Dear list. I am new to the list, I think I may have come in a litlle to late however, I thought I would say that, Australia has 40.000 years of history. Only 213 years of white Australian history , which many of our ancestors gave us the background, of a British History. January 1st we celebrated 100 years of a nation joined, and we had a wonderful time enjoying what our forefathers built for us white Australians. Our white history is now only two hundred and thirteen years old, many mistakes and many a gain. Today we celebrated federation, (all states becoming one nation) with Aboriginal Australia, 40.000 years old, leading our march through Sydney. We are progressing, and I hope it continues. Rhonda Newell. Australia.

GENBRIT has a long history at RootsWeb, having been gatewayed to soc.gen.brit. for most of its existence. Sadly, however, RootsWeb is being closed down by Ancestry today. Many county lists at RootsWeb have been succeeded by equivalent groups at groups.io. If you wish to join any of these, searching for combinations of the words genealogy and RootsWeb as well as the area/county name will probably reveal the new group(s), if any. Thank you to all those list members who have contributed to the helpfulness and friendliness of GENBRIT over the years! Wendy List owner, GENBRIT@rootsweb.com

Is the 1881 census CD from the LDS complete and indexed for all of UK? If it is easily searched, could someone who has access to it tell me if there is an entry for the family of Alexander Garden and his wife Anna (formerly Haughton) who were living at 3 Page St. in the Sub-district of Islington in 1883? Thank you, Eric Dubois, Professor School of Information Technology and Engineering (SITE) University of Ottawa 161 Louis Pasteur, P.O.Box 450, Stn. A, Ottawa, Ontario, K1N 6N5 Canada <edubois@uottawa.ca> Tel: +1-613-562-5800 X 6400 Fax: +1-613-562-5175

I have just noticed that the Archives are back. This is just a little test to see whether my post gets relayed to me - something that wasn't happening on the last incarnation. Chris

The Guild of One-Name Studies has been running for a while a "persons of interest" series, whereby, on the second and fourth Mondays of each month, a short story provided by a member about a person of interest in their one-name study is published on the Guild website. The latest story is of: William Albert PULLUM, a weight-lifting champion in the 1900s, by member Nikki Brown. He even published "Weight Lifting made Easy and Interesting”. https://one-name.org/persons-of-interest-william-albert-pullum/ Members are all encouraged to submit a story (200-300 words or a bit longer if need be) about a person of interest in their own one-name study. It's good publicity if you're doing a one-name study, and therefore a good reason to join the Guild of One-Name Studies. Details of the Guild, and reasons for joining, are at https://one-name.org/about-the-guild/ Wendy for the Guild Marketing Action Team

A recent blog by the British Newspaper Archive gives details of the various newspapers it has scanned specifically devoted to crime & punishment. See https://blog.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/2018/05/10/crime-court-and-police-newspapers/ The various papers scanned so far include: Title Years County Courts Chronicle 1847-1870, 1885-1896 Illustrated Police Budget 1899 Illustrated Police News 1867-1874, 1876-1890, 1892-1938 Police Gazette 1773-1776, 1829, 1858, 1880, 1898, 1916-1918 Poor Law Unions’ Gazette 1857-1865, 1868-1903 Wendy

-- Anne Mitchell <http://www.clustergenealogy.com> http://clustergenealogy.com <http://www.clustergenealogy.com>

Posted for Tessa Keough, member of the Guild of One-Name Studies Marketing Action Team: The recording from Tuesday's webinar - Sharing the Joy - is available at the Guild of One-Name Studies website. Bob Cumberbatch and Paul Howes shared how they publicize their studies. Lots of suggestions and discussion about how they get the word out and encourage others to share information and join in their studies. The recording is available to everyone for the next 7 days (then it goes behind the member paywall). https://one-name.org/sharing-the-joy-recording-available/ Wendy

