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    1. Re: Obtaining good quality prints from archive newspapers from their film viewers.
    2. MB
    3. The 'Looking Feature' has the reporter's name, see if you can find one with a good quality image from the old newspaper and try and contact the reporter. You seem to be in the UK, try ringing the newspaper and ask for them by name. They might not know but be able to pass you on to someone who does. If not you could EMail marked for their attentions or guess their EMail address as fred.bloggs@<newspaper_address> It seems to be a weekly newspaper published on Friday so try at the beginning of the week when they might be not as busy as later.

    08/18/2013 05:59:48
    1. Re: Obtaining good quality prints from archive newspapers from their film viewers.
    2. MB
    3. On 17/08/2013 16:55, Richard van Schaik wrote: > I mostly do it out of hand as most (Dutch) archives won't allow tripods > and do not like monopods either. Fixed setting at ISO 400, no flash on a > very simple 5MP camera gives me mostly very well readable and sharp > pictures. Only wintertime later in the afternoon light might get so low > that it becomes more difficult. I have thought of trying a cheap multi-LED light to illuminate the subject, you can get proper ones for the camere but plenty of cheaper general purpose ones around.

    08/18/2013 05:51:18
    1. Re: Military records...
    2. Ian Goddard
    3. Anne Chambers wrote: > Ancestry have these possibilities (no James Elias or James E Martin) > James Martin Jul-Aug-Sep 1920 Dublin South > James Martin Jul-Aug-Sep 1920 Banbridge > James Martin Jul-Aug-Sep 1920 Newry > James Martin Jul-Aug-Sep 1920 Belfast > James Martin Jan-Feb-Mar 1920 Dingle > James Martin Oct-Nov-Dec 1920 Belfast > James Martin Oct-Nov-Dec 1920 Edenderry > James Martin Apr-May-Jun 1920 Newtownards > James Martin Jul-Aug-Sep 1921 Belfast > James Martin Apr-May-Jun 1921 Dublin South > James Martin Jan-Feb-Mar 1921 Dublin South > James Martin Jan-Feb-Mar 1921 Coleraine > James Martin Jan-Feb-Mar 1921 Belfast > James Martin Jan-Feb-Mar 1921 Mountmellick > James Martin Jan-Feb-Mar 1921 Belfast > James Martin Apr-May-Jun 1921 Downpatrick > > The closest to Fermoy would be Coleraine or Mountmellick and they're not > particularly close Coleraine?? I think you're mixing up Fermoy and Armoy. Probably the best approach is to eliminate areas known to have local Martin families. N Ireland has Martins so I think you could disregard all the entries from Coleraine to Newry. The fact that there are 3 in Dublin tends to suggest that there was also a Martin family there. That leaves just Edenderry, Mountmellick and Dingle. You might be able to eliminate some of those if there are any other Martin marriages (bride or groom) in the late 1910s or early 1920s. -- Ian The Hotmail address is my spam-bin. Real mail address is iang at austonley org uk

    08/18/2013 04:48:46
    1. Re: Obtaining good quality prints from archive newspapers from their film viewers.
    2. Keith Nuttle
    3. On 8/18/2013 6:51 AM, MB wrote: > On 17/08/2013 16:55, Richard van Schaik wrote: >> I mostly do it out of hand as most (Dutch) archives won't allow tripods >> and do not like monopods either. Fixed setting at ISO 400, no flash on a >> very simple 5MP camera gives me mostly very well readable and sharp >> pictures. Only wintertime later in the afternoon light might get so low >> that it becomes more difficult. > > > I have thought of trying a cheap multi-LED light to illuminate the > subject, you can get proper ones for the camere but plenty of cheaper > general purpose ones around. You have to be careful with artificial light. If positioned improperly, you can end up with worse results than if you used no light at all. Improperly placed, the picture can actually be washed out, making it difficult to read.

