Tickettyboo wrote on 10 sep 2013 in soc.genealogy.britain: > I can make out the following: > A copy of this register was sent to [*] , when R.H. applied for the ... was sent to London, ... > situation of Surveyor of [*} taxes; it was sent down to me to prove ... of surveyor of assessed taxes; > whether correct, and answer being given in the affirmative it was > returned to the Board, admitted, and the young man obtained the > situation. > > The two words I am unsure about are the place the register was sent to > (I am wavering between Durham and London, though it could be somewhere > totally different !) and the sort of taxes he wished to be a Surveyor > for. <http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/assessment-of-tax.html> -- Evertjan. The Netherlands. (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vhulyfnsgg3z2v5/2jG0Q-Xuj8 or for those with access, the original is on ancestry: http://tinyurl.com/pqfd8ej Its a note in a register of births, Tuthill Baptist Chapel, Newcastle upon Tyne. Robert Hebron was attested to have been born on 21 Dec 1790. I can make out the following: A copy of this register was sent to [*] , when R.H. applied for the situation of Surveyor of [*} taxes; it was sent down to me to prove whether correct, and answer being given in the affirmative it was returned to the Board, admitted, and the young man obtained the situation. The two words I am unsure about are the place the register was sent to (I am wavering between Durham and London, though it could be somewhere totally different !) and the sort of taxes he wished to be a Surveyor for. Any help appreciated. Thanks -- Tickettyboo

-----Original Message----- From: Peter Haizelden Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 8:53 PM Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.britain To: genbrit@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: re birth of an Ernest MacLennan/McLennan On Sunday, September 8, 2013 10:56:20 AM UTC+1, Peter Haizelden wrote: > On Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:56:53 AM UTC+1, Susie Coleman wrote: > > > Would anyone be researching the family of a William MacLennan who I > > believe > > > > > > married an Ada MacLennan(father Hon W.G.S.MacLennan Durban South Africa > > this > > > > > > has not been confirmed but was given to me with any references) but > > have > > > > > > been told that Ada was born Manchester England c1875 according to a > > census > > > > > > entry 1901(can find no entry on BMD for this) and who had a child Ernest > > > > > > MacLennan. I believe I have found Ada and husband William on the 1901 > > > > > > Scottish Census , William aged 29 , a Clothier living at 2 Warden St Off > > > > > > High Street Dingwall, he was born c1872 Kiltearn Rossshire,(whose > > parents > > > > > > were Duncan McLennan and Elizaberh Gerrie), If the Census record is > > correct > > > > > > they at that time had no Children , so am presuming Ernest born sometime > > > > > > after that, looked on 1911 Scottish Census but could find no William > > with a > > > > > > wife Ada, cannot seem to find them anywhere, would appreciate and ideas > > as > > > > > > to how to search for them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hoping someone can help > > > > > > > > > > > > Susie Coleman sbcoleman01@gmail.com > > > > A very quick search reveals ..... > > > > William McLennan and his son Ernest are boarders living at 128 Shrewsbury > Street, Old Trafford, in 1911. Ref: RG14; Piece: 23648. > > > > While Ada McCLennan is a patient in the Whittingham County Lunatic Asylum > at Whittingham, Preston, Lancs, a married woman, aged 37, and born > Chorlton - which is on the outskirts of what was then central Manchester > > Ref: RG14; Piece: 25366; Page: 12. > > > > England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 > > Name: William McLennan > > Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1900 > > Registration District: Fylde > > Inferred County: Lancashire > > Volume Number: 8e > > Page Number: 1183 > > Spouse: Ada Roberts > > > > England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 > > Name: Ada McClennan > > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 > > Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1911 > > Age at Death: 37 > > Registration District: Preston > > Inferred County: Lancashire > > Volume: 8e > > Page: 823 > > > > UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 > > Name: William Ernest B McLennan > > Gender: Male > > Age: 19 > > Birth Date: abt 1903 > > Departure Date: 9 Mar 1922 > > Port of Departure: London, England > > Destination Port: Cape Town, South Africa > > Ship Name: Baradine > > Search Ship Database: Search the 'Baradine' in the 'Passenger Ships and > Images' database > > Shipping Line: P & O Branch Service > > Official Number: 145419 > > Master: Captain T C E Dayas > > Source Citation: Class: BT26. > > **Travelling with his father** > > > > Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 > > Name: William Ernest Byers Mclennan > > Death Place: Western Australia > > Age: 73 > > Father's Name: William > > Registration Place: Perth, Western Australia > > Registration number: 4455/75 > > > > > > Peter Haizelden > > Genealogist and Family Historian > > www.haizelden.co.uk PS BTW no year of death is given in the Australian Death Index. Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Dec 1902 MacLennan William Ernst B Chorlton 8c 800 Peter Haizelden Genealogist and Family Historian www.haizelden.co.uk Refer WA BDM for examples Reg. no. 4455 Year 75 Phil ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENBRIT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would anyone be researching the family of a William MacLennan who I believe married an Ada MacLennan(father Hon W.G.S.MacLennan Durban South Africa this has not been confirmed but was given to me with any references) but have been told that Ada was born Manchester England c1875 according to a census entry 1901(can find no entry on BMD for this) and who had a child Ernest MacLennan. I believe I have found Ada and husband William on the 1901 Scottish Census , William aged 29 , a Clothier living at 2 Warden St Off High Street Dingwall, he was born c1872 Kiltearn Rossshire,(whose parents were Duncan McLennan and Elizaberh Gerrie), If the Census record is correct they at that time had no Children , so am presuming Ernest born sometime after that, looked on 1911 Scottish Census but could find no William with a wife Ada, cannot seem to find them anywhere, would appreciate and ideas as to how to search for them. Hoping someone can help Susie Coleman sbcoleman01@gmail.com

