All Here's the repeat attempt at getting a chink in a long term brick wall: My maternal grandmother, Lillian CLARE (née JENKINS) has long been a wall in my research, partly for reasons I needn't go into here. Essentially, I can't find her birth in the NSW indexes. I've looked up all the various relevant JENKINS, and checked the historical electoral rolls, but can't quite get a match (I know that she is the Lillian Jennifer CLARE in the 1949 (West Brunswick) and 1963 (South Melbourne) Melbourne Electoral Roll). With that in mind, I thought I would just lay out what I do know in case anyone has access to some local records or the local church records (these were being discussed at the time of my original post), has actually worked on this family, or can see something I've missed. I have a fairly consistent lot of other information. So here's what I know: I'm looking for further information on Lillian (prob Jennifer) JENKINS; born Deniliquin, NSW, 1898 ish. Father: possibly William Edward JENKINS (who was described as deceased by the time of her marriage in 1941 to Herbert CLARE (who isn't my grandfather) in Melbourne). Mother: Annie or Agnes WILLIAMS. She was living in Melbourne in the 1920s. She died as Lillian CLARE in 1965 at Woodend, Victoria, although had apparently been usually living in Williamstown, Melbourne. She's described as divorced at the time of her death, and I have no memory of Bert CLARE at all (so I imagine the divorce happened in the early 1950s). I don't know if it helps, but she spent some time in Nauru in the early 1950s. So there we are; it would be great if someone could take this further for me. Best Lloyd