I accidentally sent for the same death cert twice. Anna Maria Bonner died 3rd Feb 1849. The certs that came, though, were different, though both for same address. One, (handwritten) gives her as age 70, widow of an officer in the army. Death "natural sudden", informant the coroner, registered 15th Feb. The other (type) gives her as 71, widow of Francis Bonner, gentleman, "apoplexy, certified", informant Mary Elliott, present at death, registered 4th Feb. I guess a cert was mistakenly issued, based only on Mary Elliott's information. And then there was a rethink, followed by an inquest. Then a second cert was issued but the first not cancelled(?) -- Phil C.

On May 22, 7:47 pm, singhals <singh...@erols.com> wrote: > I figure if anyone knows, it'll be someone here, so ... > > Was naturalization even a possibility in 1750?  Or earlier? >   As in, say the French Huguenots who came to > England/Ireland after the Edict -- while I can see that most > wouldn't have done it, WAS it possible for them to cease > being French and become British? > > If so, can you point me to a discussion of the hows of that? > > Then, extrapolating, the Germans who came into the (current) > USA and signed the Oath of Allegiance.  Could they become > British citizens, and if so, how?  I know about the > automatic US Citizenship at (pick your date), it's what we > call the Colonial period (1603-say 1776) under discussion. > > 'bliged! > > Cheryl http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/parliamentary-archives/archives-highlights/familyhistory/sources/naturalisation/ http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/naturalisation.htm Peter Haizelden Genealogist and Family Historian www.haizelden.co.uk

On 22/05/2013 19:02, gepewiss@gmail.com wrote: > Hello, I am looking for Jacob and Babette Wiss (Wyss,Weiss, Weisz) > (born about 1809 and 1811)In the period 1817 - 1820 they left > Holland, and went probably to England. > > Who can help me please? > > Peter Wiss, Holland gepewiss@gmail.com Why do you think they went to England? There's no suitable Babette (any surname) in the 1841-1851 census.

On Monday, January 11, 1999 9:00:00 PM UTC+13, Martin Judkins wrote: > Thomas Payne Judkins from Towcester, NTH, wrote a journey log of his voyage to NZ in 1874 on the SS Assaye. It is well observed, witty, and poignant at times and provides a fascinating insight into life onboard an emigrant's ship during the 5 month crossing - 2 months more than normal. I am very grateful to Don Judkins for sending me a copy.I have posted it on my web page at http://www.judkins.demon.co.uk although I can email copies if you have no Web access and a copy is lodged with Northants Record Office.The following individuals are mentioned:Captain McRitchie Mr. MacBourne, the Constable Charles Greaves, an Irishman from Dublin, arrested and put in irons Mr. Faulkner who had 2 rabbits stolen Benjamin Coburn, a brickmaker from Hampshire Mrs Coburn, miscarried and diedMrs. Harper, miscarried A daughter born to Mrs BurtHannah Maria Conan, 6 yrs, died Richard Walker, 7 mnths, diedKate Sands, 6 wks, died Arthur Deans, 8 mnths, diedAnne Drinkwell, 3 mnths, died Henrietta Hunt, 6 mnths, diedEdward Halcock, 10 mnths, died William Charles Purcell, a boy, died Mrs. Drusilla Ackroid "ungodly and profane" died "cursing and blaspheming"and don't miss the scandalous behaviour of the "single women"!If you enjoy social history then please have a read.-- Martin 'researching' JUDKINS (Sheffield,YKS,UK aft1850; Walgrave,NTH bef1850), SWAIN (Caddington,Luton,BDF bef1860) Hi Martin, Don Judkins just coming back to you. I have sent the diary a number of times to interested people. The link to judkins.demon.co.uk doesn't seem to be working. has it changed? We are going on Europe trip this year but unfortunately not heading to Uk where it would have been good to catch up with you. All the best Don Judkins