    08/18/2013 01:02:38
    1. Re: CAN A SHEAF MARRY A SHEAF
    2. Lesley Robertson
    3. wrote in message news:mailman.0.1376568823.29279.genbrit@rootsweb.com... >The White Queen, like the Tudors, is junk history (though the author, >Philippa Gregory,of the former, does appear to know better than the >producers.) Her books are much more accurate than the TV show. Lesley Robertson

    08/17/2013 02:41:30
    1. Re: CAN A SHEAF MARRY A SHEAF
    2. Lesley Robertson
    3. "Graeme Wall" wrote in message news:PU_Ot.58036$hp7.33356@fx13.fr7... On 15/08/2013 01:31, Renia wrote: > > > On 14/08/2013 19:51, polygonum wrote: >> On 14/08/2013 10:19, eve@varneys.org.uk wrote: >>> 84. >>>>>>> >>>>> Assuming the most common change of name upon marriage, this >>>>> would >>>>> occur >>>>> if a man marries his deceased brother's widow. >>>> >>>> Marriage to deceased brother's widow wasn't actually legal in >>>> 1921 >>>> (whereas >>>> marriage to deceased wife's sister had been since 1908). >>>> However, >>>> there >>>> was a lot of it about, and if the authorities didn't spot it, who >>>> cared? >>> If the first husband was a cousin, no problem. >>>>> >>>> EVE >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians >>> Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society >>> >> Was it legal when the future Henry VIII married Catherine of >> Aragon? > > The problem with Henry VIII's marriage to Katharine of Aragaon was > that > she had previously been married to Henry's brother. >Which was the point of the comment. And the argument was an unconsummated marriage was nul and void. Lesley Robertson

    08/17/2013 02:40:03
    1. Re: CAN A SHEAF MARRY A SHEAF
    2. Lesley Robertson
    3. "Phil C." wrote in message news:RrednYuifrILI5HPnZ2dnUVZ8n-dnZ2d@bt.com... If a Sheaf did marry a Sheaf, I expect this would be the hymn sung at the wedding <http://tinyurl.com/ogrbkoe> -- Phil C. I hadn't heard that one. I've been hearing the strains of "Coming though the Rye" since I saw Eve's header... Lesley Robertson

    08/17/2013 02:38:39
    1. Re: Obtaining good quality prints from archive newspapers from their film viewers.
    2. Charles Ellson
    3. On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 14:58:14 -0400, Keith Nuttle <Keith_Nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >On 8/17/2013 1:30 PM, Charles Ellson wrote: >> On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 16:43:54 GMT, myths@ic24.net (cecilia) wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 09:13:59 +0100, Mick <mrcycleuk@yahoo.co.uk> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I have come across a article in our local Isle of Wight weekly paper >>>> the "County Press" >>>> [...] >>>> On them printing it I am very disappointed, it seems to be printed in >>>> "black and White" as opposed to "grayscale" >>>> I appreciate most printouts they do will be text and "black and White" >>>> [...] >>> >>> Even in black and white, choice of output type is not necessarily >>> intuitive. >>> >>> My HP Scanjet 3400C, using HP PrecisionScan LTX, offers >>> Text >>> Text and Image >>> Black and White Drawing >>> Black and White Photograph >>> Color Drawing >>> Normal Colour Photograph >>> Best Colour Photograph >>> >>> I don't think that I have ever found the results of Black and White >>> Drawing satisfactory, even for black and white drawings. >>> >> Can you adjust the black v. white threshold setting ? If it is fixed >> then that often makes 2-colour scanning useless especially if the >> paper is no longer white enough. >> >>> I use a photograph setting. For black and white drawings, I use >>> IrfanView to remove grey background that should be white, by editing >>> the palette. > >The reason a full spectrum color scan is better than black or white or a >two color scan is the fact that inks will bleed into the paper. This >tends to separate the colors making up the ink. (Yes even black ink >will separates into its various components which are different colors. >and yes I realize there is a limited number of colors detected in the >average scanner.) > >By scanning if a full spectrum you get all of the colored compounds >making up the ink. > Attacking from another direction, scanner software can allow scanning with red, green or blue either dropped out or enhanced thus allowing assorted stains, backgrounds or other defects to be lost. This will often assist with GRO documents where faint original details are overpowered by the background security printing. >The same can happen as the components of the ink react with the >components of the paper causing compound of different colors. > >Looking at an old copy, you may not even be aware of the many colors >making up the apparent black ink on the white paper. > >Once you get a full spectrum scan, you can manipulate the image in a >image processing program to get the most readable image.