[with apologies to existing soc.genealogy.britain users here] [Now that there is no longer a gateway between this list and soc.genealogy.britain, and in order to encourage posting volumes to the list, I'm reposting here some enquiries that I've made recently to soc.genealogy.britain] " I've just been looking at some death certificates that maybe I haven't looked at for 20 years, and a point has struck me that I haven't considered properly. The death certificate (1941) of my great-grandmother gives her son, my grandfather, as the informant (without any mention of being 'Present at Death' - she was in a care home aged 93). The death certificate of her husband (1901) gives his eldest son as an informant and 'Present at the Death'. The death certificate (1865) of the father of the 1901 death gives him as the informant and 'Present at the Death'. Clearly, those 'Present at the Death' were so. But can one assume that any informant, not such mentioned, wasn't? " Chris

[with apologies to existing soc.genealogy.britain users here] [Now that there is no longer a gateway between this list and soc.genealogy.britain, and in order to encourage posting volumes to the list, I'm reposting here some enquiries that I've made recently to soc.genealogy.britain] " I have just read my local council's guidance about memorial stones, which states: "It is advisable to wait at least 9 months after a burial before organising a memorial stone to allow the grave to settle". Now, this isn't relevant to me personally (for both my parents, the memorial is a rose bush with a plaque); but it has set me to thinking about the logistics and hence the accuracy of stone inscriptions. We have probably all encountered stone memorials that are inaccurate - and I've always assumed that this was mostly about the relatives not knowing, or the mason misunderstanding, the details. But I've never thought before about the practical need to allow the grave to settle. So what happened here exactly? Did the mason create the stone immediately, or wait until probate had been granted and he could be paid or wait until the ground had settled (by which time there was a fair chance that details had been forgotten). And what happened when additional family were buried? Was the original stone moved, inscribed, and then a wait for for a few months before the grave was stable again? " Chris

Forwarded with Matthew's permission from the ARCHIVES-NRA list. Wendy -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: NEW RVS NARRATIVE REPORTS ONLINE Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 10:31:41 +0000 From: Matthew McMurray <Matthew.McMurray@ROYALVOLUNTARYSERVICE.ORG.UK> Reply-To: Matthew McMurray <Matthew.McMurray@ROYALVOLUNTARYSERVICE.ORG.UK> To: ARCHIVES-NRA@JISCMAIL.AC.UK In time for our 80th Birthday tomorrow Royal Voluntary Service is proud to say that all of our wartime Narrative Reports 1938-1945 are now available to view online for FREE from our online catalogue. You can find it at www.royalvoluntaryservice.org.uk/archiveonline <http://www.royalvoluntaryservice.org.uk/archiveonline> The first phase of these, 1938-1942, went online in July last year and this new set availabe from today covers the remaining wartime period 1943-1945. This has been a monumental effort, entirely funded through Crowdfunding and associated donations, and represent reports for 7,602 centres covering 85,977 pages from 1938-1945 telling the unsung work of the million women of the WVS. These are an unparallelled resource for Women's history in the 20th century and we are very proud to be able to share them with everyone. Best wishes Matthew Matthew McMurray BA (Hons) MA MLitt Archivist Royal Voluntary Service Archive & Heritage Collection Unit 1A Bath Road Business Centre Bath Road Devizes SN10 1XA Tel 01380 730211 Mobile 07714 898569 www.royalvoluntaryservice.org.uk/our-history twitter: @rvsarchives For information about joining, leaving and suspending mail (eg during a holiday) see the list website at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=archives-nra