Susie Coleman wrote: > Would anyone be researching the family of a William MacLennan who I believe married an Ada MacLennan(father > Hon W.G.S.MacLennan Durban South Africa this has not been confirmed but was given to me with any references) > but have been told that Ada was born Manchester England c1875 according to a census entry 1901(can find no > entry on BMD for this) and who had a child Ernest MacLennan. I believe I have found Ada and husband William > on the 1901 Scottish Census , William aged 29 , a Clothier living at 2 Warden St Off High Street Dingwall, he > was born c1872 Kiltearn Rossshire,(whose parents were Duncan McLennan and Elizaberh Gerrie), If the Census > record is correct they at that time had no Children , so am presuming Ernest born sometime after that, looked > on 1911 Scottish Census but could find no William with a wife Ada, cannot seem to find them anywhere, would > appreciate and ideas as to how to search for them. > > Hoping someone can help > > Susie Coleman sbcoleman01@gmail.com What do you know for sure ? -- Anne Chambers South Australia anne dot chambers at bigpond dot com

On behalf of Oxfordshire Family History Society, I am delighted to extend congratulations to our President, Hugh Kearsey, on having being awarded by the Society of Genealogists their new "Certificate of Recognition". Hugh is one of four people/institutions to be so recognised - the special Certificate of Recognition has been newly created by the Society of Genealogists to recognise exceptional contributions to genealogy by individuals and institutions worldwide. The citation for Hugh is: "Dr Hugh Kearsey for actively ensuring a wider availability of materials enabling others to pursue family history in Oxfordshire and Gloucestershire." Full details of the award and the recipients are at www.sog.org.uk/news/article/society-of-genealogists-launches-a-new-prestigious-award-for-the-genealogic Hugh joined the Oxfordshire Family History Society in 1985 and was elected to its Committee in 1988, becoming Chairman in 1995. Having moved to Gloucestershire in 1997, in 1999 he relinquished the Chairmanship, and was elected a Vice President. He remained on the Committee until 2009, and was elected President in 2002, a post he currently holds. Hugh is currently our Projects Co-ordinator. His first project began when he became 1851 Census coordinator in July 1988. Of the 1841-1901 census indexes and the transcripts of 1841 and 1851 which are key resources of the Society, much of the transcription, indexing and presentation on fiche and, later, on CD, is attributable to Hugh. Key to the "wider availability" of Oxfordshire information was Hugh's initiative of microfiching the parish register transcripts held at the Centre for Oxfordshire Studies in 1989. These were later scanned and Hugh formatted the scans leading to their publication on CD, with the first such being produced in 2003. Whilst living in the part of Oxfordshire which was formerly North Berkshire, Hugh transcribed some of the parish registers of that area. The OFHS Search Services, enabling county-wide searches of databases such as, initially, the marriage index, were written by Hugh back in 1990. Hugh typed up the marriage index, at that time on fiche and on paper slips, as the first index. Currently, Hugh is busy with extending, both in parishes and in date coverage, the Society's burial index. He's also busy replacing the scanned transcripts on the CDs with digital ones rekeyed by Society volunteers. These are just some of Hugh's contributions to his work extending the availability of records relating to Oxfordshire family history, for which Oxfordshire Family History Society is very grateful, and which make him a worthy recipient of this new award. There are a couple of photos of Hugh included in the post on the OFHS newspage at http://news.ofhs.org.uk/ Congratulations, Hugh! Wendy -- Wendy Archer Chairman, Oxfordshire FHS www.ofhs.org.uk