    08/17/2013 02:38:04
    1. Re: CAN A SHEAF MARRY A SHEAF
    2. Charles Ellson
    3. On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 20:01:43 +0100, polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> wrote: >On 17/08/2013 19:40, Lesley Robertson wrote: >> "Graeme Wall" wrote in message news:PU_Ot.58036$hp7.33356@fx13.fr7... >> >> On 15/08/2013 01:31, Renia wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 14/08/2013 19:51, polygonum wrote: >>>> On 14/08/2013 10:19, eve@varneys.org.uk wrote: >>>>> 84. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Assuming the most common change of name upon marriage, this would >>>>>>> occur >>>>>>> if a man marries his deceased brother's widow. >>>>>> >>>>>> Marriage to deceased brother's widow wasn't actually legal in 1921 >>>>>> (whereas >>>>>> marriage to deceased wife's sister had been since 1908). However, >>>>>> there >>>>>> was a lot of it about, and if the authorities didn't spot it, who >>>>>> cared? >>>>> If the first husband was a cousin, no problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>> EVE >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians >>>>> Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society >>>>> >>>> Was it legal when the future Henry VIII married Catherine of Aragon? >>> >>> The problem with Henry VIII's marriage to Katharine of Aragaon was that >>> she had previously been married to Henry's brother. >> >>> Which was the point of the comment. >> >> And the argument was an unconsummated marriage was nul and void. >> > It made it voidable not void otherwise e.g. many wartime marriages where the groom was only granted enough leave time to get married would have been invalid as would also be a deathbed marriage if the spouse did not recover. > >Though that cannot have made the act of marrying not legal. > Chicken v. Egg. A marriage is void from the time it occurs if there is a legal bar on either or both spouses marrying the other. Some of the reasons (e.g. age, relationship, already married) will themselves involve specific criminal offences but odd occasions due to facts not known at the time IMU would merely void the marriage without it being illegal (i.e. against criminal law).

    08/17/2013 02:28:45
    1. Re: Are there any cremation name and date indexes availabe?
    2. Tickettyboo
    3. On 2013-08-16 15:46:36 +0000, Mick said: > On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 20:46:39 +0100, Tickettyboo > <tickettyboo@mail2oops.com> wrote: > > >> If you think there may be a crematorium record for someone you are >> looking for, have you tried contacting the bereavement services dept of >> IOW to ask about records and access? They may not be aware that there >> are folk like us who would be interested in accessing the records/ book >> of remembrance. >> I find that email is a better option than telephone as it gives the >> recipient a bit more time to deal with a query and quite often they can >> be really helpful. > > I phoned them today, the only email address was to the main council. > > They were very helpful and gave me the date. > They also said I could call there and look at their records myself, so > I shall make a list! > Oh that's good result! -- Tickettyboo

    08/17/2013 02:17:32
    1. Re: CAN A SHEAF MARRY A SHEAF
    2. polygonum
    3. On 17/08/2013 19:40, Lesley Robertson wrote: > "Graeme Wall" wrote in message news:PU_Ot.58036$hp7.33356@fx13.fr7... > > On 15/08/2013 01:31, Renia wrote: >> >> >> On 14/08/2013 19:51, polygonum wrote: >>> On 14/08/2013 10:19, eve@varneys.org.uk wrote: >>>> 84. >>>>>>>> >>>>>> Assuming the most common change of name upon marriage, this would >>>>>> occur >>>>>> if a man marries his deceased brother's widow. >>>>> >>>>> Marriage to deceased brother's widow wasn't actually legal in 1921 >>>>> (whereas >>>>> marriage to deceased wife's sister had been since 1908). However, >>>>> there >>>>> was a lot of it about, and if the authorities didn't spot it, who >>>>> cared? >>>> If the first husband was a cousin, no problem. >>>>>> >>>>> EVE >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians >>>> Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society >>>> >>> Was it legal when the future Henry VIII married Catherine of Aragon? >> >> The problem with Henry VIII's marriage to Katharine of Aragaon was that >> she had previously been married to Henry's brother. > >> Which was the point of the comment. > > And the argument was an unconsummated marriage was nul and void. > Lesley Robertson > Though that cannot have made the act of marrying not legal. -- Rod

