On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 23:08:09 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.nospam> wrote: >FindMyPast have added current Electoral Rolls to their databases > > > >19 July 2013 > >findmypast.co.uk living relatives records Lost touch with family members >over the years? Finding your living relatives just got easier: now you >can search UK electoral rolls 2002-2013 and UK companies house directors >2002-2013 as part of a Britain Full & World subscription, instead of >needing separate PayAsYouGo credits! > > > >I started out by looking up myself and a couple of friends. > >They seem to have made a complete mess of Scottish entries > >My address in Fort William is correctly placed in Inverness-shire but >the it has > >Region - Tayside, Central and Fife > >Area - Perth > >I thought this might be because some has done a crude conversion from >postcode but only using the first two letters. > > > >A friend living near Stornoway has just the name of his house and this >(no town etc) > >District: Isle Of Lewis > >Region: Grampian, Highland And Islands > >Area: Hebrides > >County: Grampian, Highland And Islands > >Country: Scotland > > >The old county is Ross-shire and of course they are now Western Isles. > Not since 1997. They are now Na h-Eileanan an Iar and the council is Comhairle nan Eilean Siar :- http://www.cne-siar.gov.uk/ > >The dropdown menu has under 'County' 'Isle of Lewis' which does not find >him but it will find him with Grampian as the county. This cannot have >come from Postcode because the Western Isles has its own Postcode and >previously had a Paisley one. > > >I sent a message to FindMyPast but they say that they reply that the >data is from 192.com and ... > > >'The Electoral Registers are an exact copy of the records that have been >published by the by the Electoral Commission.' > Maybe instead they should use the official registers published by the EROs ? > >Is the rest of 192.com's data so poor? > Not just 192, various Westminster-controlled departments/organisations (e.g. the Met Office) still don't seem to be aware that the regions in Scotland were abolished in 1994 as demonstrated by e.g. issuing information for motorists and other travellers who using names that (except in/around Fife) don't appear on road signs any more.

FindMyPast have added current Electoral Rolls to their databases 19 July 2013 findmypast.co.uk living relatives records Lost touch with family members over the years? Finding your living relatives just got easier: now you can search UK electoral rolls 2002-2013 and UK companies house directors 2002-2013 as part of a Britain Full & World subscription, instead of needing separate PayAsYouGo credits! I started out by looking up myself and a couple of friends. They seem to have made a complete mess of Scottish entries My address in Fort William is correctly placed in Inverness-shire but the it has Region - Tayside, Central and Fife Area - Perth I thought this might be because some has done a crude conversion from postcode but only using the first two letters. A friend living near Stornoway has just the name of his house and this (no town etc) District: Isle Of Lewis Region: Grampian, Highland And Islands Area: Hebrides County: Grampian, Highland And Islands Country: Scotland The old county is Ross-shire and of course they are now Western Isles. The dropdown menu has under 'County' 'Isle of Lewis' which does not find him but it will find him with Grampian as the county. This cannot have come from Postcode because the Western Isles has its own Postcode and previously had a Paisley one. I sent a message to FindMyPast but they say that they reply that the data is from 192.com and ... 'The Electoral Registers are an exact copy of the records that have been published by the by the Electoral Commission.' Is the rest of 192.com's data so poor?

Hello,I realise this is very late in reply to your inquiry,but in searching for my Great Granddad ,i have found out about Clive Rivington. If you wish to investigate more this was sourced at The National Archives of South Africa(NASA) Hope this helps with your puzzle,regards Sandra Document 1 of 1 DEPOT TAB SOURCE SAC TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 195 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE H1873 PART 1 DESCRIPTION RECORD OF CONDUCT AND SERVICE OF CLIVE RIVINGTON, TIME EXPIRED. STARTING 19010603 ENDING 19060520

On 21/07/2013 19:40, Dexter Kenfield wrote: > William CAMFIELD, son of William and Alice, was christened 6 Sep 1674 in > Bletchingly, Surrey. His parents, Will. CAMFIELD and Alice MORIDEY, were > married 7 Dec 1673 in Bletchingly. > > William CANFIELD, son of John and Mary, was christened 25 May 1677 in > Godstone, Surrey. Says here he died in Northampton, Hampshire County, Massachusetts in 1707.. http://www.clingram.com/famhis/getperson.php?personID=I32892&tree=tree1 I haven't checked the source.