Thanks for that Chris. Will give it ago. Cheers Di "Chris Dickinson" <chris@dickinson.uk.net> wrote in message news:mailman.0.1378566142.16598.genbrit@rootsweb.com... Di Maloney wrote: > Thanks for those links but the ones to the National Archives give me the > following: > Ordering and viewing options > This record has not been digitised and cannot be downloaded. > Request a quotation for a copy to be digitised or printed and sent to you. > > As this is a distant branch of my family, I have decided to not follow it > further for now and concentrate of those closer. Before abandoning entirely, it might be worth emailing Whitehaven RO to ask them whether they have copies or microfilms of the maps; and, if so, whether these have the detail that you need. If so, then you could try local mailing lists and message boards to see whether anyone would do a look-up for you. Chris

On 8 Sep at 11:53, Peter Haizelden <webmaster@haizelden.co.uk> wrote: <snip for brevity> > BTW no year of death is given in the Australian Death Index. So he probably died after 1982 as they don't display deaths within the last thirty years. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/

On Sunday, September 8, 2013 10:56:20 AM UTC+1, Peter Haizelden wrote: > On Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:56:53 AM UTC+1, Susie Coleman wrote: > > > Would anyone be researching the family of a William MacLennan who I believe > > > > > > married an Ada MacLennan(father Hon W.G.S.MacLennan Durban South Africa this > > > > > > has not been confirmed but was given to me with any references) but have > > > > > > been told that Ada was born Manchester England c1875 according to a census > > > > > > entry 1901(can find no entry on BMD for this) and who had a child Ernest > > > > > > MacLennan. I believe I have found Ada and husband William on the 1901 > > > > > > Scottish Census , William aged 29 , a Clothier living at 2 Warden St Off > > > > > > High Street Dingwall, he was born c1872 Kiltearn Rossshire,(whose parents > > > > > > were Duncan McLennan and Elizaberh Gerrie), If the Census record is correct > > > > > > they at that time had no Children , so am presuming Ernest born sometime > > > > > > after that, looked on 1911 Scottish Census but could find no William with a > > > > > > wife Ada, cannot seem to find them anywhere, would appreciate and ideas as > > > > > > to how to search for them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hoping someone can help > > > > > > > > > > > > Susie Coleman sbcoleman01@gmail.com > > > > A very quick search reveals ..... > > > > William McLennan and his son Ernest are boarders living at 128 Shrewsbury Street, Old Trafford, in 1911. Ref: RG14; Piece: 23648. > > > > While Ada McCLennan is a patient in the Whittingham County Lunatic Asylum at Whittingham, Preston, Lancs, a married woman, aged 37, and born Chorlton - which is on the outskirts of what was then central Manchester > > Ref: RG14; Piece: 25366; Page: 12. > > > > England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 > > Name: William McLennan > > Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1900 > > Registration District: Fylde > > Inferred County: Lancashire > > Volume Number: 8e > > Page Number: 1183 > > Spouse: Ada Roberts > > > > England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 > > Name: Ada McClennan > > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 > > Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1911 > > Age at Death: 37 > > Registration District: Preston > > Inferred County: Lancashire > > Volume: 8e > > Page: 823 > > > > UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 > > Name: William Ernest B McLennan > > Gender: Male > > Age: 19 > > Birth Date: abt 1903 > > Departure Date: 9 Mar 1922 > > Port of Departure: London, England > > Destination Port: Cape Town, South Africa > > Ship Name: Baradine > > Search Ship Database: Search the 'Baradine' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database > > Shipping Line: P & O Branch Service > > Official Number: 145419 > > Master: Captain T C E Dayas > > Source Citation: Class: BT26. > > **Travelling with his father** > > > > Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 > > Name: William Ernest Byers Mclennan > > Death Place: Western Australia > > Age: 73 > > Father's Name: William > > Registration Place: Perth, Western Australia > > Registration number: 4455/75 > > > > > > Peter Haizelden > > Genealogist and Family Historian > > www.haizelden.co.uk PS BTW no year of death is given in the Australian Death Index. Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Dec 1902 MacLennan William Ernst B Chorlton 8c 800 Peter Haizelden Genealogist and Family Historian www.haizelden.co.uk

On Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:56:53 AM UTC+1, Susie Coleman wrote: > Would anyone be researching the family of a William MacLennan who I believe > > married an Ada MacLennan(father Hon W.G.S.MacLennan Durban South Africa this > > has not been confirmed but was given to me with any references) but have > > been told that Ada was born Manchester England c1875 according to a census > > entry 1901(can find no entry on BMD for this) and who had a child Ernest > > MacLennan. I believe I have found Ada and husband William on the 1901 > > Scottish Census , William aged 29 , a Clothier living at 2 Warden St Off > > High Street Dingwall, he was born c1872 Kiltearn Rossshire,(whose parents > > were Duncan McLennan and Elizaberh Gerrie), If the Census record is correct > > they at that time had no Children , so am presuming Ernest born sometime > > after that, looked on 1911 Scottish Census but could find no William with a > > wife Ada, cannot seem to find them anywhere, would appreciate and ideas as > > to how to search for them. > > > > Hoping someone can help > > > > Susie Coleman sbcoleman01@gmail.com A very quick search reveals ..... William McLennan and his son Ernest are boarders living at 128 Shrewsbury Street, Old Trafford, in 1911. Ref: RG14; Piece: 23648. While Ada McCLennan is a patient in the Whittingham County Lunatic Asylum at Whittingham, Preston, Lancs, a married woman, aged 37, and born Chorlton - which is on the outskirts of what was then central Manchester Ref: RG14; Piece: 25366; Page: 12. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: William McLennan Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1900 Registration District: Fylde Inferred County: Lancashire Volume Number: 8e Page Number: 1183 Spouse: Ada Roberts England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Ada McClennan Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1911 Age at Death: 37 Registration District: Preston Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 823 UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 Name: William Ernest B McLennan Gender: Male Age: 19 Birth Date: abt 1903 Departure Date: 9 Mar 1922 Port of Departure: London, England Destination Port: Cape Town, South Africa Ship Name: Baradine Search Ship Database: Search the 'Baradine' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: P & O Branch Service Official Number: 145419 Master: Captain T C E Dayas Source Citation: Class: BT26. **Travelling with his father** Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 Name: William Ernest Byers Mclennan Death Place: Western Australia Age: 73 Father's Name: William Registration Place: Perth, Western Australia Registration number: 4455/75 Peter Haizelden Genealogist and Family Historian www.haizelden.co.uk

In article <l09qpg$97i$1@dont-email.me>, sascar@tpg.com.au says... > > Hello Kate, > > I have spent quite a lot of time searching for a more detailed map and find > the old.maps.co.uk one the best I can get. > > Thanks for your reply. > > Cheers, > Di > > > > > "Kate" <ktms@live.com> wrote in message > news:l08in5$6vk$1@speranza.aioe.org... > > > > > > "Di Maloney" wrote in message news:l06dm9$m1h$1@dont-email.me... > > > > Hi all, > > I am looking for King Street Maryport in the 1850's - I have looked at > > British History OnLine and old.maps.co.uk and can see King Street Maryport > > but it is not detailed enough. > > If anyone knows of a map giving good detail of the streets that show those > > streets or lanes that may have been closed, would you please reply to the > > newsgroup. > > > > Many thanks for any help. > > > > Di > > > > Hi Di > > > > Not sure if this is old enough to help, King Street is near North and Old > > Harbours. > > http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html > > > > Regards, Kate > > (Sydney, Australia) > > I doubt if you are going to find a better map than the 1866-1881 1:500 O.S. one on old-maps.co.uk though you will need to re-focus on different parts of the street and then select the 1:500 map to see the detail. One thing for sure - it was pretty rife with pubs and inns. BobC

On 06/09/2013 01:43, Di Maloney wrote: > If only I could see it, oh well, I can dream,. > > Thanks, > Di A search of the records on the National Archive finds a few hits with potential but hard to know what they look as none are digitised. Not clear if some are the whole town or just some military bit of it.. Reference: MPHH 1/102/1 Maryport. Ordnance Survey six-inch County Series sheet Cumberland XLIV: surveyed 1864; contoured 1866; engraved 1866 and published 31 October 1867. Signed Colonel Edward Belfield, Commanding RE North District, 6 March 1876. MS additions of the 2 Gun Battery and Magazine. scale 1:10560 Reference: MPHH 1/102/2 Ordnance Survey 1:500 sheet Maryport XLIV.8.4: engraved 1863. Signed Colonel W G Hamley, Commanding RE North District, 17 January 1870. MS additions of fortifications. Reference:RG 18/772 Office of Population and Censuses and Surveys: General Register Office: Reference Maps of Registrar's Districts. Maryport. Registrar's district: 574. Sub-district: 4. Description: Maryport. Registrar's district: 574. Sub-district: 4. Date: 1891 Would need to go and get them out.