    08/17/2013 02:01:43
    1. Re: Order of the Bath - Update - will
    2. Tickettyboo
    3. Everyone gave me so much help with my quest for John Duncan Bertie FULTON, I thought I should update, as I now have a copy of his will. As I expected there was no mention of a wife, I really don't think he ever married (despite the fact that all the evidence points to Dennis Bertram Carew FULTON being his child and the child's mother saying in 1901 that she was married ,with the surname FULTON). Unfortunately the will, rather than clarifying things has chucked another spanner into the works. I have no idea who the main beneficiary may have been. Friend (close or otherwise), relation, whatever. The net estate amounted to £5963 9s 10d. 1. I leave my motor car, or cars, guns, furniture, books & other such personal effects as may be of value to my executor hereinafter appointed to be disposed of as may seem fit to him or retained for his own use. 2. I leave the whole the rest of my property including all securities, stocks, share, cash at bank or other moneys, lease of my property at Longridge Road & any other possessions not falling into the provision of para 1 to Mrs Violet Corcoran of 42 Clanricarde Gardens, Bayswater, London. 3 I appoint as my EXECUTOR Capt. D.G. Conner R.F.A. or if he should not be alive Capt Gerrard R.M.L.I. or similarly Capt Longmore R.N. Dated this third day of September 1912 J.D.B, Fulton Capt W Gerrard Capt R.A.M.C. Central Flying School R.H. Cordrur Capt R.A.M.C Central Flying School Affadavit of due execution filed On the 19th day of February 1916 administration with will was granted to George Bertram Cockburn attorney of Daniel Goodwin Conner So far I have checked the Electoral Roll and a Mrs Violet Corcoran is registered to vote at that address in 1915. The other people registered at No 42 were Caroline KING-SAMPSON (Miss) and Florence DOUGLAS (Miss). Looking at the marriage index, a 'possible' seems to be Violet Emma Falcke who married Victor James Corcoran in 1907. They had a son Gerald Stuart in 1908 and in 1911 Violet and her child were recorded in the house of her parents, Nellie and Isaac Falcke in Barnes, Surrey. There is a divorce record showing that Violet Emma divorced Victor James in 1911 ( grounds were his adultery and cruelty). As far as finding out about the Fulton Block at RAF Cosford, the many enquiries I sent out were mostly replied to (no reply from Defence Infrastructure Organisation which is a bit disappointing). The English Heritage enquiry route eventually resulted in me contacting the author of a report on which the heritage status is based. He kindly replied but his sources were given as 'local knowledge' and info in the Mess. The fact that the block was named for JDBF does seem to be common knowledge as is the bequest by "Lady Fulton' to build it, but for the mo I am back at a standstill to find any info on just who she may have been. -- Tickettyboo

    08/17/2013 01:35:11
    1. Re: Obtaining good quality prints from archive newspapers from their film viewers.
    2. Richard van Schaik
    3. On 17-08-2013 18:49, Evertjan. wrote: > Richard van Schaik wrote on 17 aug 2013 in soc.genealogy.britain: > >> I mostly do it out of hand as most (Dutch) archives won't allow tripods >> and do not like monopods either. Fixed setting at ISO 400, no flash on a >> very simple 5MP camera gives me mostly very well readable and sharp >> pictures. Only wintertime later in the afternoon light might get so low >> that it becomes more difficult. > > A vibration reduction [VR] lens or camera correcting for manual instability > as it corrects for up to 4 stops of shutter speed. > > <http://www.nikon.com/about/technology/rd/core/software/vr_e/> > > Other manifacturers than Nikon could use a different name for the same > technique. Know it and used it a lot on indoor photographing in e.g. churches. Works very well in those cases though you lose some sensitivity of the camera. But that is not possible on my simple camera for archives but on my large mirror-camera giving more noise not liked in archives. The simple one is set with every sound possible switched off. It seems almost they make only cameras which on every picture make a full church organ in sounds and in archives I want to be as silent as possibly can be achieved. Luckily most of this noise can be switched of. Richard -- Richard van Schaik f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@THISgmail.com http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/ The world is one big madhouse and this is main office.