I figure if anyone knows, it'll be someone here, so ... Was naturalization even a possibility in 1750? Or earlier? As in, say the French Huguenots who came to England/Ireland after the Edict -- while I can see that most wouldn't have done it, WAS it possible for them to cease being French and become British? If so, can you point me to a discussion of the hows of that? Then, extrapolating, the Germans who came into the (current) USA and signed the Oath of Allegiance. Could they become British citizens, and if so, how? I know about the automatic US Citizenship at (pick your date), it's what we call the Colonial period (1603-say 1776) under discussion. 'bliged! Cheryl

Veronica I Barr wrote: > In an old family writing box there's a note of Mary Jane GEAREY's O(ld) > A(ge) Pension No. the adhesive slip of paper is dated Nov 6th, 1927. On > another slip of paper there's Mary Jane's and James John's (GEAREY) > P.O.S.B.B. numbers (Post Office Savings Bank Book). > > > > Are there any family members out there? I know they are my great aunt and > uncle. Don't know whether they are both unmarried or Mary is married to > James. Has anyone a clue where I can find their death dates? James was > born in 1868 - ten years before my grandmother (Ada Florence). > > > > Thank you for your time. Deaths Jun 1936 Gearey James J 68 Camberwell 1d 628 Deaths Jun 1939 Gearey Mary J 78 Bermondsey 1d 88 -- Anne Chambers South Australia anne dot chambers at bigpond dot com

Hello, I am looking for Jacob and Babette Wiss (Wyss,Weiss, Weisz) (born about 1809 and 1811)In the period 1817 - 1820 they left Holland, and went probably to England. Who can help me please? Peter Wiss, Holland gepewiss@gmail.com

On Thu, 16 May 2013 15:20:30 -0700, "Veronica I Barr" <mordensurrey@gmail.com> wrote: >In an old family writing box there's a note of Mary Jane GEAREY's O(ld) >A(ge) Pension No. the adhesive slip of paper is dated Nov 6th, 1927. On >another slip of paper there's Mary Jane's and James John's (GEAREY) >P.O.S.B.B. numbers (Post Office Savings Bank Book). > >Are there any family members out there? I know they are my great aunt and >uncle. Don't know whether they are both unmarried or Mary is married to >James. Has anyone a clue where I can find their death dates? James was >born in 1868 - ten years before my grandmother (Ada Florence). > >Thank you for your time. As to your question "Are there any family members out there" then I may well be a distant relative. My mother's maiden surname is Geary. Her grandfather was Edmund (aka Edward Riach) Geary born at Walworth in 1857 and his Lambeth based ancestry is outlived on my Web page at: http://members.iinet.net.au/~rgkje/jg.html If you notice a connection or I can assist with more detail please write. Regards Bob

On Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:00:40 PM UTC+1, Mlou...@aol.com wrote: > >I don't know if it is relevant but 'buck' is a U.S. and Canadian word  for > >'sawhorse', short for 'sawbuck'. > > Also, a "buckboard" which was a horsedrawn wagon used in the 1800s and maybe later. > > mary lou Old post but for anyone researching, I've come across this and it is definitely a BRICKMAKER!

On the 1911 census image it is 4 children the red line covers over the 4 making it look like 11 at first glance. Bill "Renia" <renia@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:knbqhb$93m$1@speranza.aioe.org... > > > On 18/05/2013 16:23, Geoff Pearson wrote: >> Any one done a tree for our Nigel? The media say he has Huguenot >> ancestors but Ancestry also shows he has German gg grandparents from >> Frankfurt named Schrod - and they seem to be the origin of his >> stockbroking. They were born around 1840 and judging by the names we >> might expect they moved because of Jewish origins and problems there >> from. So a fairly cosmopolitan ancestry - out of line with his >> immigration policies. Of course I may have the wrong strand, in which >> case apologies to whomsoever feels they are due but this looks like the >> right family. Perhaps his current German wife can check? > > > His great-grandfather was Daniel Savory Farage who married Lucy Susannah > Moynihan in 1883 in the Islington district. They had 11 children, all > still living in 1911, by which time, Lucy was a widow, so her marital > details were crossed out. > > Daniel Savory Farage was born in 1845 in the Croydon area, son of Edward > Farage and Sarah Savory, who married at Newington on 30th April, 1840. > Edward was a police constable and was a police witness in this Old Bailey > case of 1838: > http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?path=sessionsPapers%2F18380101.xml > > Edward does not appear on the 1841 census with his wife, Sarah, who was > then living with her mother, Martha Savory, and her baby son, William. But > they were in other censuses together, where Edward was stated to be born > in Mitcham or Croydon around 1813. > > Edward Feridge was baptised 12th December 1813 at Mitcham, Surrey, son of > Edward Feridge and Maria. In 1841, Edward Farage age 61, and Maria were > living in Carshalton where Edward was a brickmaker. Edward Ferridge > married Maria Clark at Saint John The Baptist, Croydon, Surrey on 1st > April 1804. > > Edward Ferridge was baptised in Mitcham, Surrey 28th November 1779, son of > Daniel. > > So it looks like the surname Farage devolved from Ferridge. If there are > any Huguenot ancestors, they may be through the Savory family. > > Harry Farage or Farrage was son of Daniel Savory Farage, and he married > Gladys Schrod in Bromley in 1927. In 1911, he was a stockbroker's clerk. > > > > >