Di Maloney wrote:   > Thanks for those links but the ones to the National Archives give me the > following: > Ordering and viewing options > This record has not been digitised and cannot be downloaded. > Request a quotation for a copy to be digitised or printed and sent to you. > > As this is a distant branch of my family, I have decided to not follow it > further for now and concentrate of those closer.     Before abandoning entirely, it might be worth emailing Whitehaven RO to ask them whether they have copies or microfilms of the maps; and, if so, whether these have the detail that you need.   If so, then you could try local mailing lists and message boards to see whether anyone would do a look-up for you.     Chris

If only I could see it, oh well, I can dream,. Thanks, Di "CWatters" <colin.watters@NOturnersoakSPAM.plus.com> wrote in message news:j9edndSaJuVvkbTPnZ2dnUVZ8s2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk... > On 04/09/2013 05:41, Di Maloney wrote: >> Hi all, >> I am looking for King Street Maryport in the 1850's - I have looked at >> British History OnLine and old.maps.co.uk and can see King Street >> Maryport >> but it is not detailed enough. >> If anyone knows of a map giving good detail of the streets that show >> those >> streets or lanes that may have been closed, would you please reply to the >> newsgroup. >> >> Many thanks for any help. >> >> Di >> > > Google Books found mention of a map of Maryport being produced on the on > the "10-Feet or 1/500 scale" in 1868. > > Can that really be 1" = 10 ft ??? That would be detailed. Perhaps I have > that wrong. > > Anyway it's mentioned here > > http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=3hkTAAAAYAAJ&dq=Maryport%20map&pg=PA298#v=onepage&q=Maryport%20map&f=false > > Page 8 of "Parliamentary Papers, House of Commons and Command, Volume 36" > by "Great Britain. Parliament. House of Commons" > > No idea where it is now!

Hello Chris, Thanks for those links but the ones to the National Archives give me the following: Ordering and viewing options This record has not been digitised and cannot be downloaded. Request a quotation for a copy to be digitised or printed and sent to you. As this is a distant branch of my family, I have decided to not follow it further for now and concentrate of those closer. Thanks once again, Di "Chris Dickinson" <chris@dickinson.uk.net> wrote in message news:mailman.8.1378396088.26270.genbrit@rootsweb.com... "Di Maloney" apparently wrote: <snip> > I am looking for King Street Maryport in the 1850's - I have looked at > British History OnLine and old.maps.co.uk and can see King Street Maryport > but it is not detailed enough. > If anyone knows of a map giving good detail of the streets that show those > streets or lanes that may have been closed, would you please reply to the > newsgroup. I suspect that you are only going to find a detailed map offline, either at Whitehaven or Carlisle RO or through Maryport planning office. Your best bet may be an 1844 tithe map. This would be available through the record offices above or TNA: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C2299738 However, King Street may not have been in a tithable area. Railway companies produced detailed maps. There is one of a docks extension in 1859, but I don't suppose that would include King Street: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C9091068 This looks possible. Two maps of the town (c1750 and 1860): http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C4048122 OS maps of Maryport: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C9093713 http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C9093712 I trawled quickly through the 1894 Kelly's Directory of Cumberland. http://www.historicaldirectories.org/ This has the following in King Street: a Friends' Meeting House Christ Church (chapel of ease) a large number of retail/commercial premises apparently no private residents. If you are looking for an 1850 retailer, there's a chance the family name may still be there in 1894. Also No, 2, King Street at: http://www.geog.port.ac.uk/webmap/thelakes/html/lgaz/NY03f.htm Chris

CWatters wrote: >[...] >Google Books found mention of a map of Maryport being produced on the >on the "10-Feet or 1/500 scale" in 1868. >Can that really be 1" = 10 ft ??? That would be detailed. Perhaps I have >that wrong. [...] >http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=3hkTAAAAYAAJ&dq=Maryport%20map&pg=PA298#v=onepage&q=Maryport%20map&f=false >Page 8 of "Parliamentary Papers, House of Commons and Command, Volume >36" by "Great Britain. Parliament. House of Commons" It's 10 feet represents 1 mile (or 1"= 500", i.e. 10.56 feet to the mile, a slightly different scale). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordnance_Survey and search page for '10 feet'