    08/17/2013 12:59:11
    1. Re: Obtaining good quality prints from archive newspapers, from their film viewers
    2. Trevor Rix
    3. I have taken hundreds of photographs with my normal digital camera of microfilm and microfiche screens - highest megapixel setting, macro, no flash - by hand without a tripod with very good results. Some libaries such as the Family History Library in Salt Lake City have do-it-yourself microfilm to USB stick machines that achieve even better quality. Trevor Rix

    08/17/2013 12:53:06
    1. Re: Obtaining good quality prints from archive newspapers from their film viewers.
    2. Evertjan.
    3. Richard van Schaik wrote on 17 aug 2013 in soc.genealogy.britain: > I mostly do it out of hand as most (Dutch) archives won't allow tripods > and do not like monopods either. Fixed setting at ISO 400, no flash on a > very simple 5MP camera gives me mostly very well readable and sharp > pictures. Only wintertime later in the afternoon light might get so low > that it becomes more difficult. A vibration reduction [VR] lens or camera correcting for manual instability as it corrects for up to 4 stops of shutter speed. <http://www.nikon.com/about/technology/rd/core/software/vr_e/> Other manifacturers than Nikon could use a different name for the same technique. -- Evertjan. The Netherlands. (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

    08/17/2013 12:49:15
    1. Re: Obtaining good quality prints from archive newspapers from their film viewers.
    2. Richard van Schaik
    3. On 17-08-2013 18:02, Mick wrote: > On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 08:36:25 -0400, Keith Nuttle > <Keith_Nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> On 8/17/2013 4:13 AM, Mick wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> I have come across a article in our local Isle of Wight weekly paper >>> the "County Press" >>> This is a excellent paper with Birth and death reports each week which >>> I carefully go through and scan in parts. >>> In 1929 my mother was pictured with my eldest sister on her lap, with >>> her four G Grandmothers included in separate photos with them. >>> I thought I might be able to match unknown photos to the G >>> Grandmothers but found no photos that matched, so the article contains >>> the only pictures of them. >> >> Can you see a copy of the actual newspaper page? > > Hi, no it can only be viewed on their viewer machine like a > microfiche viewer, the screen image is not good, I can see if they > will let me take a photo of it. > > There was somebody years ago that had back issues of the paper from > when they had a clear out, but nothing shows up in any search. > > What I do not understand is, they do print from these films to papers > in a "looking back" section but the assistant knew nothing about how > they did it. > > I will try writing to the Editor, there is nothing to loose! > Mick.IOW. From a fiche viewer: http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/scans/IMG_5561.jpg as raw image http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/scans/IMG_5561b.jpg repaired for light spot. Could possibly done even some better by an expert on this (which I'm not). Is not a newspaper but similar type of image (do not look at language, just at how far zooming will go in getting readable text). Camera and settings as described previously. Richard -- Richard van Schaik f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@THISgmail.com http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/ The world is one big madhouse and this is main office.

    08/17/2013 12:41:56
    1. Re: Obtaining good quality prints from archive newspapers from their film viewers.
    2. Charles Ellson
    3. On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 16:43:54 GMT, myths@ic24.net (cecilia) wrote: >On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 09:13:59 +0100, Mick <mrcycleuk@yahoo.co.uk> >wrote: > >>Hi all, >> I have come across a article in our local Isle of Wight weekly paper >>the "County Press" >>[...] >>On them printing it I am very disappointed, it seems to be printed in >>"black and White" as opposed to "grayscale" >>I appreciate most printouts they do will be text and "black and White" >>[...] > >Even in black and white, choice of output type is not necessarily >intuitive. > >My HP Scanjet 3400C, using HP PrecisionScan LTX, offers > Text > Text and Image > Black and White Drawing > Black and White Photograph > Color Drawing > Normal Colour Photograph > Best Colour Photograph > >I don't think that I have ever found the results of Black and White >Drawing satisfactory, even for black and white drawings. > Can you adjust the black v. white threshold setting ? If it is fixed then that often makes 2-colour scanning useless especially if the paper is no longer white enough. >I use a photograph setting. For black and white drawings, I use >IrfanView to remove grey background that should be white, by editing >the palette.