The Guild of One-Name Studies has been hosting and recording monthly webinars since the beginning of this year. This month's is scheduled for this evening - 7:00 pm GMT. You need to register for it at http://one-name.org/2018-webinar-series-no-5/ The subject is "Using DNA with Your Study", with Maurice Gleeson The Guild website says: "This is the fifth webinar in the Guild’s 2018 ten-part webinar series. Using DNA with your Study with Maurice Gleeson focuses on a Y-DNA Project and how it can be a very useful addition to a One-Name Study or Surname research. Maurice’s substantial handout is only going to be available to Guild members and those that attend the webinar live. Come and learn how a Y-DNA Project can add an extra dimension to any One-Name Study. If you're unable to be "present" at the live webinar, the recording thereof will be available in a few days time. Future webinars are listed at http://one-name.org/guild-webinar-series-2018/ Wendy on behalf of the Guild of One-Name Studies Marketing Action Team www.one-name.org (including Freephone numbers) guild@one-name.org

The Guild of One-Name Studies has been hosting and recording monthly webinars since the beginning of the year. The most recent is "Now What? Do Something with Your Data" by Howard Mathieson. From http://one-name.org/2018-webinar-series-no-4/ : "Howard Mathieson focuses on the development of surnames in the British Isles. Successive waves of Britons, Angles, Saxons, and Danes left their imprint on the landscape of Britain in the form of a rich tapestry of place names. These place names in turn laid the foundation for tens of thousands of English surnames. Howard’s presentation will demonstrate the approach used by surname researchers to trace a surname to its origin. Attention will then focus on the underlying regional character of the English landscape, examining the pattern of Saxon and Scandinavian place names and the distinctive surnames which resulted. Howard will include surname case studies that reflect the regional geography of England." The webinar itself has actually happened, but the recording is available on the Guild YouTube channel for a few days from now at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvAe1lukL7Q There is also a link on the page to an excellent selection of books complementary to Howard's talk. The Guild webinar recordings are available to everyone for a week or so - they are then available in the Guild members' area of the Guild website only. I understand this recording will be available for a few days yet. Future webinars are listed at http://one-name.org/guild-webinar-series-2018/ Wendy on behalf of the Guild of One-Name Studies Marketing Action Team www.one-name.org (including Freephone numbers) guild@one-name.org

Good news - the GENBRIT list is back in use! A new system has been put in place at RootsWeb - see http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ When logged in, you can change your subscription address or subscription status for your various lists. This new page is also useful for finding RootsWeb lists and archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ However, there are still a few teething troubles which are being addressed at RootsWeb. Do post to the list about your research queries and tell the list about news which might be of interest. Wendy List admin, GENBRIT RootsWeb mailing list

Charles Leggott married Mary Ann Dunhill 23 Dec 1876 at Drax, Yorkshire, they then disappeared. Nothing too unusual about this except that the names were reasonably uncommon. With the new GRO index on line, I decided to look for children :- J1877 Howden - Lucy Ann M1879 Prestwich - William D1881 Prestwich - Charles M1884 West Derby - Joseph died D1886 West Derby J1886 West Derby - Edith Ellen died S1889 West Derby Looking for Lucy for 1881 Census as born in Yorkshire and living in Lancashire, I obtained 92 possibilities. Looking through the list I found a Lucy Dunhill and thus the family of four that I was looking for. I have never seen a family adopt the surname of the wife before. I cannot find the family in subsequent censuses. Maybe that they did not want to be found!

Enjoyed your web - thank you. Hate to think how many hours... :) Regards, Veronica -----Original Message----- From: GENBRIT [mailto:genbrit-bounces+mordensurrey=gmail.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Cross Sent: Monday, 22 January, 2018 12:53 AM To: genbrit@rootsweb.com Subject: British Line of Succession I've built a web site that might be of interest to people on this mailing list. It tracks the British line of succession through time. Currently, it goes back to the start of Edward VII's reign, but I eventually plan to go back as far as the Act of Succession. The site is at https://lineofsuccession.co.uk/. Any comments, suggestions or corrections are welcome. Thanks, Dave... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENBRIT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com

I've built a web site that might be of interest to people on this mailing list. It tracks the British line of succession through time. Currently, it goes back to the start of Edward VII's reign, but I eventually plan to go back as far as the Act of Succession. The site is at https://lineofsuccession.co.uk/. Any comments, suggestions or corrections are welcome. Thanks, Dave...