"Terry Wells" <terrywells@csi.com> wrote in message news:10pmu4gfsgp4k.tcddapnnncvm$.dlg@40tude.net... > On Mon, 20 May 2013 20:24:51 -0400, S Viemeister wrote: > >> On 5/20/2013 3:07 PM, mvernonconnolly@yahoo.co.uk wrote: >>> (Herbert George) Rodrigo Moynihan CBE (1910-1990), born in Tenerife as >>> Renia says. Elder son of Herbert James Moynihan (1885-1941), fruit >>> broker, who was 2nd son of George William Moynihan (1861-1919), surgical >>> instrument maker, whose elder sister was Lucy Susannah (1855-1932), >>> great-grandmother of Nigel Farage, as above. >>> >>> They were both children of Thomas Moynihan (c.1834-1864), lithographic >>> printer, by his wife Grace Hannah Stephenson (1833-1912), daughter of >>> Frederick Stephenson (b.1805), letter press printer, and his wife >>> Susannah Saunders. Thomas was son of Daniel Moynihan (c.1790-1844) and >>> his wife Margaret (c.1799/1802-1874), both of whom were born in Ireland >>> but came to England by 1821. >>> >> I wonder if there's any connection with the late US Senator Daniel >> Patrick Moynihan? > > I was wondering if there was any connection with Colin Moynihan, 4th Baron > Moynihan, British Olympic coxswain and Conservative politician, who I met > on a few occasions when he was at the Department of Energy in the early > 90s. > > -- > > Terry Wells We are not supposed to do family history by surmising on links between people with the same, not uncommon, name. Now where would we be if it had been Smith? On the other hand, I reckon everyone called Shacklady is related - I have some in my tree and all the Shackladys in the south east of England seem to be descended from one man. There is another population near Liverpool and I have often wondered how the SE chap escaped. (some of those in the SE are escapees more recently from Liverpool).

On Mon, 20 May 2013 20:24:51 -0400, S Viemeister wrote: > On 5/20/2013 3:07 PM, mvernonconnolly@yahoo.co.uk wrote: >> (Herbert George) Rodrigo Moynihan CBE (1910-1990), born in Tenerife as Renia says. Elder son of Herbert James Moynihan (1885-1941), fruit broker, who was 2nd son of George William Moynihan (1861-1919), surgical instrument maker, whose elder sister was Lucy Susannah (1855-1932), great-grandmother of Nigel Farage, as above. >> >> They were both children of Thomas Moynihan (c.1834-1864), lithographic printer, by his wife Grace Hannah Stephenson (1833-1912), daughter of Frederick Stephenson (b.1805), letter press printer, and his wife Susannah Saunders. Thomas was son of Daniel Moynihan (c.1790-1844) and his wife Margaret (c.1799/1802-1874), both of whom were born in Ireland but came to England by 1821. >> > I wonder if there's any connection with the late US Senator Daniel > Patrick Moynihan? I was wondering if there was any connection with Colin Moynihan, 4th Baron Moynihan, British Olympic coxswain and Conservative politician, who I met on a few occasions when he was at the Department of Energy in the early 90s. -- Terry Wells