That's the guy I'm researching -- my sixth-great-grandfather. His death I know about. His birth is the mystery. Lots of mis-information about him is out there, based on guesses and prior research that turned out to be wrong. Including on my own personal Web site -- I speculated about a William born in Berkshire, but more recent research has shown he stayed in England. http://dekester.home.mindspring.com/huntbill.htm The "real" William enlisted in the army, was stationed in Ireland, was sent to New York in 1700, joined a mutiny, plead guilty, was pardoned and sent to his new unit in Albany, where he deserted soon thereafter. He went to Massachusetts, married, had two children, and died in 1707. The rest, as they say, is history. I've been working for several decades trying to run down his origin. The two from Surrey I mentioned in my initial post are the most likely candidates known at this time. I can't be certain it's either of them, but trying to run them down is the next logical step. Dexter On 7/23/2013 3:11 AM, CWatters wrote: > On 21/07/2013 19:40, Dexter Kenfield wrote: >> William CAMFIELD, son of William and Alice, was christened 6 Sep 1674 in >> Bletchingly, Surrey. His parents, Will. CAMFIELD and Alice MORIDEY, were >> married 7 Dec 1673 in Bletchingly. >> >> William CANFIELD, son of John and Mary, was christened 25 May 1677 in >> Godstone, Surrey. > > Says here he died in Northampton, Hampshire County, Massachusetts in 1707.. > > http://www.clingram.com/famhis/getperson.php?personID=I32892&tree=tree1 > > I haven't checked the source. > >

On Monday, June 4, 2012 10:25:04 AM UTC-5, roy.st...@btinternet.com wrote: > As a republican (though not a particularly virulent or obsessive one), I fell to musing over the > > weekend while watching the Jubilee pageant on the Thames (for the boats, not the royals) > > whether there are any living descendants of Oliver Cromwell, my historical hero who > > abolished the monarchy and led the execution party of Charles I, making Britain a republic, > > albeit for only a relatively short period. > > > > According to various websites, there are many. The following site > > > > http://hipweb.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/cromwellcollection/genealogy/heredis/info.htm > > > > says..... > > > > "There are many people alive today who are directly descended from Oliver Cromwell, via his > > son Henry and his daughters Bridget and Frances. Their descent has been thoroughly > > researched and reconstructed down to the mid Victorian period. Thus so long as you can > > trace your ancestry back as far as the 1860s, you should be able to see quite easily whether > > or not you lock into one of the proven lines of descent from Cromwell." > > > > I am aware for certain of only one, the Yorkshirewoman Katharine Worsley, the Duchess of > > Kent (and of course her children), who was born at Hovingham Hall, Hovingham, North > > Yorkshire, in 1933 . She is the 8x-great-granddaughter of Oliver Cromwell via one of his > > daughters, the aforementioned Frances. Ironic, is it not, that she is the Queen's first cousin, > > yet it was her ancestor who was responsible for the execution of HM's 9x-great-grandfather > > in 1649? I wonder if they ever discuss it over afternoon tea! > > > > Cromwell and his wife Elizabeth Bourchier had nine children of whom six survived to > > adulthood but only three produced descendants. > > > > I wonder whether we have any Cromwell descendants on this list??? Personally, I wish I were > > one but no such luck! > > > > > > -- > > Roy Stockdill > > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > > and that is not being talked about." > > OSCAR WILDE I'm a descendant of his line. Not sure if I'm direct, I think I came from one of his siblings, I need to check again (my family has the documentation.) I don't know why you would want to be his descendant, it's cool, but it doesn't really benefit me at all. ;)