The next FIBIS residential conference celebrates the society’s 20th birthday and will run from Friday 28th to Sunday 30th September at the Hawkwell House Hotel in Iffley, Oxford. We have lined up speakers on a range of topics which we hope will fill in some gaps and encourage delegates to pursue their own investigations. There will be opportunities over the weekend to consult FIBIS and other experts on individual research problems, and also to view examples of past FIBIS transcriptions and research results and to browse a gallery of photographs. There will be some tutorials; such as research or practical advice on the use of the FIBIS and other websites, and in contributing to FIBIS database, Wiki and Gallery We will also have space for discussion groups on specific topics of common interest suggested by delegates and run by themselves. And of course there will be time to network with fellow delegates. TIMINGS The event will start at 13.00 on Friday with an open forum session and other tutorial or discussion opportunities. Formal lectures will begin at 14.30. We will have afternoon lectures and one shorter after-dinner lecture. There will be a full day of talks on Saturday, including an after-dinner speaker, and two further talks plus a plenary session on Sunday morning. The conference will close at 13.00 on Sunday. CONFERENCE SPEAKERS: Richard Morgan will host the open forum session, dealing with questions from delegates. He has long been fascinated by British India and has edited The Diary of an Indian Cavalry Officer (Pagoda Tree Press 2003) and written FIBIS publications Fact Files No 3 Indian Directories, No 5 Graves in India and Research Guide No 3 British Ships in Indian Waters 2nd edn 2017, as well as articles on British India for the FIBIS Journal, Chowkidarand Family Tree. FIBIS President Peter Bailey will deliver the introductory lecture of the conference. Trustee since 1999, Chairman for many years and always enthusiastic promoter of FIBIS, Peter has helped to build FIBIS into the successful family history society that it is today, having worked in every role except treasurer! He has delivered many lectures over the years and produced two of the four FIBIS research guides. He began his own research journey by investigating the activities of eight direct ancestors who lived and served in the military in India and will share some of the excitement of discovery. Geraldine Charles, FIBIS founder trustee, experienced researcher and speaker at family history events: To mark 100 years since the end of WWI, Geraldine will report on her most recent project to identify Anglo-Indian and European soldiers recruited in India to fight in WWI. Like her earlier work locating the descendants of medal recipients, it honours the contribution of Indians, Anglo-Indians and Europeans based in India at that time. Major General (Retired) J C Lawrence CBE, military historian, author and lecturer on strategy at the Royal College of Defence Studies, will speak about Britain’s Gurkhas, from their initial recruitment in 1815 through to their service in today’s armed forces. He published The Gurkhas: 200 years of service to the Crown in 2015 and is currently working on a commemorative history of The Royal Gurkha Rifles (RGR) for publication in 2019. The locations of his military career provide a colourful backdrop for his works of adventure fiction which, perhaps not surprisingly, also include Gurkhas! You can find out more at: www.craiglawrencebooks.co.uk. Debbie Kennett is an Honorary Research Associate at University College London. She is a regular speaker on DNA and surnames at both national and international events. She is the author of two books, DNA and Social Networking and The Surnames Handbook, and has written many articles about DNA for family history magazines. She will talk about finding family with DNA and using DNA as a tool in family history research. Gill Blanchard, member of AGRA, is an historian and full-time researcher, tutor, lecturer and author. She is an expert on family, house and local history, and has been a professional family history researcher since 1992. She derives great enjoyment from passing on her knowledge to other people and does so in an accessible way. Her talk will give us a glimpse of the work that goes on behind the scenes at ‘Who do you think you are?’ Subject to demand, she may also deliver a writing tutorial. Jenny Mallin will talk about the story behind her prize-winning cookery book ‘Grandmother’s Legacy’. So much more than just a cookery book, it shares her moving experience of connecting with earlier generations of her own family by researching and recreating the meals that they enjoyed. The names, ingredients, and even the spelling will strike a chord with many of her listeners. Dr Philip Woods is a lecturer in history at the New York University in London whose specialisms include British Imperial and Colonial History. He has a particular interest in the role of war correspondents, newsreel and newspaper reports and will offer a view of Independence and Partition according to the visual record provided by British newsreels and international photographers. Jean Ellis’s family, like so many others, left their lives and homes in Burma when the Japanese invaded during WW2. In her book ‘Goodbye Burma’ she uses family documents, personal anecdote and detailed research to reimagine the experience of leaving at this chaotic and dramatic moment in history, the approaching end of empire. She follows individual family members as they ultimately risk a long and arduous journey to reach the safety of India. Saturday’s after-dinner speaker will be announced at a later date. PRIZE DRAW: Upgrade to superior room: The hotel has some superior rooms and FIBIS are offering a free upgrade as a prize to 5 delegates. Names will be drawn from bookings made during the early bird period, up to 31st March 2018. For more information visit the FIBIS website at www.fibis.org Regards Valmay Young Website and Social Media Manager Families in British India Society Website: www.fibis.org "Your brick wall is in India!"

