thanks! -- Steve Hayes Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/ http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/

I have "inherited" the UK-MILITARY list at RootsWeb, which has been dormant for a year or so. It has several hundred subscribers, but I would like to build up a strong core of potential "answerers". If anyone would like to come on board, please do subscribe - you'll be warmly welcomed! http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Military:_UK/UK-MILITARY.html Wendy

"Evertjan." wrote in message news:XnsA5826DA573409eejj99@194.109.6.166... >Leystone = Leiston > >Leiston is a town in eastern Suffolk, England. It is situated near >Saxmundham and Aldeburgh, about 2 miles (3.2 km) from the North Sea coast >and is 21 miles (34 km) northeast of Ipswich and 90 miles (140 km) >northeast >from London. > ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leiston> > >[..] The 14th century remains of Leiston Abbey lie northwest of the town. > >written as: Leystone Abbey. > Looks like a case of the name being spelt as it is pronounced which was common some 150-200 years ago before place name spellings were standardised and everyone knew the spelling. Also it often happens that the spelling is nothing like the pronunciation which is quite common in Suffolk and Norfolk and can also be found throughout the UK. Two Norfolk examples are Wymondham pronounced Windham and Happisburgh pronounced Haisburgh. Occasionally the pronunciation spelling became the standard norm over the original spelling of the name. When ancestors came from small hamlets, villages or towns this is something which often occurs with placenames when details were recorded by someone who was not a local. The fun really starts when this occurs with your ancestors surnames and the spelling changes with the change in parish priest who was usually the only person who could write at that time. It gets "better" if the priest was hard of hearing too. I have a case where you would not believe the range of surname variations, some suggest a deaf priest. The fun of Genealogy!!!! Gordon

I received a family tree that shows someone as bei8ng born in Leystone, Suffolk, England. Has anyone heard of such a place? I think it is probably a typo for Leytonstone, Essex, but thought I'd better ask. -- Steve Hayes Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/ http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/

Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote on 01 Jan 2016 in soc.genealogy.britain: > I received a family tree that shows someone as bei8ng born in > Leystone, Suffolk, England. > > Has anyone heard of such a place? > > I think it is probably a typo for Leytonstone, Essex, but thought I'd > better ask. Leystone = Leiston Leiston is a town in eastern Suffolk, England. It is situated near Saxmundham and Aldeburgh, about 2 miles (3.2 km) from the North Sea coast and is 21 miles (34 km) northeast of Ipswich and 90 miles (140 km) northeast from London. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leiston> [..] The 14th century remains of Leiston Abbey lie northwest of the town. written as: Leystone Abbey. <https://books.google.nl/books?id=zZIFAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA70&lpg=PA70> <http://www.mapsandantiqueprints.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/p-5568-1902- 1976.jpg> <http://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/archives/view/greylit/details.cfm?id= 6013&det=y> -- Evertjan. The Netherlands. (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

Hello Athel, Ancestry.co.uk has several volumes of Crockfords. They are 1868; 1874; 1885; 1898; 1908; and 1932 and so might be of use to you. I found them easy to use and very helpful when tracing down previous incumbents of the local parish church. Unfortunately I found Crockfords itself unhelpful when I got in touch with them about what I needed. [This was before I discovered the Ancestry cache] You may be able to register for free but my remembrance is that you need to pay to get any information. [This was a few years ago]. In the clergy data base, as noted by Stephen Mawson I found a good source of information. The staff when contacted about the records were very helpful. Good hunting Helenor Jones

"Steve Hayes" <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote in message news:oghc8b1p9eu27vd3hnpal55bfkodc2gfo5@4ax.com... >I received a family tree that shows someone as bei8ng born in > Leystone, Suffolk, England. > > Has anyone heard of such a place? Probably Leiston. Steven --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

> Any help with the occupation of William Todd, 3rd person in household 28, would be appreciated: > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61801163/LINRG9_2392_2393-0424.jpg > > I can see "Boy" but the first word, beginning with "F" evades me. The father is a Shepherd so am wondering if it is something agricultural or sheep related. farm boy. - he'll be lucky if he follows father as a shepherd, since they were among the more skilled ag labs, with some autonomy EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society

On 30/12/2015 18:02, stainless wrote: > On Wednesday, 30 December 2015 15:01:46 UTC, Graeme Wall wrote: > >> >> Farm boy? >> >> >> -- >> Graeme Wall >> This account not read. > > Strange thing is after I read your reply, I could see "Farm" clearly. Think I got fooled by the extra line after the "F" and somehow deciphering a couple of e's towards the end. > I've been caught by that line after F and T before. -- Graeme Wall This account not read.

On 30/12/2015 14:38, stainless wrote: > Any help with the occupation of William Todd, 3rd person in household 28, would be appreciated: > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61801163/LINRG9_2392_2393-0424.jpg > > I can see "Boy" but the first word, beginning with "F" evades me. The father is a Shepherd so am wondering if it is something agricultural or sheep related. > Farm boy? -- Graeme Wall This account not read.

On 30/12/2015 14:38, stainless wrote: > Any help with the occupation of William Todd, 3rd person in household 28, would be appreciated: > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61801163/LINRG9_2392_2393-0424.jpg > > I can see "Boy" but the first word, beginning with "F" evades me. The father is a Shepherd so am wondering if it is something agricultural or sheep related. > > Cheers > > Mark Wingfield > Farm Boy

On Wednesday, 30 December 2015 15:01:46 UTC, Graeme Wall wrote: > > Farm boy? > > > -- > Graeme Wall > This account not read. Strange thing is after I read your reply, I could see "Farm" clearly. Think I got fooled by the extra line after the "F" and somehow deciphering a couple of e's towards the end. Cheers

Any help with the occupation of William Todd, 3rd person in household 28, would be appreciated: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61801163/LINRG9_2392_2393-0424.jpg I can see "Boy" but the first word, beginning with "F" evades me. The father is a Shepherd so am wondering if it is something agricultural or sheep related. Cheers Mark Wingfield

On 23/12/15 09:00, Trevor Rix via wrote: > The London Generations website has lists showing which parish is in > which borough. > > https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/family-history/Pages/London-Generations.aspx Yes, I should have checked. It's listed on plenty of sites, and at least three books on my bookshelves. In this case, because I frequently walk past the church, I assumed I knew which borough it was in. Silly really. Richard

Forwarded with Lin's permission. Wendy -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [YORKSGEN] Dictionary of Yorkshire Surnames Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 15:44:08 +0000 From: Lin via <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> To: YORKSGEN <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Huddersfield historian Dr George Redmonds has published a book "Dictionary of Yorkshire Surnames'. The book which costs £49.50 represents a lifetime of research More information about it here: http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/yorkshire-surnames-you-brook-haigh-10635226 Thanks go to Judith Varley for letting us know about the book. Lin Duke

The London Generations website has lists showing which parish is in which borough. https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/family-history/Pages/London-Generations.aspx Trevor Rix > Does anyone know whether the project to digitise the parish registers in > the London Metropolitan Archives and put them on Ancestry.com is still > continuing? Or should I assume that if a parish isn't currently on > Ancestry.com (in this case St Andrew Holborn) that it won't now be done > in the foreseeable future?