On 7/21/2013 7:44 PM, Renia wrote: > > Why do you think he came from Sussex or Surrey? > > A good starter for the various parishes in England can be found here. It > will give you an idea just how many parishes there are in English counties. > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/ I don't think he necessarily came from there. My apologies if I gave you that impression. I've been working this problem (finding William's birthplace, date and parents) for over 30 years, so I do understand things pretty well. My initial post only gave a small amount of information, in order to focus on the immediate question. There's a lot more behind the scenes. The Southeast -- Surrey, Sussex and Kent -- had a lot of Canfields over that period of time. But so did Beds and Northants, and some other counties had a few as well. Still, in England overall it's a rather uncommon name. I've mapped them to look for possible patterns and hints of movement - some interesting results have already popped out. In fact, I have two possible candidates in Beds born in the 1650s. I think they are less likely to be "my" William, but I haven't ruled them out entirely. And it would be nice to tie my William to another Camfield, who was in America in the 1600s and was a founder of Newark, New Jersey. He was from Northants. I do think all the various Camfield/Canfield/Kenfield/Kentfield families were at least distantly related, and there are hints of lineage back to the 11th/12th Centuries, but that's a much larger project for the future. So far, I'm aware of nine William Canfields born in England in the right time frame. Only three have been definitely ruled out, and two others seem highly unlikely. I'm just focusing right now on the two in Surrey, because they seem the most likely candidates of the Williams I'm aware of. I know the available records are incomplete, so there may be other possible Williams as well, but I can only work with what's available. So I take one step at a time. I'm hoping my post will lead to additional information and sources I haven't yet found. Dexter

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 20:45:19 +0100, CWatters <colin.watters@NOturnersoakSPAM.plus.com> wrote: >On 20/07/2013 20:41, CWatters wrote: >> On 18/07/2013 09:49, Steve Hayes wrote: >> >>> So some time between 1861 and 1863, Mary Ann Crisp disaapears, and is >>> replaced >>> by Ann Williams. >>> >>> Did she die? Did she run away? Did her husband desert her? >> >> Ancestry/Freebmd has... >> >> England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 >> about Mary Ann Crisp >> Name: Mary Ann Crisp >> Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1862 >> Registration District: St George Hanover Square >> Inferred County: London >> Volume: 1a >> Page: 203 >> >> > >or perhaps.. > > >England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 >about Mary Ann Crisp >Name: Mary Ann Crisp >Date of Registration: >Oct-Nov-Dec 1862 >Registration District: Pancras >Inferred County: London >Volume: 1b >Page: 121 > >or > >England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 >about Mary Ann Crisp >Name: Mary Ann Crisp >Date of Registration: >Oct-Nov-Dec 1862 >Registration District: Camberwell >Inferred County: London >Volume: 1d >Page: 378 > And why would her death have been registered under her maiden name? Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1850 (>99%) CHENERY John Frederick St James 1 134 Crisp Mary Ann St. James West 1 134 Dash Henry St James West 1 134 -- Steve Hayes Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/ http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/

On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 04:33:32 +0200, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote: >On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 20:45:19 +0100, CWatters ><colin.watters@NOturnersoakSPAM.plus.com> wrote: > >>On 20/07/2013 20:41, CWatters wrote: >>> On 18/07/2013 09:49, Steve Hayes wrote: >>> >>>> So some time between 1861 and 1863, Mary Ann Crisp disaapears, and is >>>> replaced >>>> by Ann Williams. >>>> >>>> Did she die? Did she run away? Did her husband desert her? >>> >>> Ancestry/Freebmd has... >>> >>> England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 >>> about Mary Ann Crisp >>> Name: Mary Ann Crisp >>> Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1862 >>> Registration District: St George Hanover Square >>> Inferred County: London >>> Volume: 1a >>> Page: 203 >>> >>> >> >>or perhaps.. >> >> >>England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 >>about Mary Ann Crisp >>Name: Mary Ann Crisp >>Date of Registration: >>Oct-Nov-Dec 1862 >>Registration District: Pancras >>Inferred County: London >>Volume: 1b >>Page: 121 >> >>or >> >>England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 >>about Mary Ann Crisp >>Name: Mary Ann Crisp >>Date of Registration: >>Oct-Nov-Dec 1862 >>Registration District: Camberwell >>Inferred County: London >>Volume: 1d >>Page: 378 >> > >And why would her death have been registered under her maiden name? > You will sometimes get that with women who for various reasons have given up use of their married surname but (in England) not normally with widows or women still living with their husbands. >Surname First name(s) District Vol Page >Marriages Sep 1850 (>99%) >CHENERY John Frederick St James 1 134 >Crisp Mary Ann St. James West 1 134 >Dash Henry St James West 1 134