From: https://blog.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/2017/12/18/newspapers-added-18-dec-2017/ ... this week we reached twenty-three million pages in The Archive, having added 285,684 pages in the past two weeks. Added in December: Title Years added Aberdeen Press and Journal 1979 Ayr Advertiser, or, West Country Journal 1881-1882, 1885-1886, 1889-1890 Bolton Evening News 1900 Bournemouth Daily Echo 1909-1910 Cambridge Independent Press 1874 Coventry Evening Telegraph 1897, 1905, 1907, 1922-1923, 1925, 1927, 1930, 1932, 1936-1938, 1946-1954, 1960-1970 Coventry Herald 1808, 1820, 1906, 1908, 1914, 1917-1938 Hereford Journal 1877-1878, 1889, 1891, 1893, 1900, 1902-1903, 1905, 1907 Merthyr Times, and Dowlais Times, and Aberdare Echo 1898 Penarth Chronicle and Cogan Echo 1889 Shetland Times 1908-1910 South Wales Daily News 1903-1905 Sports Argus 1897-1911, 1922-1938, 1946-1957, 1959-1963, 1965-1979 Waterford Chronicle 1871-1875, 1889 By clicking on each of these papers on the webpage, you'll be taken to a page detailing that paper's scanned date coverage. Wendy

In message <fa6hdjF3m3nU1@mid.individual.net>, Steven Gibbs <stevenng5@sgibbs1.freeserve.co.uk> writes: >On 22/12/2017 23:38, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: >>> >> I've generally assumed that too - but would be interested to know if >> anyone's seen any evidence to counter the assumption that the abode >> field applies to both parents. (Obviously in most cases they _would_ >> abide together, but I could imagine situations where this might not be >> so - especially if [but not only this case) it's an illegitimate birth.) >> I'm not sure what form the evidence would take - two different entries >> in the abode column perhaps? > >I've seen two addresses in the Residence field in C of E baptisms on Thanks for the confirmation. >quite a few occasions. This is usually where the child is illegitimate >with the father named. There might also be two occupations. I think I >remember having seen two addresses for legitimate children where the >father was away, but I can't be sure. That was the other reason I'd thought of. > I'm travelling this morning so won't have the time to follow this up. (Not a-fathering, presumably!) > >Steven So we continue with the _assumption_ that, excepting where indicated as illegitimate or something else is written in, "Abode" means both parents. (Or at least means father with mother not being of any import - this isn't me endorsing that view, only taking how people thought in those days.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf I admire him for the constancy of his curiosity, his effortless sense of authority and his ability to deliver good science without gimmicks. - Michael Palin on Sir David Attenborough, RT 2016/5/7-13