<mvernonconnolly@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:04c7b596-5e2e-4cbe-8980-109c55de7035@googlegroups.com... > (Herbert George) Rodrigo Moynihan CBE (1910-1990), born in Tenerife as > Renia says. Elder son of Herbert James Moynihan (1885-1941), fruit broker, > who was 2nd son of George William Moynihan (1861-1919), surgical > instrument maker, whose elder sister was Lucy Susannah (1855-1932), > great-grandmother of Nigel Farage, as above. > > They were both children of Thomas Moynihan (c.1834-1864), lithographic > printer, by his wife Grace Hannah Stephenson (1833-1912), daughter of > Frederick Stephenson (b.1805), letter press printer, and his wife Susannah > Saunders. Thomas was son of Daniel Moynihan (c.1790-1844) and his wife > Margaret (c.1799/1802-1874), both of whom were born in Ireland but came to > England by 1821. > > -Matthew thank you - quite a family.

Il giorno martedì 21 maggio 2013 12:54:59 UTC+3, Terry Wells ha scritto: > On Mon, 20 May 2013 20:24:51 -0400, S Viemeister wrote: > > > > > On 5/20/2013 3:07 PM, I wrote: > > >> (Herbert George) Rodrigo Moynihan CBE (1910-1990), born in Tenerife as Renia says. Elder son of Herbert James Moynihan (1885-1941), fruit broker, who was 2nd son of George William Moynihan (1861-1919), surgical instrument maker, whose elder sister was Lucy Susannah (1855-1932), great-grandmother of Nigel Farage, as above. > > >> > > >> They were both children of Thomas Moynihan (c.1834-1864), lithographic printer, by his wife Grace Hannah Stephenson (1833-1912), daughter of Frederick Stephenson (b.1805), letter press printer, and his wife Susannah Saunders. Thomas was son of Daniel Moynihan (c.1790-1844) and his wife Margaret (c.1799/1802-1874), both of whom were born in Ireland but came to England by 1821. > > >> > > > I wonder if there's any connection with the late US Senator Daniel > > > Patrick Moynihan? > > > > I was wondering if there was any connection with Colin Moynihan, 4th Baron > > Moynihan, British Olympic coxswain and Conservative politician, who I met > > on a few occasions when he was at the Department of Energy in the early > > 90s. > > > > -- > > > > Terry Wells The family lines don't converge in the last couple of centuries, but they may of course have a common ancestor in Ireland before that point.

On 5/20/2013 3:07 PM, mvernonconnolly@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > (Herbert George) Rodrigo Moynihan CBE (1910-1990), born in Tenerife as Renia says. Elder son of Herbert James Moynihan (1885-1941), fruit broker, who was 2nd son of George William Moynihan (1861-1919), surgical instrument maker, whose elder sister was Lucy Susannah (1855-1932), great-grandmother of Nigel Farage, as above. > > They were both children of Thomas Moynihan (c.1834-1864), lithographic printer, by his wife Grace Hannah Stephenson (1833-1912), daughter of Frederick Stephenson (b.1805), letter press printer, and his wife Susannah Saunders. Thomas was son of Daniel Moynihan (c.1790-1844) and his wife Margaret (c.1799/1802-1874), both of whom were born in Ireland but came to England by 1821. > I wonder if there's any connection with the late US Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan?

In article <avma60FekksU1@mid.individual.net>, goddai01@hotmail.co.uk says... > > jakob.furst@gmail.com wrote: > > Looking for identity/parentage of a Rebecca Howard "of prince's street, Lancaster", daughter of an unknown Howard and his wife Elizabeth. She married planter Richard Tuite who died in 1748 and later remarried John Carter, m.d. She was probably born in the second half of the 17th century. Her will is dated 1756 and then she was living in Prince's street, London. > > How contemporary is the record which says "of prince's street, > Lancaster". I'm struck by the coincidence of two streets of the same > name in places which start with the same letter. Streetmap.co.uk's > gazetteer doesn't have a modern Princes St, Lancaster. Could there be a > transcription error somewhere? I'm pretty sure after studying old maps of Lancaster that there never was a Prices's street there. "Lancaster" is often used for the County rather than the Town but I suggest you investigate Lancaster Gate in London for a possible Price's St. -- BobC ========== Change "null" to "news" in reply address.