On 21/07/2013 19:40, Dexter Kenfield wrote: > William CAMFIELD, son of William and Alice, was christened 6 Sep 1674 in > Bletchingly, Surrey. His parents, Will. CAMFIELD and Alice MORIDEY, were > married 7 Dec 1673 in Bletchingly. > > William CANFIELD, son of John and Mary, was christened 25 May 1677 in > Godstone, Surrey. These families almost certainly are related. > > Also probably related was William CAMFIELD, son of Robert and Mary, who > was christened 27 Apr 1684 in Worth, Sussex. > > > What I would like to establish is whether these three all remained in > England. Or was one of them the William Kenfield (Kentfield, Kinfield, > Canfield, etc.) who joined the army, was in a regiment stationed in > Ireland after the Treaty of Ryswick in 1697, and was sent to New York in > 1700 to join an independent company there? > > This may sound familiar to those who have followed these groups for a > while. I know a lot about William, and the regiments stationed in > Ireland. But not his birth place, age or parentage. Was he one of these > three candidates? > > Any thoughts, ideas, leads or information? Why do you think he came from Sussex or Surrey? A good starter for the various parishes in England can be found here. It will give you an idea just how many parishes there are in English counties. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/

On 22/07/2013 01:40, Dexter Kenfield wrote: > > I have looked at the burial entries in parish registers that are > available to me on-line. That allowed me to eliminate two other > possible candidates, just as you suggest. But I haven't found > anything identifiable as relating to these people. > > One of the limitations, obviously, is that the records available to > me on-line are incomplete. I primarily use familysearch.org and > Ancestry.com, supplemented from time to time by various other > sources. A reminder that there are far more burial records which are NOT on the internet than are on the internet. The same applies to baptism and other records. Your ancestor's baptism may not even be online. You can only go from what you know to what you don't know. Guessing and "the name's the same" won't help you.

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On 7/21/2013 6:38 PM, Renia wrote: > On 22/07/2013 01:40, Dexter Kenfield wrote: > >> >> I have looked at the burial entries in parish registers that are >> available to me on-line. That allowed me to eliminate two other >> possible candidates, just as you suggest. But I haven't found >> anything identifiable as relating to these people. >> >> One of the limitations, obviously, is that the records available to >> me on-line are incomplete. I primarily use familysearch.org and >> Ancestry.com, supplemented from time to time by various other >> sources. > > A reminder that there are far more burial records which are NOT on the > internet than are on the internet. The same applies to baptism and other > records. Your ancestor's baptism may not even be online. You can only go > from what you know to what you don't know. Guessing and "the name's the > same" won't help you. Completely understood. I've had a researcher in London working on this for some time, as well. And if you've seen my prior posts about William and his voyage to New York, on a vessel chartered by the government called the LYON or LION OF DUBLIN or similar, you'll know that I also am very familiar with a wide range of off-line resources. I've been at this for a long time. But your reminder is something to always keep in mind. I hear that more Sussex/Surrey records may become available on-line soon, although I don't have all the details. But I know there is a lot more not available there, which is exactly why posting here can lead to more info. Maybe even records or other sources I've never even heard of. The resources available through groups like this often are hard to conceive of. Tracking people forward is always extra-difficult, and even when the name is rare, like Canfield, I know that mere name matches alone don't generally suffice. I have, in fact, been able to rule out some candidates by matching up various records, and I even have a possible marriage for one of these people, but not enough to match them up. Dexter

On 7/21/2013 3:18 PM, Daniel Morgan wrote: > On Sunday, July 21, 2013 2:40:52 PM UTC-4, Dexter Kenfield wrote: >> William CAMFIELD, son of William and Alice, was christened 6 Sep 1674 in >> >> Bletchingly, Surrey. His parents, Will. CAMFIELD and Alice MORIDEY, were >> >> married 7 Dec 1673 in Bletchingly. >> >> >> >> William CANFIELD, son of John and Mary, was christened 25 May 1677 in >> >> Godstone, Surrey. These families almost certainly are related. >> >> >> >> Also probably related was William CAMFIELD, son of Robert and Mary, who >> >> was christened 27 Apr 1684 in Worth, Sussex. >> >> >> >> >> >> What I would like to establish is whether these three all remained in >> >> England. Or was one of them the William Kenfield (Kentfield, Kinfield, >> >> Canfield, etc.) who joined the army, was in a regiment stationed in >> >> Ireland after the Treaty of Ryswick in 1697, and was sent to New York in >> >> 1700 to join an independent company there? >> >> >> >> This may sound familiar to those who have followed these groups for a >> >> while. I know a lot about William, and the regiments stationed in >> >> Ireland. But not his birth place, age or parentage. Was he one of these >> >> three candidates? >> >> >> >> Any thoughts, ideas, leads or information? >> >> >> >> Dexter Kenfield > > The first place I would look would be burial registers, to see if you can find any of them dying young. If you can eliminate one or two of them early, that will reduce the work of sorting out what happened to the one(s) left standing. > I have looked at the burial entries in parish registers that are available to me on-line. That allowed me to eliminate two other possible candidates, just as you suggest. But I haven't found anything identifiable as relating to these people. One of the limitations, obviously, is that the records available to me on-line are incomplete. I primarily use familysearch.org and Ancestry.com, supplemented from time to time by various other sources. Dexter