    08/17/2013 12:30:16
    1. Re: Obtaining good quality prints from archive newspapers from their film viewers.
    2. Anne Chambers
    3. Mick wrote: > > Does anyone have any thoughts on how I can get this in a reasonably > quality? > Thanks, > Mick. IOW. > Ask them who their IT person is and get on to him/her direct. Or find out if your local library/archives also has back copies and see if they can do a better job -- Anne Chambers South Australia anne dot chambers at bigpond dot com

    08/17/2013 12:17:33
    1. Re: Obtaining good quality prints from archive newspapers from their film viewers.
    2. Richard van Schaik
    3. On 17-08-2013 17:24, Charles Ellson wrote: > On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 14:10:24 +0100, Graeme Wall > <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >> On 17/08/2013 13:36, Keith Nuttle wrote: >>> On 8/17/2013 4:13 AM, Mick wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> I have come across a article in our local Isle of Wight weekly paper >>>> the "County Press" >>>> This is a excellent paper with Birth and death reports each week which >>>> I carefully go through and scan in parts. >>>> In 1929 my mother was pictured with my eldest sister on her lap, with >>>> her four G Grandmothers included in separate photos with them. >>>> I thought I might be able to match unknown photos to the G >>>> Grandmothers but found no photos that matched, so the article contains >>>> the only pictures of them. >>> >>> Can you see a copy of the actual newspaper page? >>> >>> If so take your digital camera, and photograph the page instead of >>> scanning it. >>> >>> I have found that color scans and photos do a better job than when >>> copying in black and white. >>> >>> If you do not have a tripod or they are not allowed, get as high above >>> the page as possible, adjust the camera neck strap so that you can bring >>> the camera down to the point where the strap is tight and you can get >>> the text you want in the picture frame. Brace yourself and take the >>> picture. >>> >>> I have found you can get readable copies in photographs of 640X480 >>> pixels, obviously the higher the pixel rating the better the copy. >>> >>> >> >> If the ISO is adjustable try setting it higher to give a faster shutter >> speed, this will reduce any camera shake. Take several shots at >> different settings. >> > If you're likely to make a habit of photographing things that require > a steady hand then investing in a monopod might help. IME they're > often allowed where a tripod isn't and when used unextended you can > just prop it on your seat; in that "short" mode they also add a bit > more inertia when left hanging off a camera being used at low speed if > the camera doesn't have its own steadying function. I mostly do it out of hand as most (Dutch) archives won't allow tripods and do not like monopods either. Fixed setting at ISO 400, no flash on a very simple 5MP camera gives me mostly very well readable and sharp pictures. Only wintertime later in the afternoon light might get so low that it becomes more difficult. Richard -- Richard van Schaik f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@THISgmail.com http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/ The world is one big madhouse and this is main office.

    08/17/2013 11:55:50
    1. Re: Obtaining good quality prints from archive newspapers from their film viewers.
    2. Mick
    3. On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 08:36:25 -0400, Keith Nuttle <Keith_Nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >On 8/17/2013 4:13 AM, Mick wrote: >> Hi all, >> I have come across a article in our local Isle of Wight weekly paper >> the "County Press" >> This is a excellent paper with Birth and death reports each week which >> I carefully go through and scan in parts. >> In 1929 my mother was pictured with my eldest sister on her lap, with >> her four G Grandmothers included in separate photos with them. >> I thought I might be able to match unknown photos to the G >> Grandmothers but found no photos that matched, so the article contains >> the only pictures of them. > >Can you see a copy of the actual newspaper page? Hi, no it can only be viewed on their viewer machine like a microfiche viewer, the screen image is not good, I can see if they will let me take a photo of it. There was somebody years ago that had back issues of the paper from when they had a clear out, but nothing shows up in any search. What I do not understand is, they do print from these films to papers in a "looking back" section but the assistant knew nothing about how they did it. I will try writing to the Editor, there is nothing to loose! Mick.IOW. >

    08/17/2013 11:02:04