On 20/05/2013 12:57, Renia wrote: > On 20/05/2013 11:47, Geoff Pearson wrote: >> >> <mvernonconnolly@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:6f753d6e-0efb-40c9-b546-4008d570aad9@googlegroups.com... >>> On Monday, May 20, 2013 3:25:13 AM UTC+3, Renia wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> His great-grandfather was Daniel Savory Farage who married Lucy >>>> Susannah >>>> >>>> Moynihan in 1883 in the Islington district. They had 11 children, all >>>> >>>> still living in 1911, by which time, Lucy was a widow, so her marital >>>> >>>> details were crossed out. >>> >>> Through this marriage Nigel Farage is related to artist Rodrigo >>> Moynihan (1910-1990); I researched the latter's ancestry a couple of >>> years ago for a member of the family, and was amused to find the >>> Farage link. >> >> So what was Rodrigo Moynihan's real name and place of birth - he doesn't >> show up in Ancestry or FreeBMD - unless I'm having a bad day? > > He was born in Tenerife! His parents, according to Wikifing, came to > London in 1918 and then went to Wisconsin. Rodrigo studied at Slade. According to his obituary in The Times, his parents were Herbert James Moynihan and Maria de la Puerta. He was born in 1910 and died in 1980.

On 20/05/2013 11:47, Geoff Pearson wrote: > > <mvernonconnolly@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:6f753d6e-0efb-40c9-b546-4008d570aad9@googlegroups.com... >> On Monday, May 20, 2013 3:25:13 AM UTC+3, Renia wrote: >>> >>> >>> His great-grandfather was Daniel Savory Farage who married Lucy Susannah >>> >>> Moynihan in 1883 in the Islington district. They had 11 children, all >>> >>> still living in 1911, by which time, Lucy was a widow, so her marital >>> >>> details were crossed out. >> >> Through this marriage Nigel Farage is related to artist Rodrigo >> Moynihan (1910-1990); I researched the latter's ancestry a couple of >> years ago for a member of the family, and was amused to find the >> Farage link. > > So what was Rodrigo Moynihan's real name and place of birth - he doesn't > show up in Ancestry or FreeBMD - unless I'm having a bad day? He was born in Tenerife! His parents, according to Wikifing, came to London in 1918 and then went to Wisconsin. Rodrigo studied at Slade.

(Herbert George) Rodrigo Moynihan CBE (1910-1990), born in Tenerife as Renia says. Elder son of Herbert James Moynihan (1885-1941), fruit broker, who was 2nd son of George William Moynihan (1861-1919), surgical instrument maker, whose elder sister was Lucy Susannah (1855-1932), great-grandmother of Nigel Farage, as above. They were both children of Thomas Moynihan (c.1834-1864), lithographic printer, by his wife Grace Hannah Stephenson (1833-1912), daughter of Frederick Stephenson (b.1805), letter press printer, and his wife Susannah Saunders. Thomas was son of Daniel Moynihan (c.1790-1844) and his wife Margaret (c.1799/1802-1874), both of whom were born in Ireland but came to England by 1821. -Matthew

<mvernonconnolly@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:6f753d6e-0efb-40c9-b546-4008d570aad9@googlegroups.com... > On Monday, May 20, 2013 3:25:13 AM UTC+3, Renia wrote: >> >> >> His great-grandfather was Daniel Savory Farage who married Lucy Susannah >> >> Moynihan in 1883 in the Islington district. They had 11 children, all >> >> still living in 1911, by which time, Lucy was a widow, so her marital >> >> details were crossed out. > > Through this marriage Nigel Farage is related to artist Rodrigo Moynihan > (1910-1990); I researched the latter's ancestry a couple of years ago for > a member of the family, and was amused to find the Farage link. So what was Rodrigo Moynihan's real name and place of birth - he doesn't show up in Ancestry or FreeBMD - unless I'm having a bad day? Geoff