On 16/07/2013 11:24, Kiwi in Aus wrote: > > "Anne Chambers" <anne@privacy.net> wrote in message > news:b4kkftF31scU1@mid.individual.net... >> Anne Chambers wrote: >>> Kiwi in Aus wrote: >>>> Born abt 1877 in Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England >>>> married abt Sep 1908 Mutford, Suffolk, England >>>> Died 23 Jan 1952 Surrey South-Eastern, Surrey, England >>>> I can't find a birth for him on Ancestry or Free BMDs only census I >>>> can find him on is 1911 after he was >>>> married, I am after a birth and any census where he is with his >>>> parents >>>> Cheers Jenny >>>> I DON'T do Mornings!!!!! >>>> Photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/jen_in_brisbane/ >>>> Family Tree http://minerstree.tribalpages.com/ >>>> >>>> >>> The 1911 census shows him living with his parents >>> George Frederick Bugg 59 >>> Martha Milton Bugg 58 >>> Percival Ernest Leighton 34 >>> Beatrice Alice Leighton 31 >>> Mary Ann Cocksedge 21 >>> >>> Births Mar 1876 >>> Bugg Percival Ernest Bury St.E. 4a 565 >>> >>> Marriages Sep 1906 >>> HARVEY Beatrice Alice Mutford 4a 2167 >>> LEIGHTON Percival Ernest Mutford 4a 2167 >>> >>> Marriages Jun 1874 >>> Bugg George Frederick Bury St. E. 4a 731 >>> Jackaman Martha Milton Bury St. E. 4a 731 >>> >>> No idea why he changed his name - perhaps he found out that George >>> Bugg was not his father ? >>> >> 1881 census >> Class: RG11; Piece: 1842; Folio: 108; Page: 3; >> George F. Bugg 29 >> Martha M. Bugg 28 >> Frederick J. Bugg 6 >> Percival E. Bugg 5 >> Arthur R. Bugg 2 >> Herbert L. Bugg Emma Stocking 18 >> >> 1891 (according to Ancestry !) >> Class: RG12; Piece: 1450; Folio: 154 >> George T Rugg 39 >> Martha M Rugg 39 >> Percival E Rugg 15 >> Arthur R Rugg 12 >> Cecil W Rugg 8 >> Martha S Heckaman 66 >> Priscilla Suell 13 >> >> 1901 >> Class: RG13; Piece: 1755; Folio: 110 >> Geo F Bugg 49 >> Martha M Bugg 48 >> Percival E Bugg 25 >> Cecil W Bugg 18 >> Martha Wilden 32 >> >> so something happened between 1901 and 1906 to make him change his >> surname. There's nothing in the london Gazette to say it was an >> official name change...perhaps Beatrice did not think Bugg was 'posh' >> enough. Who could blame her ! > Thanks Ann yep I would hate to be Mrs Bugg, maybe he was dodging being > called up for arms who knows, I will just make a note that he changed > his name and leave it at that his wife is a 3rd cousin twice removed so > only just makes the tree anyway, although I notice an eight cousin has > snuck in, I usually stop at sixth cousins >> >> >> -- >> Anne Chambers >> South Australia >> >> anne dot chambers at bigpond dot com > > Her first name is Beatrice or Bea for short! She could have been Bea Bugg.