On 04/09/2013 05:41, Di Maloney wrote: > Hi all, > I am looking for King Street Maryport in the 1850's - I have looked at > British History OnLine and old.maps.co.uk and can see King Street Maryport > but it is not detailed enough. > If anyone knows of a map giving good detail of the streets that show those > streets or lanes that may have been closed, would you please reply to the > newsgroup. > > Many thanks for any help. > > Di > Google Books found mention of a map of Maryport being produced on the on the "10-Feet or 1/500 scale" in 1868. Can that really be 1" = 10 ft ??? That would be detailed. Perhaps I have that wrong. Anyway it's mentioned here http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=3hkTAAAAYAAJ&dq=Maryport%20map&pg=PA298#v=onepage&q=Maryport%20map&f=false Page 8 of "Parliamentary Papers, House of Commons and Command, Volume 36" by "Great Britain. Parliament. House of Commons" No idea where it is now!

Hello Kate, I have spent quite a lot of time searching for a more detailed map and find the old.maps.co.uk one the best I can get. Thanks for your reply. Cheers, Di "Kate" <ktms@live.com> wrote in message news:l08in5$6vk$1@speranza.aioe.org... > > > "Di Maloney" wrote in message news:l06dm9$m1h$1@dont-email.me... > > Hi all, > I am looking for King Street Maryport in the 1850's - I have looked at > British History OnLine and old.maps.co.uk and can see King Street Maryport > but it is not detailed enough. > If anyone knows of a map giving good detail of the streets that show those > streets or lanes that may have been closed, would you please reply to the > newsgroup. > > Many thanks for any help. > > Di > > Hi Di > > Not sure if this is old enough to help, King Street is near North and Old > Harbours. > http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html > > Regards, Kate > (Sydney, Australia) > > >

"Di Maloney"  apparently wrote: <snip> > I am looking for King Street Maryport in the 1850's - I have looked at > British History OnLine and old.maps.co.uk and can see King Street Maryport > but it is not detailed enough. > If anyone knows of a map giving good detail of the streets that show those > streets or lanes that may have been closed, would you please reply to the > newsgroup. I suspect that you are only going to find a detailed map offline, either at Whitehaven or Carlisle RO or through Maryport planning office. Your best bet may be an 1844 tithe map. This would be available through the record offices above or TNA: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C2299738 However, King Street may not have been in a tithable area. Railway companies produced detailed maps. There is one of a docks extension in 1859, but I don't suppose that would include King Street: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C9091068 This looks possible. Two maps of the town (c1750 and 1860): http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C4048122 OS maps of Maryport: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C9093713 http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C9093712 I trawled quickly through the 1894 Kelly's Directory of Cumberland. http://www.historicaldirectories.org/ This has the following in King Street: a Friends' Meeting House Christ Church (chapel of ease) a large number of retail/commercial premises apparently no private residents. If you are looking for an 1850 retailer, there's a chance the family name may still be there in 1894. Also No, 2, King Street at: http://www.geog.port.ac.uk/webmap/thelakes/html/lgaz/NY03f.htm Chris

On 4 Sep at 14:48, Chris Dickinson <chris@dickinson.uk.net> wrote: > Steve Hayes wrote: > > > > ‘Kindred Britain’ maps 30,000 people in British history > > > A fantastic new visualisation work has been released today titled > > ‘Kindred Britain‘. Created by Nicholas Jenkins and Elijah Meeks of > > Stanford University in partnership with Scott Murray (amongst > > others) the project offers a deep, exploratory interface into a > > network of nearly 30,000 key figures in British culture connected > > through ‘family relationships of blood, marriage, or affiliation’. > > As the designers describe, ‘it is a vision of the nation’s history > > as a giant family affair’. > > > http://www.visualisingdata.com/index.php/2013/08/kindred-britain-maps-30000-people-in-british-history/ > > > http://kindred.stanford.edu/# > > <snip> > > Thanks for posting this, Steve. It looks very interesting, if slightly > incomprehensible at first glance. Yes, it is a very interesting new format for displaying a genealogical database. I wonder if the main program/system is available, so that we could try inserting our own data? Then, it would be sensible if it accepted a limited range of GEDCOM fields, so that we could easily transfer our own data in. Can it? I could find no means of answering my questions on the Stanford University site. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/