On Sunday, July 21, 2013 2:40:52 PM UTC-4, Dexter Kenfield wrote: > William CAMFIELD, son of William and Alice, was christened 6 Sep 1674 in > > Bletchingly, Surrey. His parents, Will. CAMFIELD and Alice MORIDEY, were > > married 7 Dec 1673 in Bletchingly. > > > > William CANFIELD, son of John and Mary, was christened 25 May 1677 in > > Godstone, Surrey. These families almost certainly are related. > > > > Also probably related was William CAMFIELD, son of Robert and Mary, who > > was christened 27 Apr 1684 in Worth, Sussex. > > > > > > What I would like to establish is whether these three all remained in > > England. Or was one of them the William Kenfield (Kentfield, Kinfield, > > Canfield, etc.) who joined the army, was in a regiment stationed in > > Ireland after the Treaty of Ryswick in 1697, and was sent to New York in > > 1700 to join an independent company there? > > > > This may sound familiar to those who have followed these groups for a > > while. I know a lot about William, and the regiments stationed in > > Ireland. But not his birth place, age or parentage. Was he one of these > > three candidates? > > > > Any thoughts, ideas, leads or information? > > > > Dexter Kenfield The first place I would look would be burial registers, to see if you can find any of them dying young. If you can eliminate one or two of them early, that will reduce the work of sorting out what happened to the one(s) left standing.

William CAMFIELD, son of William and Alice, was christened 6 Sep 1674 in Bletchingly, Surrey. His parents, Will. CAMFIELD and Alice MORIDEY, were married 7 Dec 1673 in Bletchingly. William CANFIELD, son of John and Mary, was christened 25 May 1677 in Godstone, Surrey. These families almost certainly are related. Also probably related was William CAMFIELD, son of Robert and Mary, who was christened 27 Apr 1684 in Worth, Sussex. What I would like to establish is whether these three all remained in England. Or was one of them the William Kenfield (Kentfield, Kinfield, Canfield, etc.) who joined the army, was in a regiment stationed in Ireland after the Treaty of Ryswick in 1697, and was sent to New York in 1700 to join an independent company there? This may sound familiar to those who have followed these groups for a while. I know a lot about William, and the regiments stationed in Ireland. But not his birth place, age or parentage. Was he one of these three candidates? Any thoughts, ideas, leads or information? Dexter Kenfield

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 20:45:19 +0100, CWatters <colin.watters@NOturnersoakSPAM.plus.com> wrote: >On 20/07/2013 20:41, CWatters wrote: >> On 18/07/2013 09:49, Steve Hayes wrote: >> >>> So some time between 1861 and 1863, Mary Ann Crisp disaapears, and is >>> replaced >>> by Ann Williams. >>> >>> Did she die? Did she run away? Did her husband desert her? >> >> Ancestry/Freebmd has... >> >> England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 >> about Mary Ann Crisp >> Name: Mary Ann Crisp >> Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1862 >> Registration District: St George Hanover Square >> Inferred County: London >> Volume: 1a >> Page: 203 >> >> > >or perhaps.. > > >England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 >about Mary Ann Crisp >Name: Mary Ann Crisp >Date of Registration: >Oct-Nov-Dec 1862 >Registration District: Pancras >Inferred County: London >Volume: 1b >Page: 121 > >or > >England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 >about Mary Ann Crisp >Name: Mary Ann Crisp >Date of Registration: >Oct-Nov-Dec 1862 >Registration District: Camberwell >Inferred County: London >Volume: 1d >Page: 378 > Thanks for that. First there was nothing, now I'm spoilt for choice! -- Steve Hayes Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/ http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/

On 20/07/2013 20:41, CWatters wrote: > On 18/07/2013 09:49, Steve Hayes wrote: > >> So some time between 1861 and 1863, Mary Ann Crisp disaapears, and is >> replaced >> by Ann Williams. >> >> Did she die? Did she run away? Did her husband desert her? > > Ancestry/Freebmd has... > > England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 > about Mary Ann Crisp > Name: Mary Ann Crisp > Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1862 > Registration District: St George Hanover Square > Inferred County: London > Volume: 1a > Page: 203 > > or perhaps.. England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Mary Ann Crisp Name: Mary Ann Crisp Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1862 Registration District: Pancras Inferred County: London Volume: 1b Page: 121 or England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Mary Ann Crisp Name: Mary Ann Crisp Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1862 Registration District: Camberwell Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 378

On 18/07/2013 09:49, Steve Hayes wrote: > So some time between 1861 and 1863, Mary Ann Crisp disaapears, and is replaced > by Ann Williams. > > Did she die? Did she run away? Did her husband desert her? Ancestry/Freebmd has... England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Mary Ann Crisp Name: Mary Ann Crisp Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1862 Registration District: St George Hanover Square Inferred County: London Volume: 1a Page: 203